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Re: Two Dead at Torrey - Paragliding Collision (March 9, 201

Postby dhmartens » Mon May 13, 2019 12:07 pm

I saw a rescue video last year or so where SDFD said Torrey rescues had dropped from (estimated)64 down to only 4. So there have been saftey improvements, or they are doing their own rescues.

This has not gone unnoticed by LA rescue at all of the "training" SD rescue gets.
SD rescue has honed their ability to provide fast rescue and transport to minimize injury and now LA is jealous.

SHGA asked to participate in mock hang glider rescue ... f=2&t=5878

Past discussions with L.A. Fire Dept Chief Ward have resulted in their invitation to participate in a training exercise using 2 or 3 hang gliders and hang glider pilots as rescue victims.

This will be a great opportunity for our club to receive great recognition for our contributions to the community.

I'm looking for volunteers for this Saturday, June 9th event, possibly at nearby Hansen Dam Rec Area. I need 2 volunteers for each glider for set up, breakdown, victimhood, and possibly technical advice to the rescuers.

Windsports will provide the busted up gliders and harnesses and helmets if necessary.

A big problem in San Diego is Home price affordability and lack of hang glider storage at the flight park.
Paragliding is the only alternative for renters. ... homes.html
By comparison, millennials can afford just 10% of the homes in Dallas, 13% in Boston and barely 2% in San Diego."

Sylmar offers hang glider storage

Hang glider storage should be written into the RFP.


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Re: Two Dead at Torrey - Paragliding Collision (March 9, 201

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:33 am

From the Oz Forum discussion about the recent Torrey paragliding deaths ...
Ben Reese wrote:Yo! Billie,

This thread is about PG accidents at Torrey Pines.
Bille Floyd wrote:Lets review some of the deceased HG pilots , that checked out on the Torry cliffs :

*D Wells -- late 70's dies on an Owl
*AJ Larcon -- died doing acro just south of launch
* That old guy ? died landing on the North face at Torry
* Then there was that HG Comp pilot from Rio (?) ,that met his end 
landing on the torry golf coarse.

That's 4 pilots that i know of ... 

Bille cites 4 hang gliding deaths at Torrey since the 70's. That's less than one per decade. These are the paragliding deaths that I know of at Torrey since just 2012:

     - Pamela Hargett
     - Glenn Johnny Peter Bengtsson
     - Raul Gonzalez Valerio

That's 3 in 7 years. If you extrapolate that to the roughly 50 years that hang gliders have been flying at Torrey you would expect to have had over 21 hang glider deaths in those 50 years. But Bille can only recall 4.

This isn't a scientific review, and there are many other factors to be considered, but on the face of it, these numbers show a paragliding death rate 5 times higher than the hang gliding death rate at the same flying site.
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