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Hang Gliding Aerobatics

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:07 pm
by Rick Masters
I have always desired to do hang gliding aerobatics but I have never attempted a loop due to apprehension over a design flaw inherent to conventional hang gliders.
This design flaw makes looping conventional hang gliders much more dangerous than looping sailplanes (or looping rigid hang gliders with rigid suspension systems).
In looping a sailplane "by the numbers" - which is not particularly macho - if the pilot makes the error of not having enough speed at the top of the loop, the sailplane (usually) falls out of the incomplete loop, dives, regains flying speed and recovers. The pilot is not hurled out of the canopy by G-forces or sent banging around inside the cockpit because he is solidly belted to his seat. Whatever the sailplane does, with or without his input, the pilot travels right along with the sailplane, maintaining the proper cg point and thereby not messing up the aerodynamic balance of the aircraft.

When the development of the modern Rogallo-type hang glider (strangely) ended in 1980 with Roy Haggard's Comet and the subsequent Comet Clones, hang gliding lost its dynamic evolution. The flaw of a positive-G-only suspension system remained. Today, 35 years later, this has not changed. Failed aerobatic maneuvers and extreme turbulence events still result in loss of control and sometimes structural failure caused not by excessive aerodynamic loading but by point overstress of the pilot's mass impacting the keel and/or a sudden rearward location of the cg resulting in a tuck and often, again, structural failure.

ALL ABSOLUTELY UNNECESSARY!

Eric Raymond solved this problem in 1980 by fitting limiting straps to the harness of his Sunseed. Why does this problem still exist? Who is at fault?

All are invited to respond and provide videos. (No paragliding crapola.)

Video: http://voddownload03.globo.com/v0/02/79/c5/2426877_c556c09037b6ee5d0c9ce1279d35b86985a5ee24/2426877-web360.mp4?h=0502143777746763527905871437781067772783613811x92QDnVs6zpVM_PDkv6bw&k=html5
The great Renato Ribeiro makes a little mistake
February 24, 2013
R.I.P.

Re: Hang Gliding Aerobatics

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:15 pm
by Harry
Can't open link you provided.

As for impacting the glider, gliders can be made stronger at the expense of handling and overall weight.

Re: Hang Gliding Aerobatics

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:56 pm
by SamKellner
What happened to the Seagull enclosed pod that was advertised ~5yr ago?

I'm thinking of doing an aerobatics comp, July 4, '16, at Leakey, (lay'-key), where we held the Texas Open Fly-in, '02 - '09

u$hPa National Fly-In status '04, '05, '06.

I do low and slow scooter tow instruction there @ 49R now, and the footlaunch in SW Texas is there with a site record of 162mi

Re: Hang Gliding Aerobatics

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:14 pm
by Rick Masters
February 24, 2013

The great Renato Ribeiro makes a little mistake
February 24, 2013
R.I.P.

Re: Hang Gliding Aerobatics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:50 pm
by Bob Kuczewski
SamKellner wrote:I'm thinking of doing an aerobatics comp, July 4, '16, at Leakey, (lay'-key), where we held the Texas Open Fly-in, '02 - '09

u$hPa National Fly-In status '04, '05, '06.

I do low and slow scooter tow instruction there @ 49R now, and the footlaunch in SW Texas is there with a site record of 162mi


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Sam, what you're accomplishing in Leakey is an inspiration. Super super job!!!