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Paraglider Accident at Torrey - April 2nd, 2015
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Author:  Bob Kuczewski [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Paraglider Accident at Torrey - April 2nd, 2015
April 2nd, 2015 ...

http://fox5sandiego.com/2015/04/02/crews-respond-to-paraglider-crash-in-torrey-pines/
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SAN DIEGO – A person was injured in a paragliding accident Thursday in Torrey Pines.

The accident occurred around 5 p.m. below the Torrey Pines Gliderport, according to San Diego Fire Department

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http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/Cliff-rescue-at-Torrey-Pines--298543231.html
Quote:
By Jason LiVecchi

Story Published: Apr 2, 2015 at 5:50 PM PDT

Story Updated: Apr 2, 2015 at 5:50 PM PDT

San Diego - Firefighters and lifeguards responded to the 2800 block of Torrey Pines Scenic Drive for a cliff rescue. Early reports indicate a paraglider crashed at the sight. The accident happened around 5:00 PM with one person transported from the scene on a stretcher to a waiting ambulance. No word on the condition of the patient.

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http://on.aol.com/video/woman-injured-when-glider-misses-its-landing-518745229
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Woman Injured When Glider Misses Its Landing

A woman was injured Thursday afternoon when a 2-person glider missed its landing at Torrey Pines and she fell about 25 feet ...
off a cliff.

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Author:  Rick Masters [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Paraglider Accident at Torrey - April 2nd, 2015
Gosh. I wonder if anybody's criticized the safety protocols at Torrey Pines, lately?
Author:  Bob Kuczewski [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Paraglider Accident at Torrey - April 2nd, 2015
RickMasters wrote:
I wonder if anybody's criticized the safety protocols at Torrey Pines ...


:srofl:

I wonder if anybody's listening.
Author:  wingspan33 [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Paraglider Accident at Torrey - April 2nd, 2015
The news report say that somebody indicated that a hang glider had gone down. Obviously she's wearing a paragliding harness but where's her collapsed canopy. It's not laying on the ground nearby.

Perhaps she just fell off the cliff? Maybe she was "kiting" without being connected to the canopy? Hey maybe that's Air California Adventure Inc.s new way of avoiding having to put a helmet on. You don't need a helmet if your not "hooked in"! :roll:

There's also mention about it being a two place (tandem) flight. So, where's the other occupant? Maybe they weren't injured and "went to get help". If it was a tandem flight it would probably have been with an Air California Adventure Inc. tandem instructor. Anybody know if "civilian" (non ACA Inc. pilot in command) tandems are allowed at Torrey Pines?
Author:  Bob Kuczewski [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Paraglider Accident at Torrey - April 2nd, 2015
wingspan33 wrote:
The news report say that somebody indicated that a hang glider had gone down.

That happens a lot in San Diego. I suspect most reporters will make their first call to the Gliderport when doing a story, and ... well I'll leave the rest to your imagination.

wingspan33 wrote:
Obviously she's wearing a paragliding harness but where's her collapsed canopy. It's not laying on the ground nearby.

I suspect the paraglider itself was quickly balled up to keep it from catching a breeze and inflating.

wingspan33 wrote:
There's also mention about it being a two place (tandem) flight. So, where's the other occupant? Maybe they weren't injured and "went to get help". If it was a tandem flight it would probably have been with an Air California Adventure Inc. tandem instructor. Anybody know if "civilian" (non ACA Inc. pilot in command) tandems are allowed at Torrey Pines?

I don't know the story behind this yet. If it was a tandem, it wouldn't surprise me that they're trying to cover it up. According to the lease, they're supposed to allow "Outside tandems" for a $25 fee. But I know personally that they tried to charge Dave Beardslee $100 per tandem that he wanted to fly. On the other hand, if you're one of their buddies, then it's fine to do it without paying anything. That's partly how they "bribe" local pilots to put on "happy faces" when anyone starts looking into what they're doing.
Author:  wingspan33 [ Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Paraglider Accident at Torrey - April 2nd, 2015
Bob,

What I'm wondering is, do they allow "recreational" PG tandems - where both parties are (let's say) Intermediate rated and not really doing an "instructional" flight?

In know basically how their PG tandem instructional system works. Just wondering if there is a difference.
Author:  JoeF [ Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Paraglider Accident at Torrey - April 2nd, 2015
Time to be in the air without paying the concessionaire a dime.
The concessionaire does not own or control what happens in the air
except by pressure on use of their leased land spot for launch,
which itself is a public park. Comprehensive discovery of ways
to get in the air without that postage-stamp spot of grass????
... while we continue to win back public-park status
without any concessionaire over-stepping its public trust.

Maybe split the grass area: part for a concession and professional launches
AND part for public-park recreation launches. Actually, the launch
could be the same, but just notice that there are professional launches
and recreational public-park launches being mix; keep the concessionaire
with it professional thingies and keep open and free the public-park
recreational launches. Declare it. Do it. San Diego, see how easy it
could be to MIX recreation with professional profit push.
No concession over recreational launch.
Only concession over professional launch.
Take turns: Pro, Rec, Pro, Rec, Pro, Rec, Pro, Rec.
And be faithful to the fact that radios are not required while in the air,
per FAA Class G airspace. Concessionaire, no more overlordship on rec free-flight!.
Author:  dhmartens [ Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Paraglider Accident at Torrey - April 2nd, 2015
It looks like it was after 5pm when conditions are usually smoother and glassy (at least at Sylmar). This is when I usually feel it is safer to get in close to the terrain. Maybe a jet thermal was waiting?

Doug
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