Change font size
It is currently Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:42 pm


Post a new topicPost a reply Page 1 of 1   [ 4 posts ]
Author Message
 Post subject: Gliding into Torrey Pines Cliff lift sans park launch
PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:16 pm 
Contributor
Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:41 pm
Posts: 3030
Gliding into Torrey Pines Cliff lift zones   sans   park launch
Ideas are invited on topic. Many birds do the deed. What are historical flights where such was achieved.

Start:

Exploratory method #1 wrote:
From remote non-park launch gain altitude enough to soar into the Torrey Pines cliff lift.
Fly the cliff lift. Then quietly e-HG away to some remote landing place.


#2?

Does the following page have any hints? http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/aviation/tor.htm

Quote:
Brainstorm over methods, launch methods, launches, airspace rules, ocean opportunities, kiting alternatives, highway opportunities, power-off gliding, power-on transit, ...

_________________
Join a National Hang Gliding Organization: US Hawks at ushawks.org

View pilots' hang gliding rating at: US Hang Gliding Rating System


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gliding into Torrey Pines Cliff lift sans park launch
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:05 am 
Contributor
Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:11 am
Posts: 3209
Location: Owens Valley
As far as I know, the first gliding flight over the Torrey Pines cliffs was made by Charles Lindbergh on the maiden flight of his new Bowlus Paperwing sailplane, the Anne Lindbergh, on February 22, 1930. He launched from Mt. Soledad, rode the lift over Torrey, and landed near Del Mar. The sailplane had a max l/d of 20:1. Details can be found in Gary Fogel's recent, highly-illustrated paperback, The Torrey Pines Gliderport (2014).
Image
http://www.arcadiapublishing.com/book/9781467131360

_________________
Rick Masters: Dangerous Thoughts    USHGA #30816  EAA #1269264     US Hang Gliding Rating System
A lot of foolish people think they're hang gliding with parachutes - but nobody ever thinks they're parachuting with hang gliders.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gliding into Torrey Pines Cliff lift sans park launch
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:59 am 
Contributor
Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:41 pm
Posts: 3030
We might have to discover some primary reference for a quote that was given in an article of 2010 about a 1910 flight

"Frazier Curtis ushered in the first flights off the Torrey Pines cliffs in 1910."
Ref: http://www.lajollalight.com/news/2010/a ... liderport/

A different source notes: "Frazier Curtis, is really given credit for forming the Escadrille Lafayette"
... to be verified. The quote was from: Flying Magazine - Nov 1934 - Page 282.

Some editor placed a caution on research: "There is often confusion between the Lafayette Escadrille and the Lafayette Flying Corps, exacerbated by the inaccuracies in the movie Flyboys."


Frazier Curtis was captioned as being on the left: https://www.neam.org/lafayette-escadril ... enguin.jpg
Photo on: https://www.neam.org/lafayette-escadrille/training.html

Quote:
Extensive article bio on Frazier Curtis: A bit of a challenge to see the PDF, but here is the search snip:
[PDF]Winter 2006 - La Jolla Historical Society
https://lajollahistory.org/download_file/view/142/108/
La Jolla Flyboy Frazier Curtis. By Sandy Spalding ... group, Frazier Curtis, lived in. La Jolla? Born at the family's ..... ish pilot's license No. 780. Curtis was back in ...


Some archive paragraphs are in: https://archive.org/stream/NewEnglandav ... k_djvu.txt
In that source: "It is believed that Curtis was the first American pilot to go over
to Europe to offer his services to the Allied Air Force, having sailed
from Boston on the Arabic, Sept. 2, 1914."


Attachments:
FlyingMagazineNov1934P282.jpg
FlyingMagazineNov1934P282.jpg [ 15.39 KiB | Viewed 1729 times ]

_________________
Join a National Hang Gliding Organization: US Hawks at ushawks.org

View pilots' hang gliding rating at: US Hang Gliding Rating System
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gliding into Torrey Pines Cliff lift sans park launch
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:11 pm 
Contributor
Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:41 pm
Posts: 3030
Quote:
The PDF newsletter mentioned: " From the time of their arrival, the couple captivated
the locals’ attention when it was reported in July that
Curtis had acquired a Shafler glider kit and was putting it
together. A number of people gathered on the slopes of
Mount Soledad in August to watch his attempts at flight
with his wife running down hill, rope in hand, trying to get
him aloft. It was the beginning of his love affair with flying."


Quote:
MAYBE THERE IS A MISSPELLING IN THAT PARAGRAPH: Consider "Shaffer" of maybe C. T. Shaffer.
See hereon a clip of a 1910 advertisement in Aeronautics:
Attachment:
AeronauticsADVforShaffer.jpg
AeronauticsADVforShaffer.jpg [ 17.94 KiB | Viewed 1723 times ]

Attachment:
AeronauticsAugust1910p54Shaffer.jpg
AeronauticsAugust1910p54Shaffer.jpg [ 44.36 KiB | Viewed 1722 times ]


We are face that Frazier Curtis has one "s" in name; this is distinct from the Curtiss family name (two" "ss" } in early aeronautics.

So, we still seek definitive reference for cliff-lift gliding for him at Torrey.
======================================

Not to lose a San Diego lore page on Lindberg: http://www.charleslindbergh.com/history/gliders.asp

_________________
Join a National Hang Gliding Organization: US Hawks at ushawks.org

View pilots' hang gliding rating at: US Hang Gliding Rating System


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post a new topicPost a reply Page 1 of 1   [ 4 posts ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
610nm Style by Daniel St. Jules of Gamexe.net