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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Bill Cummings » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:45 am

I haven’t kept track of the comparative pricing between paragliders and hang gliders for when someone is trying
to decide which way to go to enjoy flying. I can see where someone might be swayed toward paragliding when
looking at the ease of transport, overall weight, cheaper storage, wider margin for a crosswind takeoff, the ability
to land in a smaller landing zone, and many other ground based logistical advantages. Hike and fly would be less
limiting with PG than HG. I’ve heard it said, “Everything is better with paragliding than hang gliding except for the
flying.” I feel I know the frame of mind that most of the paragliding community is in because when I started hang gliding the design at the time allowed for a luff dive without recovery all the way to the ground. Still I decided to
take up hang gliding knowing the risk. Further design improvements eliminated the luff dive in hang gliders. No longer would the wing deform in flight and stop being a wing. The hang glider would retain its design camber and wing shape. As long as people go into a sport aware of the risks I have nothing I can say against their freedom to make that choice. I would feel like a hypocrite if I did so. When I see a PG wrapped around a thermal I do anguish
over whether or not they knew of this risk. The biggest problem normal air turbulence has affected any hang glider
that I have flown was to twist a right wing tip up and cause a right turn that tired me out of the air.
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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:07 am

Your story Bill about owning a glider that could "luff" and knife edge in, is a story of bravely flying that wing and dragging her into the backyard for some "modification", and test flying,
The "LUFF" was on the job training building 4:1 ratio went through the roof within just a short time. You guys "tinkered and tweeked" your way to 15:1

The parasail can never be backyard modified to "not luff".
Maybe parasailers should have to buy extra high cost "Will Luff" insurance.
Parasailers should have to have extra higher cost insurance in case of a collapse and rescue in the out back.
Parasailers could pick low cost coastal breeze insurance, and then transfer over to the higher price mountain sheer and terror insurance.

®HangGliders would get their own low cost "HangLoose"insurance company with "good pilot" discounts and auto magic membership in a "ride to glide" services Also discounts on storrage.
The contrast between the ushpa insurance company, and the "®HangLoose Insurance Company.
Here is a contrast... (If you fly allot). The .amount of money spent on parasailing over 20 years, and the amount of money spent being a ®HangGliding pilot for 20 years. And how many "wings" and why have you had in 20 years.

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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:54 am

http://themillenniumreport.com/2019/03/ ... am-schiff/

This cabal , and many others, are the ICE BERGS that is "rubbing" up against our Republic forever..........

The President of the Republic and this Team is the HEAT



Black and white

CONTRAST
Is best done by reading and listening to words, and "doodling", without the noise videos. (Which is their way to get you to ....not read, and not listen) That gives "curiosity and imagination a chance"

"®BERGS" @ u$hpa is a new label

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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:06 pm

Contrast the body language of this:
https://overflytenerife.com/acro-paragliding/
THEME PARK RIDE

And this: " "SHEER" terror

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SCrE9rCNw-E
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=10155388689688723&_rdr
Sorry for in your facebook. When you need health care and liability insurance.

OR GLIDE

contrast the body language of this pilot and his wing:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BCq2g5CXfh8

And Fly Really Fast ....CHERP

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lC5lMfniKDw
When you "practice" good health care, by choosing The right wing and Cherping.

"The more you know, the more you'll go". Juan Browne
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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:22 pm

https://www.bestlifequote.com/blog/life ... ragliding/

Interesting concept they have for the word "paragliding".
Over and over I see the "paragliding" word attach itself like mold on to the sport of "®HangGliding"
®=respect
For arguments sake:

Paragliders die at twice the rate as pilots. So pilots should pay half. "What's a pilot?" it starts with the choice of wing, and Come on, we'll show ya.

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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:19 pm

https://www.ushpa.org/page/from-parachu ... aragliders

"From Parachutes to Paragliders".... .where does that leave "®HangGliders"?

Paragliders would always "look up" to their fellow pilots, in the early days, because the ®Hang Gliders could always find the lift, and fly in it better. Maybe that's the time they decided to "steal " the word hang gliding, and "hot dog" themselves into the "historical" sphere of the pilot of a hang glider.
See how crafty the words and placements, in this article, of "glider", paragliding hang glider.
"Paraglider" absorbed "canopy", "parasail", "glider", "hang glider". Very smart to associate yourself with "Hang Glider Pilot."
Check out the insurance coverage. .....a Chinese Collapsable Canopy Wing,
A state of the art "American "hang glider wing" or older hang gliding wing...... same costs.
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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:31 pm

This is my contrast about "The Center Gravity".

A "nose heavy" airplane is very hard to fly..... A "tail heavy airplane" flies ......
ONCE.



One of the first things taught to me about "flying" is C/G , L/D & AOA.

Over the years, many things, and people, have "attached" to wings, But there are very basic things to be learned, no matter what.

If your C/G changes to the rear (as if the unsecured baggage slides to the rear on take off) your "wing" has "crashed in mid air", and only a good pilot and a good wing will "survive". If exactly the same plane and pilot take off with a "nose heavy" C/G, it will " fly", although at least much harder to "fly". Speed over the wing is always the "compensator". As a pilot of a "wing", I always knew and "felt" exactly where my C/G was, everything was coordinated. It always remained the same because "I made it so". I could "scare my wing" once in awhile, but it always knew how to survive on its own with out my help. Because I could " always maintain my shape", I knew in my heart that my "pilot" had the confidence to "always" be able to "fly me".
From my ®HangGlider point of view, my pilot is attached to me in the "one perfect place". From a "parasailer" point of view, my "flyer" is attached to me in so many places, I'm not ever quite sure exactly where they want my C/G to be, the baggage is always moving around, And then when I do find it, they change it again, it drives me crazy. I really do want to fly fast and straight sometimes, but to do that, requires (at ALL times), a "stable well built wing", AND a "pilot" who "dares to follow my lead".
My contrast is "uncoordinated" over "coordinated"
My contrast of "Para" over "Pilot" is this:
"Para" is constantly working hard, and controlling the shape of his "constantly changing shaped" wing, a Pilot of a ®HangGlider is following the lead of his "constant shaped" wing (that he built and tested,. for arguments sake), and the trust built up over many many flights is SOLID
Another "contrast" is "trim". From a wings point of view, it my pilot puts me
Into "good trim" (I start out every day in good trim thank you very much) a smooth flight is had. If my pilot doesn't know me that well (because I do have temper tantrums once in awhile) and is always "searching" for trim, a smooth flight is a "sometimes" thing.
In simplistic ®HG terms I Am an "Always" wing, with an "Always" pilot.
In simplistic ®Para terms, I am a "sometimes" wing, with a "sometimes" pilot.

"Flying" is one thing, but "choice" of wings for "your" conditions is something that may stay with you over your whole life. There are so many "wings" in our lives to choose from.
I would suggest the "nose heavy wing" that you can "free fly", over the "tail heavy" wing , which takes "constant control",...... any day.

And if I was an insurance company, I would choose to insure an "always" wing over a "sometimes" wing, and charge "way" more for the "latter".

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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:12 pm

“You could feel the fear,” Don said, “from people wondering, ‘Can hang gliders really fly in afternoon turbulence in Owens Valley?’ …. If these things can actually fly in this place, the most turbulent place on earth, in the most turbulent time of day, then they’re going to prove themselves as worthy aircraft. Otherwise they’re just toys.”

"To gain a little more speed from his Mariah, Gary Patmore had detuned his wingtips – a risky procedure on a glider that was giving indications of being inherently pitch instable. He was thermalling above the peak when the nose of the glider pitched up violently. He swung his weight to initiate a turn, but the glider was stalled. It fell through and the nose tucked under. It tumbled forward several times, then broke, clapping its wings around the pilot. Patmore was trapped in the falling wreckage. His arms pinned. He was unable to throw his parachute as he plummeted toward the mountain."

"At the very last instant, with the: superhuman effort that only mortal fear can provide, Patmore ripped his arms free and hurled his parachute. The canopy burst open just before impact. It saved his life but he hit hard against the rocks. With a broken ankle, injured back and a lacerated face, he lay in agony alone on the peak until a helicopter rescued him."

"The extreme conditions of the Owens Valley have provided the world’s formost testing ground for the evolution of hang gliding design. In less than a decade the hang glider has progressed from the basic inefficient Rogollo to today’s superb soaring wings that are capable of out-climbing sailplanes and exceeding 266 kilometers in a single flight."

"The predictions of a great number of deaths in the Owens Valley from hang gliding accidents have proved false, due in part to the great sophistication of the modern wings and the respect of the pilots who fly the Owens Valley. In fact, if the proper level of respect had been exercised by all pilots to date, there would have been no deaths and only a few injuries. Let us learn from the lessons of others and avoid our own mistakes as we make the Owens Valley the world’s formost aeriel playground."

— from a three-part series by Rick Masters published in BHGA “Wings” Magazine – United Kingdom, May, June and July, 1981

This is exactly why I have adopted "®HangGlider". ® meaning respect.
These "Test Pilots" in the early years "stand" (and joyfully "jump" off of cliffs) alone in history. They had the benefits of learning steps 1, 2, and 3, with all its bumps and bruises, and are passing this old school, common sense attitude about being a pilot , on to another generation.

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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:20 pm

The "contrast" of the well spoken word ,...to what?

"Hang gliding was the cheapest way to fly. All it took was a few hundred bucks for a used glider and some friends willing to teach you. Some have claimed there were between ten to twenty thousand hang glider pilots flying during this period in the late 1970s. There were, of course, no paragliders. If you wanted to run off a hill into the sky, you did it on a hang glider. Nobody griped about the effort it took to learn. Learning was fun and flying was the reward.

But today I hear again and again about beginners dying on hang gliders. Something has changed for the worse. The quick progression to airtime on paragliders has overrun the steady incremental training required to master a hang glider. Instructors know they can make a lot more money teaching people to fly paragliders in a few days than to spend weeks with a novice hang glider pilot. So participation in hang gliding has diminished. That’s okay. I really don’t care if there are a whole lot or only a few hang glider pilots out there. I don’t buy the argument that there is a critical mass for hang gliding. Hang gliding is special. Special people will always find a way. "

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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:27 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tikpz6UY2bk
"Fluid Grace CAN become 'in your face' in turbulent conditions. Now there is some good parasailing advertising for you.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kEDSKQL4NXM how can the word "collapse" bring new people into flying. Oh I know..... "u$hpa marketing"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NMliNfmrDYg&t=130s

How to eat two spaghetti sandwiches, called "big ears and cravatte, mess with your laundry, and try to convince people that parasailing is easy, all in one easy lesson. Each lesson (and there are many) really bring the novice into the world of u$hpa parasailing. Notice how they use the words wing and glider in ALL their videos.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ElTWzr8IDFU "Flying with your face forward" JOY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tSJeZ3FJ594. "The most fun you can have with your pants on"

Now contrast these videos, and see how a real glider wing performs. Notice how this "Pilot" can concentrate on "Flying" and looking forward, and being 110% trusting of HIS "wing" , instead of constantly "fixing", and looking at the sail to try and figure out what the Fu** it's doing. No wonder parasailers bump into each other.

The "Preflight" and planning to fly part, is as important as anything, the many "Fixing and sometimes, Flying" parasailing videos, are hard to watch.

"Teach your Children well"
They can eat spaghetti and fold laundry at the appropriate time.

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