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Re: Losing airspace to hang gliding because of paragliding

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:10 pm

RickMasters wrote:    They threw it away.
    Everything we worked for, they threw it away.
    The USHPA lost our insurance. They lost our sites.
    They became representatives for the business interests and lucrative growth of paragliding.
    They depleted the Foundation for Free Flight. Any dissenters were told to shut up.
    Now they're telling the hang gliding members to fork over more money to cover losses incurred from paragliding and the dummies do it.
    They've become a wrecking ball.
    (Not that much of anybody seems to notice...)
    We need to return to recreational hang gliding.

- Form a national hang gliding association that does not wreck everything it touches -


    "Not that much of anybody seems to notice..."

We've noticed, and we appreciate you helping us notice.
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Re: Losing airspace to hang gliding because of paragliding

Postby Rick Masters » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:35 pm

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Re: Losing airspace to hang gliding because of paragliding

Postby Rick Masters » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:19 am

    At the end of the 1970s, the USHGA took ultralights under its wing much the same way it adopted paragliding in the 1980s. The intent was somewhat noble. These people were dying like flies and USHGA wanted to give them survival pointers and help them organize into a coherent self-management entity. They were also buzzing our launches, sometimes flying dangerously, sometimes drinking. They didn't hang out with us - they hung out with each other. It wasn't really a good fit at all but there was a tremendous amount of money in it - especially for our own manufacturing base of hang gliding companies. A lot of us recreational hang glider pilots watched this with skepticism, and then growing apprehension, as power commercialism threatened to dominate the magazine articles and advertising, making us fear that ultralights would consume hang gliding and take over our association.
    Go take a look at the May 1981 issue of Hang Gliding Magazine to see what I mean. It had become pretty clear that we were going to lose our organization if we let this continue so a lot of pilots started raising their voices in protest. Here are a few of those letters to the editor:

It is now obvious that the honorable task which the USHGA took on several years ago, that of shepherding the ultralight powered aircraft craze through its infancy, has been successfully accomplished. The time is overdue for the representative organization of those who practice the art of hang gliding, the USHGA, to regain its focus and return exclusively to the pursuit of its original purpose. Two powerful factors are working to estrange the USHGA from its defined path. The first is economic. The market potential for small powered aircraft is much greater than for hang gliders. Predictably, the hang gliding industry is rushing to fill this need. Caught up in this rush are a great many of those who are responsible for guiding hang gliding through the years to its present astounding level of accomplishment. Now blind with enthusiasm, they tend to pressure the USHGA down a different road. The second factor has to do with the desires that motivate people to fly. Powered ultralight aircraft provide the pilot with unlimited airtime and unlimited mileage. The majority of pilots have no desire for engineless flight. Even hang glider pilots are turning to powered flight in droves. Screaming through the sky, motors snarling scant inches from their heads, they choose their destinations at will and claim they are hang gliding with engines. Blind with enthusiasm, they would take the USHGA with them. It is indeed a sorry day that I must remind the members and officers of the USHGA, and the staff of its publication, Hang Gliding Magazine, what hang gliding is. Hang gliding is the simplest form of flight. Our wings are light and maneuverable. Micrometeorology holds great meaning to us. We challenge the wind to games of skill. When we win, our rewards are airtime, distance and tremendous exhilaration. We desire the serenity of the sky. We are a breed apart.
Get power out of the USHGA or get the USHGA out of hang gliding!

-- Rick Masters

I am really tired of people trying to be considerate about this whole powered thing and I want to come right out and say what real hang glider pilots think of power people. We consider you power people to be a crass collection of of scum-suck rat-bags – a conglomerate of weak, lazy, fat and ignorant leach heads whose only brain functions are uncontrollable muscle spasms. Your type is easy to spot; all you have to do is start one of those noisy, rude and smelly little chain saw motors in a crowd and look for the guy who is salivating uncontrollably as visions of buzzing sporting events and spoiling hang gliding sites pass before his gin-glazed eyes. Well look, damn it, we've had enough. The last three surveys taken of the hang gliding community have all agreed. We don't want you. Get out. Take your nasty, loud and obtrusive machines to Nebraska and crop dust the sugar beets, consider voluntary euthanasia, but get out.
-- "Sky-man"

The July issue offered another letter sharing our opinion:

At the last OCHGA chapter meeting held on 5/14/81, a vote was taken concerning the inclusion of powered ultralights within the structure of the USHGA. The result was a unanimous 35 votes against the inclusion of any powered flight systems. As a group we recognize the tremendous potential that powered ultralights have, however we feel very strongly that their political and social needs will contrast sharply with those of the hang glider pilot. We have fought many battles concerning our image and we are finally receiving some much-deserved respect and understanding. The USHGA is our professional organization and we will not allow another "newborn babe" to ride into the spotlight on our worn coat-tails.
-- Stephen Fry, President of the Orange County Hang Gliding Association

But also in the July issue came a opposing response from Woody Cahall, who later would become AOPA Vice President of the Pilot Information Center. But in his letter to the United States Hang Gliding Association, Cahall neglected to mention that he was an Eipper ultralight dealer from New Jersey:

I emphatically disagree that the USHGA is losing sight of its goals. Powered ultralights were born through the efforts of respected hang glider pilots and are a family more closely related than other categories of aircraft. Due to the insight of the USHGA staff, it is inevitable that all concerned will benefit through a greater sharing of technology and expertise. To Sky Man, Sabey, Masters and others, let's not obscure the love of flight in a fog of hatred. There is no place for such petty foolishness.
-- Woodrow W. Cahall

Looking back on Cahall's accusations of "hatred" and "petty foolishness" against pilots trying to preserve our gliding and soaring organization, I was struck by how similar today's invective by soaring parachutists in hang gliding and paragliding forums is when directed against the few who continue to oppose the pollitically correct fait accompli of paragliding being combined with hang gliding.

It's not a done deal. If pilots decide that they no longer need to shoulder the heavy baggage of parachuting and wish to return to recreational hang gliding, the situation could quickly reverse. America was built on competition. Competition results in better products at lower prices. When you see the USHPA (illegally) kicking out a member for daring to compete, you have seen the writing on the wall.

- Form a national hang gliding association for hang gliding -
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Re: Losing airspace to hang gliding because of paragliding

Postby Rick Masters » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:05 am

This should help...
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‘Super Dell’ Schanze to run for governor as Independent
http://fox13now.com/2016/03/14/super-dell-schanze-to-run-for-governor-as-independent/
...well-known for his run-ins with the law. In April 2015, he pleaded guilty to pursuing a migratory bird and using an aircraft to harass wildlife for chasing down and kicking an owl in 2011 while flying his paraglider. During a 2014 hearing, Schanze told a judge that a human head was thrown through his window after a judge ordered that all of his guns be removed from his house pending trial. Police said no reports consistent with such claims had been filed. Schanze was sentenced to a year of probation. Schanze's criminal history includes a 2006 no-contest plea to creating a public nuisance for his use of a power-glider above I-15 in Draper.
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Re: Losing airspace to hang gliding because of paragliding

Postby JoeF » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:31 am

Unfortunate political forces have moved to "silence" various views. Sad.

All views deserve a respectful hearing.
Protect the rights of each participant.
Silencing has no place in our community.


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Hopefully those who have acted to silence sincere perspectives within their forums
in order to push PDMC parachute gliding while neglecting the needs of recreational hang gliding
will change course.  However, waiting for such is lost time. It is ripe time to focus on recreational hang gliding.
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Re: Losing airspace to hang gliding because of paragliding

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:17 pm

RickMasters wrote:It is now obvious that the honorable task which the USHGA took on several years ago, that of shepherding the ultralight powered aircraft craze through its infancy, has been successfully accomplished. The time is overdue for the representative organization of those who practice the art of hang gliding, the USHGA, to regain its focus and return exclusively to the pursuit of its original purpose. Two powerful factors are working to estrange the USHGA from its defined path. The first is economic. The market potential for small powered aircraft is much greater than for hang gliders. Predictably, the hang gliding industry is rushing to fill this need. Caught up in this rush are a great many of those who are responsible for guiding hang gliding through the years to its present astounding level of accomplishment. Now blind with enthusiasm, they tend to pressure the USHGA down a different road. The second factor has to do with the desires that motivate people to fly. Powered ultralight aircraft provide the pilot with unlimited airtime and unlimited mileage. The majority of pilots have no desire for engineless flight. Even hang glider pilots are turning to powered flight in droves.


That quote sums up what happens when you mix two different sports and two different cultures into one organization. The respect that we might have had for each other in separate organizations is lost when one side or the other gains a majority and can "have it's way" with the other.

RickMasters wrote:America was built on competition. Competition results in better products at lower prices. When you see the USHPA (illegally) kicking out a member for daring to compete, you have seen the writing on the wall.

- Form a national hang gliding association for hang gliding -


Yes, you have seen the writing on the wall. But more importantly ... you know how to read it!!!
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Re: Losing airspace to hang gliding because of paragliding

Postby Rick Masters » Thu May 05, 2016 11:41 am

May 5, 2016
PHUKET, Thailand: An Austrian expat allegedly running an illegal paragliding business received an official warning from the municipality and narrowly escaped charges on Tuesday. “We were informed by a concerned resident that Kurt Pirker was operating an illegal paragliding business at the windmill in Nai Harn,” said Rawai Mayor Aroon Solos. “We sent out municipality officers to warn him, but he kept at it. Mr Pirker was also found to be cutting trees illegally, despite previous warnings. We had no choice but to inform the police.”
    Witnesses said Mr Pirker insulted police officers, who arrived on the scene at 6:30pm. However, no charges have been filed against him. “We have sent an official warning letter to him. If he is caught operating his business without permission again, he will be arrested and charged for it,” Mayor Solos said.
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Re: Losing airspace to hang gliding because of paragliding

Postby Rick Masters » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:28 am

ITALY        July 9, 2016        "Pirates" on paragliders
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Here's a fool on a motorized paraglider taunting police and buzzing rooftops while previously flying a pirate flag and now a flag of a raised middle finger.
Do you think paragliders could try a little harder with public relations?
That would make you an optimist.

The 'pirate' on a paraglider returns to the roofs Crema
The reckless 'pirate' on the powered paraglider who likes to fly at very low altitude over houses in Crema has returned to do even more brazen acts. Thursday evening, the "Captain Harlock, a 47-year-old of Spino d'Adda (Cremona), has touched the roofs of the police station and the police station. With something new: instead of the flag with the skull and cross bones, he had one withthe middle finger raised. A sign of defiance to the police. The police of Crema are assessing all the elements in order to proceed against the man who, after the previous "undertaking" had been identified, prosecuted for overflight in prohibited areas and reported to the ENAC, the National Authority for 'civil aviation, which must decide on the suspension or revocation of the pilot's license. It is suspected that the "pirate" has a copycat as the 'original perpetrator is at this moment abroad.
http://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/16_luglio_09/pirata-parapendio-vola-nuovo-tetti-crema-066afbfa-45e3-11e6-be0f-475f9043ad28.shtml
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Re: Losing airspace to hang gliding because of paragliding

Postby Rick Masters » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:41 am

August 8, 2016
Today hang gliding was banned on the Italian side of Mt. Blanc due to too many paragliders interfering with helicopter rescues of crashed paragliders.
http://www.regioni.it/dalleregioni/2016/08/08/divieto-di-sorvolo-per-deltaplani-e-parapendiosul-versante-italiano-del-monte-bianco-471797/
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Re: Losing airspace to hang gliding because of paragliding

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:59 pm

Rick Masters wrote:Here's a fool on a motorized paraglider taunting police and buzzing rooftops while previously flying a pirate flag and now a flag of a raised middle finger.
Do you think paragliders could try a little harder with public relations?


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They might already be trying ... as hard as they know how.      :roll:
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