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Re: Best Plan to Save Sport of Hang Gliding

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:06 am

Let's review:

Swift proposes to discuss saving hang gliding:

Swift wrote:Best Plan to Save Sport of Hang Gliding

Let's start a conversation. I have an idea that can positively result in the growth of new pilots.
People can start lining up with their own arguments and I'll hold mine off for a while. 
Do you see hang gliding dying a slow death, or not? 
Steve Pierson's recent concerns as the premier hg manufacturer in the US tells me the premise is true. What can we do about it?


Then the clowns that Davis nurtures have a cat fight about all kinds of unrelated nonsense. Who gets banned ... excuse me ... "deleted" by Davis Straub?

Swift!!!!      :shock: :crazy:

So the guy with the original idea is the one that gets booted from the discussion!!!

Then Davis puts up an "iron curtain" to keep out certain other ideas (like the U.S. Hawks) that Davis doesn't like. Bille Floyd cheers, and off they go to save hang gliding with the best minds in the sport neatly out of the discussion.

I included this as number 2 in my list, but it probably should have been #1:

Bob Kuczewski wrote:Best Plan to Save Sport of Hang Gliding
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2. The hang gliding community cannot continue to allow their communication channels to be controlled by Jack and Davis. There have been far too many good pilots with good ideas that have been silenced by those two clowns. And who do they silence? Some of the most talented and energetic people in the sport: Joe Faust, Rick Masters, Scott Wise, Ben Reese, Bob Kuczewski, Tommy Thompson, Warren Narron, Brian Horgan, Al Hernandez, and many others.
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Re: Best Plan to Save Sport of Hang Gliding

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:46 am

From USHPA's web site:

USHPA wrote:Tracking membership with no ratings (including Contributing Members) began in 2010. Prior to 2010, members with no ratings or ratings in both wing types were tracked in the Both category. Recreation RRG was established in March 2016 and began issuing policies in June 2016.

USHPA Membership - 1972-2019
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The gray line is total USHPA membership. The blue line is hang gliding, and the orange line is paragliding.

This graph reflects what happened to me in early 2004 when I went to Torrey to look into hang gliding lessons. I'd made my first hang gliding flights in 1978, and my first paragliding flights in 1990. In early 2004 I decided to dedicate myself to getting the hang gliding ratings to fly at Torrey.

So I went to Torrey to ask about hang gliding lessons. David Jebb and I sat down at one of the old round tables, and Jebb began:

      Jebb: "What do you do for a living Bob?"
      Bob: "I'm an aeronautical engineer, but I mostly write software."
      Jebb: "All the professional people are getting into paragliding now."
      Bob: "I'm really interested in hang gliding."
      Jebb: "We don't teach hang gliding here. But you could be paragliding today."

How many times has that well-rehearsed discussion been repeated since Jebb took over Torrey Pines in1998? How many? You can count them right there in the blue line on that graph.

In 2007, we founded the Torrey Hawks Hang Gliding Club to try to reverse that trend. The Torrey Hawks were a USHPA Chapter for nearly a decade (2007 through 2016). USHPA (Mark Forbes) refused to issue us site insurance in 2009 even though we paid for it (cash) and got a receipt. In 2016, USHPA simply refused to renew the Torrey Hawks chapter status. No reason was ever given. They just refused to process the renewal.

No one has said it better than Rick Masters in 2015:

Rick Masters wrote:People talk about the sport of hang gliding dying. It's not dying. It's being murdered. By the U$hPA.
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