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Re: Intro and serious freedom of speech concern with this si

Postby magentabluesky » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:46 pm

The first original post of Hawk891 included three subject matters for discussion, Hawk891 was a gay pilot, was anonymous so his Christian Parents would not find out, and was looking for a forum where he could openly discuss the LGBTQ community within the Recreational Hang Gliding Community having to do with his sexual orientation.

JoeF wrote:Freedom has responsibilities. There is an off-topic freedom of speech section. Be well. Be right to all. Lift, Joe.
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JoeF wrote:To clarify, the tiny corner of the USA called USHawks forum has very many sections in it as a gift of a limited-funded recreational hang glider pilot. Most of the sections of the forum are for a focus on recreational hang gliding. The billions of issues in the world do not form the focus of a constrained place to deal with recreational hang gliding.
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Losing focus and having no moderation constraints for a fine-tuned-focused recreational forum allows destroyers to fill up the limited-time-space that focused visitors have. RHG (recreational hang gliding) visitors time-and-attention budget is limited;
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Is it the policy and rule of the US Hawks that the LGBTQ community cannot post threads relevant to LGBTQ within the Recreational Hang Gliding Community on the main message board?
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Re: Intro and serious freedom of speech concern with this si

Postby JoeF » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Have topics in general hang gliding be about hang gliding.

Ball-point-pen collectors or historical bonnet students may hang glide; it would be off focus for a hang glider pilot who studies bonnets to run a robust bonnet forum within the General Hang Gliding space just because bandwidth seems offered to trusted posters. Incidentally mentioning hang gliding in a push to present a robust bonnet forum within a RHG forum misses the point of the forum; hopefully the moderator would cut the bonnet forum out and put it in the Free Speech area where bonnet students may develop polite bonnet posts.

The forum owner nor the advisory board here has specifically made any rule about "ball-point-pen collectors" or "bonnet students" or ______ (billions of non-HG-focused topics). I would guess many special interest persons might use bandwidth anywhere they could simply by incidentally mentioning "hang gliding" as some magic key. Politicians might start opening topics within hang-gliding focused forum; hey, just incidentally write the words hang gliding and then do the campaigning push, etc.
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Is That You Jussie?

Postby Free » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:40 pm

magentabluesky wrote:Is it the policy and rule of the US Hawks that the LGBTQ community cannot post threads relevant to LGBTQ within the Recreational Hang Gliding Community on the main message board?


Really Michael?
Are you really a jet pilot?
I'm starting to worry about the public that may be at risk in strapping in behind a pilot that is really quite nutty?
The games you play. The time that is wasted for everybody involved on your campaign "to clear your good name" when in
reality all you are doing is making it worse.
You didn't listen when I said, all you have to do is say 'no thank you' to Bob.
You've allowed yourself to be drawn into a bigger thing of which you've never gained an inch on what you think you are debating.

I thank you for doing it, nonetheless. It serves a purpose of which you still are not cognizant.
You have lost the debate. You don't have a case worth anything.
Your good name and reputation is still the same as before you got sucked into the vortex but the difference now is that more of us can see it.

You should take my advise now and give it a rest. Stop putting so many people through this useless exercise.
Your case, your cause is kaput.
Your reputation is not harmed by what Bob says. He is not speaking for you or putting words in your mouth.
The term "lying fraud' sucked of substance when Red used it and it doesn't play any better now.

It's time to get back on board the 'walk away' train as it leaves the station.
U$hPa has likely added the final straw to the camel's back.
The dirty corporate scheming is so clear that everybody can see it now.
The worm has turned and it's name is Mark Forbes.
What an ugly bastard it is.

There is your new focus. Work on that and I'll work on Bob to return you to social graces.
You are still a lovable guy as far as I can tell.
I'm jealous of your job. How great is to get paid to fly sky rockets!
Concentrate on the right things and be sure to get plenty rest.
Trains wreck and run off the tracks when sleep deprivation distracts.
Ask me how I know.
Peace brother..
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Re: Intro and serious freedom of speech concern with this si

Postby magentabluesky » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:31 pm

Joe Faust wrote:Incidentally mentioning hang gliding in a push to present a robust bonnet forum within a RHG forum misses the point of the forum;


Joe you write about the Recreational Hang Gliding robust bonnet all the time in the Hang Gliding General forum:

In Dockweiler RHG Diary Joe Faust wrote:Off load parts; set up ramp; off-load wing; rig wing; don helmet and harness; clear; fly off ramp.

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In Hang Gliding General Joe Faust wrote:= Helmet
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In Hang Gliding General Joe Faust wrote:In HG it is generally shared: Operate so as not to hurt people and things; keep proper distance; recommend helmets for helpers, etc.
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In Hang Gliding General Joe Faust wrote:Upon local review, slap that sticker on his or her helmet.
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In Hang Gliding General Joe Faust wrote:Wears a helmet while flying a hang glider.
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In Hang Gliding General Joe Faust wrote:]Has demonstrated habits of just-before-launch checks of harness parts donning, helmet, flight area clearance of people and obstacles, and hook-in to glider.
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And many many more, on and on and on.

I would not want to go off topic of Hawk891’s LGBTQ community discussion with talk of the Hang Gliding robust bonnet, so let’s discuss:

Should Joe Faust list the sexual orientation of the pilot on the USHGRS, if the Pilot specifically requests his/her sexual orientation be listed his/her USHGRS listing?

Should the government require Joe Faust to list the sexual orientation of the pilot on the USHGRS if the Pilot specifically requests his/her sexual orientation be listed his/her USHGRS listing?

Is Joe Faust discriminating against the pilot based on sex and sexual orientation if he refuses to comply with the pilot’s wishes or the government’s demands?

Since the US Hawks are so committed to being moral up right citizens:

Should Joe Faust list convicted sexual predators on the USHGRS?

And what about Mothers Against Drunk Driving:

Should Joe Faust list convicted DUI’s and drug convictions on the USHGRS?

We do want our Hang Gliding Community safe, don’t we?

Maybe we should move this to another thread to carry on the discussion:

What should Joe Faust list on the USHGRS to keep the LGBTQ community safe in Recreational Hang Gliding?
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Re: Intro and serious freedom of speech concern with this si

Postby wingspan33 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:10 pm

Michael Grisham,

How many times have you spoken up for Joe Faust on sg.org today?
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Re: Intro and serious freedom of speech concern with this si

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:13 am

wingspan33 wrote:Michael Grisham,

How many times have you spoken up for Joe Faust on sg.org today?


Great question Scott!!!

Michael, how many times today have you spoken up against Jack's unjust ban of Joe Faust?
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