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 Post subject: Tooele Hawks Forum
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:05 pm 
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Welcome to the Tooele Hawks Forum!!

This forum is for general discussions related to the Tooele Hawks and their local flying sites.

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 Post subject: Tooele ... what is in the name?
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Soaring at Stockton Barby Tim Gillie
Aug 04, 2009

See the other related articles at the bottom of the reached page.
AND:
==The Stockton Bar, a Geologic Treasure in Tooele County\

== All together now: Save the Stockton Bar!
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Keywords and phrases and some links:

Tooele County (Utah)
"The Great Bar at Stockton" (Utah)
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Jerry Worsencroft
Tooele Hawks is a chapter of US Hawks HGA
Tooele Hawks is a chapter of HGAusa
http://geology.utah.gov/surveynotes/geo ... tonbar.jpg
Stockton, Utah wiki
Stockton, Utah official website of the town
Commodore: site wiki
Note in CSS on flying the Stockton Bar: http://www.crestlinesoaring.org/forum/20070810/913

Disambiguations: The "bar" here is a geologic formation, not a piece of furniture.
Distinguish Stockton, Utah, from Stockton, California.


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The geologic treasure in Utah: The Stockton Bar
"The Great Bar at Stockton, Utah,"
G.K. Gilbert, in Lake Bonneville, U.S. Geological Survey Monograph 1 (1890).


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The Stockton Bar is a great site because you can fly either the north side or the south side. It's also great for top landing since it's so flat everywhere.

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Does someone know how to put up a Google Earth link that will zoom into the Bar area?


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 Post subject: Re: Tooele Hawks Forum
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:18 pm 
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I don't know how to embed that kind of a link, but here are some manual zooms that show the bar and its location relative to Salt Lake City:

This first picture shows the bar itself. It runs mostly east and west, and it has a north face and a south face. The north face is much steeper, and I think that's the most common flying side because it's higher. I think it would take quite a wind from the south to fly that side.
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This picture shows a zoomed out version with the bar right in the center: You can see the town of Stockton to the southeast of the bar itself.
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This map shows the location of Stockton relative to Tooele ( Home of the world-famous Tooele Hawks!! ).
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This last map shows the location of Tooele relative to Salt Lake City:
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I hope that helps you navigate to the bar using any other software you have. :)

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Thanks Bob.
I’m thinking strongly about following Utah’s hwy 6 to Spanish Fork where it connects to Utah Interstate 15, just to the southeast of Utah Lake.

This is my usual route from Las Cruces, NM to Chelan, Washington.
I used to stop and hang glide at South Face Point of the Mountain, Utah.

I once towed up on the north bench before there were any houses. Now there is a whole town on the bench.

I quit going once I flew into a flying box canyon of paragliders at South Face. :wtf:

With eight or nine PG’s kiting on the rim and several flying north in a row I was over taking a PG’er ahead of me and flying south. I couldn’t get over, I couldn’t get under, I couldn’t go right and land, and I couldn’t turn out and around in front of the PG’ers flying north. I had to dive down hill and skim the ground and go under the PG’ers going north to avoid the PG pilot I was overtaking. I landed and decided to “bag it and drag it,” and never fly there again. I used to love it there. :cry:

I’m thinking that the Stockton Bar on the south face would have early morning south winds due to the Great Salt Lake that causes the early morning south winds at Point of the Mountain.

The big lake heats up all day and lifts off all night and into the following morning drawing the wind out of the south toward the lake.

Now all I have to find out is ---is it also crowded at the Stockton Bar? If not I may stop by during the last few days of June.

So Tooele Hawks---What is the traffic like on the Bar? :?:

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billcummings wrote:
I quit going once I flew into a flying box canyon of paragliders at South Face. :wtf:

My experience on the south side is that the flock of paragliders show up at the crack of dawn and fly until they get blown out (maybe a few hours?). Then as the day gets stronger, they suddenly vanish and the hang gliders take to the air with no conflict. I don't know if that happens every day at all times of the year, but it was a pretty regular pattern during my visits.

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I’m thinking that the Stockton Bar on the south face would have early morning south winds due to the Great Salt Lake that causes the early morning south winds at Point of the Mountain.

I think that's the pattern there also, but remember that the south side of the bar is much more shallow than the north side. It makes a good training hill in a south wind, but it has to be pretty strong to stay up.

billcummings wrote:
So Tooele Hawks---What is the traffic like on the Bar? :?:

From my experience, you're likely to have it all to yourself!!

Also, I'll give you a call to pass along some local contacts for your trip. :thumbup:

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Thanks Bob, I got in touch with Sharon.
As soon as I find out where the Sky Dogs are going to flock to this summer I'll know if I will be stopping in to fly the Stockton Bar.


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Very Cool Bill!!!

I hope you get to stop in and fly. Jerry and Sharon are great folks, and it's a really fun site.

Be sure to take some pictures and post them!!!

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