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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport RFP has been published
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:09 pm 
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I still haven't received a reply from the leasing office (not holding my breath), I sent another message to:

Council President Pro Tem Barbara Bry (District 1)
City Administration Building
202 C Street, MS #10A
San Diego, CA 92101

619-236-6611

barbarabry@sandiego.gov

https://www.sandiego.gov/citycouncil/cd1

I would encourage the local residents to do the same.


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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport RFP has been published
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:09 pm 
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Bob Kuczewski wrote:
Logan wrote:
My quotes were straight out of your 2017 RFP.

It turns out that the City hasn't made an award pursuant to that RFP yet. The REP gave the City The option to make no awards which I think is what they've done.

Bob,

What is your source? I would be interested in any link/person/post you may have regarding the Gliderport.

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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport RFP has been published
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:33 am 
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What is your source? I would be interested in any link/person/post you may have regarding the Gliderport.

I have periodically checked with Real Estate Assets Dept ("READ") asking for the current lease. I've always been told that it hasn't changed since 1998. I also keep an eye on the City Council docket for anything to do with the lease. That's no guarantee that they couldn't try to sneak it through, but it's the best I can do with limited resources.

Here's a link to the City's agendas: https://www.sandiego.gov/opengov/agendas

The more eyes on it, the better.

For example, here's an item on Tuesday's agenda regarding tie down fees at Montgomery airport:

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Item 100:
Approval to increase User Fees for Month to Month Aircraft Tiedown Users at Montgomery-Gibbs Executive Airport.

Total Estimated Cost of Proposed Action and Funding Source: N/A

Council District(s) Affected: 6.

Proposed Actions:

Subitem-A: (R-2019-320)

Resolution approving the increase of user fees for month-to-month tiedown tenants at Montgomery-Gibbs Executive Airport.

Subitem-B: (R-2019-325)
Resolution determining that the approval of the increase of user fees for month-to-month tiedown tenants at Montgomery-Gibbs Executive Airport is exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act Pursuant to Sections 15273(a)(1), 15273(a)(3), and 15273(a)(4) of the CEQA Guidelines.

Committee Actions Taken:
This item was heard at the Budget and Government Efficiency Committee meeting on November 14, 2018.
ACTION: Motion by Councilmember Cate, second by Councilmember Ward, to recommend Council approval of staff's proposed action.

VOTE: 4-0; Bry-yea, Ward-yea, Cate-yea, Gómez-yea.

Real Estate Assets: Debbie Shauger, (858) 573-1448
City Attorney Contact: David Powell

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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport RFP has been published
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:49 pm 
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2. Uses. The use of the Property shall be limited to the operation and maintenance of a
gliderport; use by non-powered aircraft and radio-controlled models (take-off and overflight); sale of hang gliding, paragliding, and sailplane parts and accessories; sale of
related merchandise; operation of a small food retail site (café); and incidental purposes
as may be first approved in writing by the City.”

Take off and over flight?
What City lawyer thought the FAA would hand
over overflight authority?


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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport RFP has been published
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:52 pm 
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http://docs.sandiego.gov/municode/MuniC ... sion02.pdf

Seems to be the relevant document.

Apparently there was or was supposed to be an advisory board at one point: http://docs.sandiego.gov/council_reso_o ... 303300.pdf

But their page seems to have been removed: https://www.sandiego.gov/department/tor ... sory-board (further links go nowhere)

Perhaps if a resident wants to purchase insurance and fly, they may be able to get a permit (I am not signing any portion of my insurance over to California)

Does anyone have a copy of USHPA's current insurance? I have a strong suspicion it isn't general liability insurance as required by the city.


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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport RFP has been published
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:36 pm 
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No permit shall be issued unless all of the following conditions are met:
(1) The applicant shall submit and maintain a certificate of personal injury
and liability insurance in the amount of Five Hundred Thousand
Dollars ($500,000) combined single limit, naming the City as an
additional named insured, and providing that in the event of
cancellation of the policy, the City will be provided at least thirty (30)
days’ written notice.


So, the poor citizen may not jump up in the air with a wing. Only the rich may play wing.

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“Hang gliding” means flight by any motorless, heavier–than– air contrivance
now known or hereafter invented, used or designed for navigation of or flight
in the air in which the pilot, crew and passengers are carried externally to the
frame of such contrivance.

So, a ski-jumper gliding is on a hang glider?
So, a sailplane with pilot atop the wing outside the airframe is flying a hang glider?

How to suppress recreational hang gliding in San Diego: oppress the activity in ways not done to surfer gliders, not done to kiteboarders, not done to jumpers and hikers, etc.
Waldo Waterman of San Diego, if you can pull some strings from above, you are so invited.

City of San Diego, you are already out of reach for liabilities from recreational hang gliding; the insurance blanket is not needed.

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