[TadEareckson]

Thanks zillions. I've proof- and re-read that document thousands of times and I'd have NEVER caught that one. You tend to see what you MEANT TO write rather than what you ACTUALLY wrote.

Carabiner. It actually SHOULD BE - and, in English, sometimes is - karabiner 'cause that's what the German from which it's taken is but I can only go against the grain on so much.

A carabineer would be a person who uses a carabiner.

Very fine effort Tad.

Thanks. Wouldn't it have been nice if USHGA had just READ and adopted this document instead of going into rabid WE-NEED-TO-SILENCE-AND-DESTROY-THIS-GUY-NOW mode?

[Nobody]

Very fine effort Tad.

Indeed !

[Bob Kuczewski]

Wouldn't it have been nice if USHGA had just READ and adopted this document instead of going into rabid WE-NEED-TO-SILENCE-AND-DESTROY-THIS-GUY-NOW mode?

Please remind us of which USHPA Director suggested that they NOT go into "rabid WE-NEED-TO-SILENCE-AND-DESTROY-THIS-GUY-NOW mode"?

Which USHPA Director suggested that USHPA should work to understand your concerns rather than calling their lawyer?

Do you recall which USHPA Director that might have been?

     ( Hint: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=463 )

It's interesting to go back and read even just the first page of that topic. Tad's very first post was full of profanity, and my very first response was a request to clean it up a bit. You could almost see the future by reading just that one page.

[TadEareckson]

Do you recall which USHPA Director that might have been?

Yes.

And DID USHPA work to understand my concerns rather than calling their lawyer?

bobk - 2010/05/30

As a Board member I argued against that approach because I felt that it would be better to open lines of communication rather than shut them with legal threats. Fortunately, cooler heads prevailed and some of the Directors who knew him were called in to help.

And DID some of the Directors who knew him help?

As far as I know, things were resolved peacefully without further escalation.

And WERE things resolved peacefully without further escalation? Or was my flying career effectively ended while the corrupt scumbags who control this sport became even more firmly entrenched and less accountable?

Identity Protected USHGA Director - 2009

Perhaps a strongly worded letter from Tim will do the trick. We can't force Tad to work within the USHPA framework but we can make it unpleasant and expensive for him if he chooses to makes derogatory and false statements about USHPA to the FAA he can't back up.

And to whose advantage did it work that Tad was NOT sent a strongly worded letter from Tim?

I'm sorry, but I don't have time to read everything that everyone asks me to read.

And how much more effectively has the US Hawks Dicta- - Director been at looking into and addressing the issues of Tad's - and Zack's - concerns than ANYONE at USHGA?

It's interesting to go back and read even just the first page of that topic. Tad's very first post was full of profanity, and my very first response was a request to clean it up a bit. You could almost see the future by reading just that one page.

Yep, Bob...

My good friends Bob Dunn and Dave Butz both launched unhooked. Bob held on to his base tube all the way down from Plowshare. The impact split his skull and he suffered terribly until he died during the night, alone.

This profanity issue is a HUGE problem!!! Something we REALLY need to get under control before someone is SERIOUSLY INJURED - again.

[Bob Kuczewski]

Tad, you seemed to have skipped my first two questions:

Wouldn't it have been nice if USHGA had just READ and adopted this document instead of going into rabid WE-NEED-TO-SILENCE-AND-DESTROY-THIS-GUY-NOW mode?

Please remind us of which USHPA Director suggested that they NOT go into "rabid WE-NEED-TO-SILENCE-AND-DESTROY-THIS-GUY-NOW mode"?

Which USHPA Director suggested that USHPA should work to understand your concerns rather than calling their lawyer?

I think the answers are about 3 letters each, so maybe you could spare a few keystrokes to let us all know. Thanks.

As for the profanity, it furthers your hostility ... but not your arguments. Your hostility has undermined you at every turn, but you can't see it. I'm trying to help you, and if you read the first page of the topic I quoted, you should know that. But you can't see that either. All you can see are the people who you feel have disrespected you, and all you want to do is seek vengeance.

[TadEareckson]

I think the answers are about 3 letters each, so maybe you could spare a few keystrokes to let us all know.

I think it would be so much more entertaining for "us all" if they used the clues provided so far and deciphered things for themselves.

And then we'll let them figure out how much more positive the effect of those two actions was than that of permitting Germany annexation of the Sudetenland in 1938.

As for the profanity, it furthers your hostility ... but not your arguments.

My "arguments"? Like "A weak link on one end of a bridle is not the same as a weak link on one end of a towline."? In my opinion anyway.

Well, now that you mention it, I WAS making much better headway before by being polite, treating those with differing OPINIONS with respect, and always looking to the GOOD sides of people's characters. I'll try giving that another go for another twenty years and get back to you.

...and if you read the first page of the topic I quoted...

Yeah, let's take a look at THIS from the first page of the topic you quoted:

Bob Kuczewski - 2009/05/11

Third, I'm not an expert in towing, but I consulted someone who knows the topic pretty well. His comment was that while it might be good for USHPA to make recommendations in this area, there is still plenty of room for innovation. For that reason, he doesn't think USHPA should mandate any kind of obligatory system that would stifle that innovation - whether Mr. Eareckson's or any other. I have very little background in towing, so I'm just passing this perspective on for your general consideration.

But you can't see that either.

Yeah, there's TONS of stuff I can't see. I can't see where this identity-protected half-witted duplicitous USHGA fraud found in either my SOPs or Guidelines revisions a punctuation mark's worth of a hint that I was MANDATING any kind of OBLIGATORY SYSTEM - Mr. Eareckson's or any other.

Did YOU see that somewhere? Oh, right...

I'm sorry, but I don't have time to read everything that everyone asks me to read.

Nobody has any time to READ anything. Especially when it's so much more convenient to consult an EXPERT and get his OPINION.

All you can see are the people who YOU feel have disrespected you, and all you want to do is seek vengeance.

Nah, seeking vengeance against the good and decent people in hang gliding who - because of my paranoid delusions - I wrongly feel have disrespected and personally slighted me and buried all my posts in The Free Speech Zone is just something I do to amuse myself while I'm waiting for questions and feedback from people like Zack, Antoine, and Nobody who want to get better equipment into the air.

I'm trying to help you...

Thanks, but it should be pretty obvious by now that that's simply not a realistic goal. Several of the best psychiatrists in the country have given up in total frustration and recommended that I be permanently walled off in a six by eight steel reinforced concrete cell with the smallest possible slot for a feeding once a day or so.

So if you wanna help someone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR_4jKLqrus

Work with Sam, Pilgrim, and any other non sociopathic US Hawks person you can find to remove all hints of enforceable regulation from aerotowing so that innovation will flower and people will finally be free to start working on some kind of good engineering solutions to this thirty year old problem.

[Bob Kuczewski]

I'm trying to help you...

Thanks, but it should be pretty obvious by now that that's simply not a realistic goal. Several of the best psychiatrists in the country have given up in total frustration and recommended that I be permanently walled off in a six by eight steel reinforced concrete cell with the smallest possible slot for a feeding once a day or so.

Thanks for confirming a layman's suspicions with the recommendations of several of the best professionals in the country.

It looks like Sam was right!!   

[TadEareckson]

I didn't say they were the best PROFESSIONALS. I said they were the best PSYCHIATRISTS. And in about five or ten minutes pretty much anyone can make a really top notch psychiatrist from what comes out of the back end of a half decent high school physics teacher after a bad meal.

So you might wanna be a little more careful about who you use to confirm your suspicions. I tend stay in line with Sir Isaac but that involves a bit of time and thinking and it seems to me you you prefer to just go with the consensus of whatever group of experts you can cherry pick to justify your assumptions and courses of action.

P.S. That little Rolling On The Floor guy is starting to look a bit tired to me. You might wanna think about giving him a rest for a post or two.

[Bob Kuczewski]

P.S. That little Rolling On The Floor guy is starting to look a bit tired to me. You might wanna think about giving him a rest for a post or two.

That was his first appearance on this page. In fact, it was his first appearance in this entire topic.

Perception is everything ... everything but truth.

Sam has been right, and that bugs the heck out of you. I believe that's tainted your perception on many things.

[TadEareckson]

That was his first appearance on this page. In fact, it was his first appearance in this entire topic.

Right on both counts. That little guy STILL looks tired to me.

bobk - 2011/10/27

The "s" word is not being used (in most cases) to convey the meaning of excrement. It's being used to be offensive. So if someone is using a word to be offensive, then why are they surprised when people are offended?

Isn't that EXACTLY what these little yellow icons and animations are meant to do? Offend people? I'd much rather have Peter calling me a fuckin' coward and an asswipe. Whole lot more up front and less irritating.

Perception is everything ... everything but truth.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aerotowrelease/6116588737/

When you get a dozen or so disinterested persons reporting the needle pointing at the same number the perception becomes as close to truth as we're gonna get.

Sam has been right...

Sam Kellner

2010/03/28

Tad,

I can see how that "release" would not release at all, especially with 400lb of load.

2010/04/02

Would/could not release at all. No better than any others.

2010/04/03

When you pull your release and nothing happens , and you shitt your pants, then you will know how!

Brian Vant-Hull - 2008/06/30

We found that under a load of 194 pounds the Bailey release required a very strong tug (I couldn't do it at first) while Tad's release could be actuated with the friction of two fingers at twice that load. Rooney could actuate the Bailey release immediately, but admitted they practiced this during tandem training, so he knew to wrap his fingers over the top and pull vigorously. I do not believe that if the forces became this strong I could operate the Bailey release with the alacrity required under lockout conditions, but could actuate the Tad release. I won't speak for Jim, but

Under weight of these observations, I do attest that TAD's RELEASE is SUPERIOR to the BAILEY RELEASE and that the BAILEY RELEASE is SERIOUSLY FLAWED UNDER HIGH LOADS.

Either Sam's right or the needle, Sir Isaac, the high school physics teacher, and I - with the endorsement of Bart Weghorst - are right.

...and that bugs the heck out of you.

Nah, what bugs the hell - sorry - heck out of me is that in hang gliding reality is whatever anyone feels like saying it is based on whatever anyone feels like perceiving.

I believe that's tainted your perception on many things.

Nah, when I want my perceptions tainted I always use the pressure gauge.

When you pull your release and nothing happens , and you shitt your pants, then you will know how!

Now that I've been written off as beyond any hope of rehabilitation maybe you can dedicate some time to helping Sam regarding HIS pathological way of expressing things?