[Bill Cummings]

A copy/paste of a post by Ben Reese from the OZ REPORT.
(Here, Ben has done what few take the time to do.)

Bob Kuczewski's Expulsion Info Update Thu, Apr 18 2019, 11:58:12 pm
The following post is about the Life Time Expulsion of Bob Kuczewski
from USHPA. These are truthful and verified statements both written
and verbal gathered over time and reviewed prior to display here.

Intro:
With whatever credibility I have here in the OZreport forum, I would like
to spend clearing the record of misinformation with correct information.

There are 3 issues which I hammered Bob K. with in this forum that
played a part in creating his public image, convicting him of willfully harming USHPA.

They are in order of occurrence:

1. Voter Fraud of a competing organization and trying to manipulate
a vote similar to one USHPA would have had while he was an RD..

2. Personally volunteering and seeking out the opposing attorneys
in a lawsuit against USHPA. So he could testify against USHPA and
do harm to it..

3. Willfully lying in court testimony and committing perjury resulting
in the loss and $$ payout of USHPA's insurance company.

The base information came from many sources trusted by all of us.
These sources were used in determining Bob's expulsion.

I am not going to spend time chasing those sources here.
What I feel compelled to do is present information which can be found
which is convincingly contrary to these 3 labels which helped expel
Bob K. from USHPA membership and his freedom to fly for life..
This is a serious result and power that none of us should hopefully ever face.

1. Accused of Voter Fraud:

""Please Redistribute Votes
Sent: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:33 am
From: bobk
To: sg bobk SkyPilot S C Wise ThinAirDesigns

Jack (cc Transition Team Members - Note that PM would not send to all!!),

I just noticed that you've included me in the list of candidates. Yet my own candidate post (which you removed from the forum) stated:

"Finally, I'd like to comment that I fully endorse Scott Wise as Transition Team Chairman in addition to myself. In fact, if Scott does accept his nomination, then I will withdraw my own candidacy in support of Scott."

Scott did accept his nomination shortly after my post, and I am therefore not a candidate.

So I ask that all of the votes for me be redistributed to Scott since that was my posted recommendation prior to the start of voting.

Thanks.
Bob Kuczewski""

Below is:
Previous to above MSG sent to, Jack A. "SG" and others; From Bob K.
The full msg below and above can be seen at the link below.

""As you may know, I was on USHPA's Board of Directors, and I attended 5 of the 6 USHPA Board meetings over the last 3 years. I've seen how their board operates, and I've seen what works and what doesn't work. From that perspective, I've come to believe that the greatest problem with USHPA has been a lack of insight by the general membership into what the Board does and how it does it. All of their other problems flow from that one single failing. So when I began contemplating a new national organization, I immediately thought about what we could do better. The list (as you might imagine) was pretty long, but at the top of it was accountability to our members. That means that the members should always know how we vote and how we conduct ourselves as representatives of the HGAA and particularly in all HGAA meetings and discussions. I think that is probably my primary goal for the new organization - transparency.

Finally, I'd like to comment that I fully endorse Scott Wise as Transition Team Chairman in addition to myself. In fact, if Scott does accept his nomination, then I will withdraw my own candidacy in support of Scott. I do this because I think that Scott has demonstrated the proper mix of authority and tolerance. This is a hang gliding association and it's made up of people who have a great deal of independence and self confidence. I believe our members would prefer a leader who respects that independence, and treats us with the respect that Scott has shown during his tenure as Transition Team Chair. Let's get back to where we were when we started and get behind Scott again to lead us forward.""

https://ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php ... 98&start=6

My conclusion:
Bob makes his intentions clear from the beginning..
He is willing to run for office only if "Scott Wise" does not run..
Bob, calls Scott the better candidate and endorses him.
Scott was late to decide on running and Jack A. "SG" did not
remove Bob K. from the ballot before the vote.

Bob then asked Jack to halt the vote and update the members that
a revote was the best option. Assigning Bob's votes to Scott was
also discussed but was dismissed as a viable solution..

This is not voter fraud or an attempt at voter fraud. It was an attempt
to provide the best candidate for members of the same party.
It was an error in communication and timing that caused the rumors.
Jack "SG" was supporting the opposite candidate. Bob accused "SG"
of allowing the vote to be split between Him and Scott causing neither
to carry the party they represented… One can argue that "SG" manipulated
the outcome as well as any single person could have. "SG" had a greater
fiduciary responsibility because of his control of the narrative and the flow of information.

Both Bob and SG had vested interests in different outcomes.. This does
not make either guilty of manipulation or voter fraud. Bob's version of
the story is supported by previous communications predicting this very
scenario and attempting to avoid it. Based on this info "SG" should have
used his fiduciary responsibility to have a revote excluding Bob from the
ballot. Same as USHPA did with the Reform re-vote, the best solution..
Accusing Bob of voter fraud was an emotional response, not a logical one.

The "voter fraud" label stuck to Bob and I perpetuated it with incomplete
information that wrongfully harmed Bob's credibility… I do not see his
actions as voter fraud. I see him trying to serve his supporters and represent
their interests as a candidate who steps aside for a more qualified candidate.
Actually it's a noble action that deserves telling. It is also a powerful
endorsement of a political position. A common practice in politics at
every level of service.


2. Accused of seeking out opposing attorneys in lawsuit against USHPA

Below copied from PDF #1:
Bob's 1st Contact:

From: Brett J. Schreiber <SCHREIBER>
To: <email> <bobkuczewski>

Subject: Expert Consultant in Paragliding Collision at Torrey Pines Gliderport Date: 09/28/2012 06:10:25 PM (Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:10:25 +0000)


""Mr. Kuczewski:

Our office is currently investigating a potential case involving an in-air collision between two pilots at the Torrey Pines Gliderport. In doing research on potential consultants and experts in the field we came across your contact information.

The long and short of it is that our client, Shannon Hamby, was a student pilot and was being directed into the landing zone when another much more experienced pilot came in from above and negligently, recklessly and/or intentionally collided with her causing devastating injuries. You may be familiar with the incident as it caught a lot of press and had a lot of buzz within the paragliding community.

I’d like to see if you have some time early next week to discuss acting in a consultant role for us with respect to the “rules of the road” of paragliding and possibly testifying down the road as an expert in the case.

Please get back to me at your earliest convenience.

Thank you. Brett""

Brett J. Schreiber

Associate

THORSNES BARTOLOTTA McGUIRE LLP

2550 Fifth Avenue, Eleventh Floor San Diego, CA 92103

Phone: 619-236-9363 Fax: 619-236-9653


Page 1 of 2

Website: http://www.tbmlawyers.com Email:<email>


Page 2 of 2

This letter above written to Bob K. is evidence against Bob making 1st contact from opposing attorneys.
I spoke to Bob in person over many months asking obvious questions before posting this..

Why and how did they choose to contact you?

"I was well known for attending the public City Council Meetings and my
name and email appeared on the meeting minutes, it's public info… "

"I was both an H4 and P4 and previous Regional Director with a history of
public scrutiny exposing unsafe practices by "ACA" Air California Adventures.
That was the defendant in this lawsuit."

"It was natural for them to approach me in discovery."

This above is a summary of some very extensive conversations between
Bob and myself…


Below Copied from PDF #2:
Bob's response to 1st Contact:
From: Bob Kuczewski <bobkuczewski>
To: Brett J. Schreiber <SCHREIBER>

Subject: Re: Expert Consultant in Paragliding Collision at Torrey Pines Gliderport Date: 09/29/2012 08:58:58 AM


""Mr. Schreiber,

For many years I have been trying to get the City of San Diego to provide meaningful oversight of the Torrey Pines Gliderport concessionaire for the purposes of fairness and safety. I have a long track record of those efforts.

I am continuing to pursue that goal, and my greatest concern about participating as an expert witness - in any one case - is that it may impede my ability to negotiate with the City to do a better job of oversight in general … and for all cases.

So I would need to be convinced that participating in your case would not cause me to be "shut out" at City Hall based on any real or perceived conflicts of interest. I don't know if that can be done, but if it can, then I might consider participation. Of course there may be other obstacles, but the greatest one I can see right now is my ability to work with the City to fix the problems at Torrey Pines for everyone's benefit and safety.

Please keep me advised as your selection process and the case continues.

Sincerely,
Bob Kuczewski""


This last letter is Bob's reply to 1st contact by opposing attorneys doing their jobs in discovery.
Bob's reply was considerate to the future of his sport and it's most public and famous flying site.
His agenda was disclosed as public safety and made clear to these attorneys.
His agenda was not to harm USHPA. That was the result of discovery in a lawful court case
where the truth must be discovered.. That is the basis of our very society and the duty of
every responsible and freedom loving citizen…

In light of the most recent events at Torrey resulting in 2 deaths it appears that Bob's warnings
and concerns were warranted. He continues to attend meetings at the City Council…
I think that before he attended to many of these meetings. That is my personal feeling.
This is a free country and public meetings are for the public discretion on attendance.


3. Perjury and lying in Court:

No formal accusations other than rumor that Bob lied in court.
He has not been accused in court records or admonished by a judge for perjury.
According to Bob's sworn words to me; not even a comment of perjury was
discussed by USHPA's defense about Bob's testimony as an expert witness.


My Summary:

Nothing I have presented here are grounds for expulsion.

A case can be argued that grounds for commendations are just as likely a result?

Of course this is not likely to happen. But a case for a re-evaluation of his expulsion
must be considered by a moral and honorable peer group.

My point here is that, if I am in any small way a representative and responsible to this
peer group for my historical actions, then I would want them carefully examined before
expelling and tearing me from the sport, so much a part of me…

We must base our decisions on valid information and if original information and assumptions
are wrong then we must correct that information and those assumptions.


Sincerely,

Ben Reese

[Bill Cummings]

Ben, Here is more information that can be checked out on the San Diego City website as an independent source
that will prove that the City of San Diego reneged on their lawsuit settlement concerning Hang Gliding at Torrey Pines.
This was the proof that Graeme H. demanded of me then refused to verify my research.

PERHAPS YOU WILL REALIZE YOUR OVERSTATEMENT AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE “EVIDENCE,” THAT ALL WERE LIES AND SPIN:
Graeme Henderson Re: The heat is on! Sat, Jun 13 2015, 3:50:42 pm
“I am also bemused by your claim that the "Evidence" is posted at the US Hawks, all that is there is lies and spin designed to fool the easily fooled.
I went, I looked, I had to shower afterwards though. What a cyber cesspool that web site is, they say that:
You can fool all of the people some of the time and that you can fool some of the people all of the time but that you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
Bob is after that middle group, the baby banana plants.”

In a call to Bob I told him that I was working on gathering your evidence which inspired him to put up a post that followed the high standard of independent resource links to the City of San Diego. I would call that a no spin zone except for the City’s attempts to hide from sight their wrong doing or completely ignoring people that call, “Foul.”

I scrapped my rough draft and went with Bob’s post since all evidentiary links
that he put up will take you to an outside source and:
“The source is impeccable.”
It is also reveals who the sources are and they do not reside in seclusion, hiding from Bob, in the penthouse of Rumor Central.
Quote - GH
“Re: police were summoned again Tue, May 19 2015, 2:21:44 pm
"And no, I shall not reveal the identity of my sources, -----"




Bob now follows GH's demand for evidence gathered outside the US Hawks:


San Diego Shenanigans

There has been some discussion about how the City of San Diego has protected the Torrey Pines Gliderport Concessionaire (David Jebb and now Robin Marien) from oversight. This topic exposes some of those actions.

Let's start with a step by step exposition of the City Council violating the terms of the 2007 CLEAN lawsuit settlement. Note that the links to the City of San Diego documents are given, but the appropriate sections from each document are also included below for your convenience.

STEP 1. Start with the San Diego City Charter, Article V, Section 43.

You can find the full document here:

http://docs.sandiego.gov/citycharter/Article%20V.pdf

Go to section 43 (currently page 16), and see that it defines "Advisory Boards and Committeees".
Read section 43(a) and convince yourself that it defines "Advisory Boards".
Read section 43(b) and convince yourself that it defines "Citizens' Committees".

STEP 2. Read the CLEAN Settlement Agreement from 2007.

You can find the full document here:

http://docs.sandiego.gov/council_reso_o ... 302749.pdf

Read the paragraph that starts on Page 1, and focus on sub-paragraph (4).
Convince yourself that the City of San Diego agreed to form an "Advisory Board".

STEP 3. Read what the City Council actually passed.

You can find the full document here:

http://docs.sandiego.gov/council_reso_o ... 303300.pdf

Read the paragraph on page 2 that starts with "BE IT RESOLVED".
Convince yourself that it establishes an "Advisory Board" under City Charter 43(b).

Remind yourself, that Advisory Boards can only be established under 43(a)!!!


Was this an "accident"? Why does it matter?

Re-read the City Charter sections 43(a) and 43(b). Note the key differences between Advisory Boards and Citizens Committees. In particular note that Citizen's Committees have very narrow scope and must terminate. Advisory Boards have no such restrictions. This wasn't done by "accident". Someone in the City INTENTIONALLY avoided 43(a) and INTENTIONALLY created the "Advisory Board" under 43(b).

That's how far the Torrey Pines Corruption has gone in San Diego.

These are the supporting quotes from the documents referenced above:

City Charter Article V, Section 43(a) wrote:
The City Council may by ordinance create and establish advisory boards. Such boards shall be advisory to the Mayor, Council or City Manager as may be designated by ordinance. All members of such boards shall be appointed by the Mayor with Council confirmation, and the terms of office of such members may extend beyond the elective term of the appointing Mayor. The members of such boards shall serve without compensation and it shall be their duty to consult and advise with the Mayor, Council or City Manager, as the case may be, but not to direct the conduct of any Department or Division. Members of such advisory boards shall be limited to a maximum of eight (8) consecutive years in office and an interval of four (4) years must pass before such persons can be reappointed.


City Charter Article V, Section 43(b) wrote:
The Mayor, City Council or City Manager may create and establish citizens’ committees. Such committees shall be created and established only for the purpose of advising on questions with clearly defined objectives, and shall be temporary in nature, and shall be dissolved upon the completion of the objectives for which they were created. Committee members shall serve without compensation.


CLEAN Settlement Agreement from June 27th, 2007 wrote:
WHEREAS, the settlement agreement requires the City to:

:

(4) Establish a Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board whose members shall be appointed within 120 days of the date of the agreement and who shall include representatives of the following Gliderport user groups: (1) paragliders, (2) hangliders, (3) sailplane gliders, and (4) radio-controlled model sailplane gliders as well as at least two representatives from non-profit environmental groups.


San Diego City Council Resolution R-303300 wrote:
BE IT RESOLVED, by the Council of the City of San Diego, that there is hereby established pursuant to City Charter section 43(b) a Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board to consist of eleven members who shall serve without compensation. The members shall serve for two year staggered terms. The members shall be appointed by the Mayor. The Board shall be composed of the following:

One at-large member;
One member from the San Diego Hangliding and Paragliding Association, to represent paragliders, and one member from the Torrey Hawks Hang Gliding Club who is also a member of the San Diego Hangliding and Paragliding Association, to represent hangliders.

[wingspan33]

Thanks for the relayed information Bill! When anyone has a "turn around" in their thinking (toward the positive/truth) that's a good thing. And for Ben to have posted that on the OZ Report is commendable. Hopefully, Straub won't take it down.

[JoeF]

Let's quote a Voight:

"Well…Here we are…. Having a “do-over” vote. The Original vote/ballot was determined to be flawed (missing required information)… so an entirely new vote has to be held…"

And now apply that logic to suggest a do-over regarding's the first vote regarding Bob by the director set. The original vote was deeply flawed; correct information was lacking; false information was running wild. So, that org could consider to get correct information, jettison faulty information. get pertinent missing information. Integrity. Do a "do-over" regarding the expulsion.

[Bob Kuczewski]

I think the world is about to start spinning off its axis:

Bille,

Thank you.

You are right in your observations about Bob's social skills back then.
He is a very opinionated and by the letter his way approach.

That was back then. I have found his principles to be more in agreement
with me than his methods. Having taken a 2nd look and spent allot of
time in personal contact with Bob, I must adjust my opinion of him.

This is very hard to do. But if you compare this to a person facing death
row and capitol punishment then you must be objective and really
understand the evidence and the persons motivations..

You must understand what they know and what they beleive they know?
This is not the same thing.

I believed I knew what Bob did and why he did it..
4 years later I find out what I knew was not correct.
4 years later I now beleive I understand the why; "Bob's motives."

Let me explain in terms you can understand more clearly.

Using Military special forces mind set.

Bob K. was a successful special forces combatant.
You were also.
I was also.
Logan R. was also..

If you beleive that a true public danger exists and you can secure
the safety of innocents, not combatants in war, but the public
you are sworn an oath to protect; would you get a bit difficult with
those who will not listen?

Would you be torn with duty vs the chain of command?

Carry this thought into the civilian world where the HG and PG participants
are of special interest to you.

You love this sport and the people in it.

You are no longer a military man in uniform. But the uniform is just
some cloth and buttons with fancy stripes if you worked really hard for
and put your arse on the line to pin up.

The suit hanges in your closet.
The experience hangs with you always..

Honestly I have found Bob K. to be reasonable and thoughtful.
Dedicated to his vision of a better HG .Org or restart of USHGA.

He wants transparency in voting records and time for public comment
before important votes.. He wants an oversight committee at Torrey,
to insure safety and compliance so the City and USHPA do not get tangled
up with low level issues.

This is just like Ft. Funston where the Fellow Feathers manages the site.
It is a club responsibility as The Original USHGA designed
this to work.

You don't want a commercial business running the ridge!!!
If your not convinced that does not work, how many more
deaths and law suits will it take?

Further an oversight committee is in the City of SD operations as
required and passed the full board! However ACA has resisted it!
How can this be allowed?

USHPA is allowing it!!!

Right between the eyes point blank!!

There is your target, not Bob K.
He wants to protect and serve, it's in his DNA.
He is not going to change how he feels..

Good news is he is listening and changing his methods.

Bob K. works right there at the Salk Institute. He used to carry
his glider on his shoulder to the Torrey launch site during an afternoon
break. He has been denied that for more than 4 years..

I did not take the time to understand all that he knew or why he was
so motivated. He deeply regrets not having made the changes that were
supposed to be made at Torrey. He blames himself in part for tradegies
at Torrey. He failed to make his mission a success..

This is not some violin solo in the middle of the concert we are listing to.
This is a mans story and it is not unlike yours or Logan's or mine.

I believed I was right when I shook the bushes at Ft. Funston. It was not
my desire to do that but they blamed me. It pissed off allot of people because
they did not beleive I was innocent. But once the fight starts you got to finish
it with the tools at your disposal. I used different tools than Bob, but I was
no less determined.

Bob's reasons and what he wanted to accomplish are sound!
I find no fault with them..

I admonish some of his methods.
The most agregious actions I accused him of were in error.
I lacked the credible evidence and proof..

Bob saw the wisdom and humility in seeking me out for a review.
That alone shows his maturity and true desire.

He did not expect me to take this much effort on his behalf.

To put it succinctly, he is blown away..
Some of my conclusions were denied him in his expulsion.

They were purposely ignored because expelling him got
ACA partly out of the dog house.. This is truth…

Bob has not sued USHPA, he could. He will not..

ACA is suing him.
Bob is counter suing ACA.

Bob will win, he was not prosecuted even after 3 arrests.

USHPA will not reinstate him until after the law suit is over.
It would make ACA look really bad.

However this is the right thing to do.

Thanks for reading this long post..


Ben R.

[Bill Cummings]

Way to go Davis. Removing the truth from the oz front page..JPG (36.67 KiB) Viewed 6304 times

Finally with the independent proof that the lies about Bob Kuczewski were in fact lies Davis/Scare (the moderators at the oz report)
move the truth to off Topic obscurity.

[Bill Cummings]

DOCUMENTING"
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Post Re: Bob Kuczewski's Expulsion Info Update Thu, Apr 18 2019, 9:45:59 pm
The USHPA sent to all members an email of a long list of supposed wrongs
to support the expulsion for life;
As Ben stepped, the points in the email also
were not well founded; that org would not let Bob send out a rebuttal.
It was just a big HIT and run. I lost all respect for that org at that time,
stopped my membership in protest, and continued
to fly HGs with zero deference to that org.
That org owes Bob big and just review and retraction.
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Post Re: Bob Kuczewski's Expulsion Info Update Thu, Apr 18 2019, 10:04:22 pm
Thanks Joe for reminding us.

Bob K. did prepare a response to these accusations.
He asked if he could have these responses sent out to the membership?

He was declined a fair and honorable rebuttal.

No doubt the correspondence I list above would have been disclosed.
Some of our leaders knew of this evidence but would not allow a forum
for its disclosure.. Private forums also banned him and others for speaking
out and attempting to bring this evidence into the light of day.

I am mortally ashamed by this and my own judgement being manipulated
by incomplete information. Other concerned pilots would also have this
reaction if they knew all the details I now beleive with evidence to be true.

All of this is now history so it should be disclosed and reviewed so nothing
like this ever happens again.

I hope whatever type of BOD we have after this Reform vote, takes a new look
at Bob's expulsion, then makes a more informed determination…

At the very least, a pathway should be outlined for him to return as a pilot
and enjoy the sport of HG.

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Post Re: Bob Kuczewski's Expulsion Info Update Fri, Apr 19 2019, 9:43:16 pm
"Quote from Davis"

Sat, Apr 20 2019, 4:10:44 am
""I have actually attended a number of BOD meetings. I have actually been elected to the BOD.
The current structure of the committees and the BOD means that the Representatives send four
days a year working on and discussing USHPA policies.""

https://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... c&start=10


Davis,

Is this from the past?

Or are you currently elected to the BOD?

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Post Re: Bob Kuczewski's Expulsion Info Update Sat, Apr 20 2019, 4:47:05 am
The past.
Davis Straub
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Post Re: Bob Kuczewski's Expulsion Info Update Sat, Apr 20 2019, 8:24:47 am
Davis,

Thanks for clarifying that..

The reason I asked this question here, is that your experience makes a good benchmark
to ask an even more important question.

Please put on your BOD hat..

Using my presentation of evidence which seems contrary to the reputation
and true actions of Bob K. involving USHPA and any evidence you may now know.

Would you be compelled to review the status of Bob's expulsion?

If this evidence holds up as contrary to the actions of the BOD,
could you support re-instatement of his flight prevlidges under USHPA?

This would be after a professional peer review.

Thanks for your reply..


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Post Re: Bob Kuczewski's Expulsion Info Update Sat, Apr 20 2019, 10:42:58 am
I saw BK in action at the BOD. I would have shot him.
Davis Straub
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Post Re: Bob Kuczewski's Expulsion Info Update Sat, Apr 20 2019, 6:15:28 pm
(quoting entire message by Davis, right above)

Hah! Succinct and to the point! I like it. Almost makes me regret voting No on the 2nd governance proposal.
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Post Re: Bob Kuczewski's Expulsion Info Update Sat, Apr 20 2019, 8:37:16 pm
Well, Nice replies, I really mean that..

This is an example of too few people having too much power..

A text book example…

You can expect more of this if the Governance Reform passes.
For those of you who still care???

However Davis,

Your joking right??

Otherwise your following some of my very own bad examples..

Past ones anyway…


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Post Re: Bob Kuczewski's Expulsion Info Update Sun, Apr 21 2019, 6:35:57 am
Davis:
I saw BK in action at the BOD.
…

I saw BK in action on HG.org. , Oz , and the CSS forums ; A singular
one-sided, and unrealistic view-point , on how things should be run.
AND
the Schmuck got kicked off , ((ALL 3)) forums ------- is that a Record ?

Bille

[Bob Kuczewski]

Way to go Davis. Removing the truth from the oz front page..

Finally with the independent proof that the lies about Bob Kuczewski were in fact lies Davis/Scare (the moderators at the oz report) move the truth to off Topic obscurity.

I'm sorry Bill, but you should know by now that ...
... the truth is literally considered "off topic" at the Oz Forum.

[Bill Cummings]

After close review of the third party evidence that even Ben Reese now recognizes as the truth I have this to say about the OZ REPORT INDEX: Neither of the moderators nor both of them will allow the truth to interfere with their point of view when it comes to the truth being seen on their front page and when it is about Bob Kuczewski.
I have noticed some let up by the people that once cried, “lies!” Now it’s more so piling on about your methodology. This leads me to believe they know they were wrong. They lack the courage that Ben Reese has displayed.
EDIT: This is my opinion.

[Bill Cummings]

Ben Reese just put up another thread:
I HAD A DREAM, USPA USHGA USHPA.
Two posts with 100% truthfulness.
Ben is a slow learner. His earlier thread:
BOB KUCZEWSKI'S EXPULSION INFO UPDATE.
With 100% truthfulness it ended up in the OFF TOPIC (BASEMENT)
What was he thinking?
Was he thinking that this latest post will NOT be found in the basement?
My wife won't let me do it but I wanted to anchor his latest
thread to the front page of the oz report like this:
"BOB KUCZEWSKI IS THE WORST THING TO HAPPEN TO HG."
See what I did there? That would have tethered Ben's post to
the front page of the oz report and preserved the greatest viewership.
Now I'm wondering if Ben uses safety tethers to his flight
deck and radio. What was he thinking?