Personal Journals about Hang Gliding

Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby Rick Masters » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:03 pm

July 22, 2018
Image
                                                                        PG fatality #1,713
The hits just keep on coming...

Paragliding safety questioned after Chelan Butte fatality
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/jul/18/paragliding-safety-questioned-after-chelan-butte-fatality/

Criticism of paragliding safety criticized
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/jul/19/criticism-paragliding-safety-criticized/

FYI for Jimbo: French fatality list 2010-2013
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink...
https://federation.ffvl.fr/sites/ffvl.fr/files/2015_TRADUCTION_GB_ARTICLE_ACCIDENTOLOGIE_2010_2013_PARAPENTE_V150210def.pdf
Rick Masters
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 3052
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:11 am
Location: Owens Valley

Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby magentabluesky » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:04 pm

Feel Good Break

If you are going to do dangerous sports make sure you have a animal to look out for your well being.

magentabluesky
Michael Grisham
magentabluesky
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 162
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 10:26 pm

Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby Rick Masters » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:23 pm

July 23, 2018
Image
                                                                        PG fatality #1,714
Don Croft
Athol man, 69, dies after hang-gliding accident on Steptoe Butte
UPDATED: Mon., July 23, 2018, 6:01 p.m.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/jul/23/athol-man-69-dies-after-hang-gliding-accident-on-s/
________
Don Croft began flying paragliders in 2012 and had received his USHPA P3 rating in January 2018.
Rick Masters
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 3052
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:11 am
Location: Owens Valley

Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby Rick Masters » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:49 am

Paragliding        July 23, 2017
Image
PG fatality #1,715
Rick Masters
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 3052
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:11 am
Location: Owens Valley

Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby wingspan33 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:27 am

Rick Masters wrote:July 23, 2018
Image
                                                                        PG fatality #1,714
Don Croft
Athol man, 69, dies after hang-gliding accident on Steptoe Butte
UPDATED: Mon., July 23, 2018, 6:01 p.m.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/jul/23/athol-man-69-dies-after-hang-gliding-accident-on-s/
________
Don Croft began flying paragliders in 2012 and had received his USHPA P3 rating in January 2018.



The Spokesman newspaper article describes this guy as a hang glider pilot. But nothing seems to indicate that he flew anything but PGs or powered PGs. Considering that, I sent to reporter the following note:

Hello Chad,

All information I have found indicates that this unfortunate older gentleman was involved with paragliders, not hang gliders. Also, he seemed to mostly do powered paragliding.

The hang gliding community does not like it when our sport is mistakenly associated with a paragliding fatality. A fatality should be accredited to the proper sport so that the public can understand which sport is which, and which one is actually more dangerous (i.e, paragliders).

Paragliders, both non-powered and powered are more dangerous than hang gliders. This is true since hang gliders have solid aircraft grade aluminum air frames while paragliders (complicated ram air parachutes) are simply thin nylon airfoils inflated by air flowing into and around the canopy. Paragliders have no air frame to keep them aerodynamic in "rough" air, or more specifically, turbulence. Paragliders are also less stable and/or controllable in "gusty" conditions - particularly during take off attempts. This sounds like the situation in this case.

If you could contact the "friend" who is mentioned in the report, he or she could probably give an accurate description of the equipment being used.

Thank you for your time.


PS - The reporter got back to me fairly quickly. Here's his reply -

Chad Sokol wrote:On Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 2:22:59 PM EDT, Chad Sokol <ChadSo@SPOKESMAN.com> wrote:

Hi - I understand the difference between a hang glider and paraglider. Several others have contacted me about this. I've asked the sheriff, who provided the information for the story, to look into it. I don't have the name of the friend who talked to the sheriff's deputies. We'll issue a correction if need be.

Chad
wingspan33
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 849
Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:24 pm

Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby DaveSchy » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:37 am

The recent Chelan fatality on Hy 97 is being characterized locally as "not paragliding".
The pilot launched from Deer Mt, not Chelan Butte, so I assume that, in what is left of their minds, excludes U$HPA.
The pilot was "speed flying". Doesn't U$HPA include speed flying? Isn't speed flying just paragliding at a higher wing loading?
Another case of "eating it" and your cake, too.....
Smells a bit Fobinian from this side of the Cascades.
DaveSchy
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 63
Joined: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:26 pm
Location: Mill Creek, WA

Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby Frank Colver » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:49 am

It is my impression that USHPA now includes all forms of getting airborne with gravity power alone. Wing suits, base jumping, jumping off curbs with umbrellas, etc. The organization has become way too diluted in purpose. We need a national organization that is dedicated to recreational hang gliding to serve our best interests. We also need flying sites that don't mix parachute riding and hang gliding at the same time of day.

Frank C
Frank Colver
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 913
Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 11:21 am

Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby Rick Masters » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:21 pm

The organization has become way too diluted in purpose.


USHPA has become like the drunk who got locked in the liquor store overnight and drank everything. Except for us, waiting for him to sober up, the long night never seems to end. In fact, it keeps getting longer with every new bottle of booze he finds.
Rick Masters
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 3052
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:11 am
Location: Owens Valley

Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby magentabluesky » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:52 pm

They go hand in hand.

Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airmen - Lost in the Ozone Again

magentabluesky
Michael Grisham
magentabluesky
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 162
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 10:26 pm

Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby DaveSchy » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:49 am

I met Buffalo Bruce Barlow when I was a kid in Oxnard. I think he was their bass player...
DaveSchy
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 63
Joined: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:26 pm
Location: Mill Creek, WA

PreviousNext
Forum Statistics

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests

Options

Return to Blog Forum

cron