Davis Straub; Idiot Statist, Endless Wars & Tyranny

[Free]

Why is Davis not on this forum?

He's a coward, comes to mind..

Welcome back, Rodger!
Glad you stuck around!

Davis doesn't cave to commercial interests. If the new WW glider sucks, he says so.

I've never seen that happen.

Davis doesn't cave to the massive paragliding industry wallet.

I'm betting the massive paragliding industry wallet has never tested your theory.

Davis's OZ Report gave me a hang gliding news alternative to the USHPA propaganda when I boycotted the association.

A low bar of accomplishment.

Davis does have a HUGE political slant. His reporting is NOT inbiased. Nor does it have to be. The OZ Report is HIS blog.

The Oz Report is a commercial money making publication. That pushes the needle to the right of a blog.
Davis Straub, calls himself a "journalist" but can't be bothered with all those pesky journalistic integrity rules.
Davis is politically slanted, he is not unbiased and Davis is dishonest when he calls himself a journalist.

Did you notice that this thread was over 3 years old and revived from page 11, thanks to Bob?
The original title was Davis Straub, Idiot Savant.. but I thought that gave him too much credit.
Davis Straub is a New York Times mockingbird statist. Davis really has a thing for idiot Paul Krugman.
Davis likes to use the term "idiot" a lot when he is unable to win intellectual debate. Hence the title change from 'savant'.

Davis Straub is an elitist that would sell his soul (if he still had one) to the massive paragliding industry wallet, if only they offered.

He is free to say black is white - or in the case of his global warming obsession, cold is hot.

As are we ALL are supposed to be able to do.
The sad truth, controlling sociopathic socialists like Davis Straub, are now suggesting 'imprisonment, re-education and even death' for those that don't care for global enslavement to CO2 czar trillion-airs.

Pay billions to Al Gore and he will promise you that Denver Colorado will not be under sea water in 500 years. Good deal!
I'm almost certain that Davis Straub, is an atheist, but the scientific sell out and demonization of CO2 is a religion to him.
As it is to almost everyone else that 'believes' it.

Believers:
Davis Straub
Tad Eareckson
Rick Masters

[Bob Kuczewski]

Pay billions to Al Gore and he will promise you that Denver Colorado will not be under sea water in 500 years. Good deal!
I'm almost certain that Davis Straub, is an atheist, but the scientific sell out and demonization of CO2 is a religion to him.
As it is to almost everyone else that 'believes' it.

Believers:
Davis Straub
Tad Eareckson
Rick Masters

I generally don't like to get into political discussions here because whatever my opinion is, it's bound to alienate someone. We've got a small enough group as it is, so alienating people is not something we need to do.

Having said that, I'd like to offer my opinion in the hopes that it might show that both sides of the global warming debate are correct to some degree.

First off, we all know that burning fossil fuel emits carbon dioxide. And we all know that most of the fossil fuel that we're burning comes from the ground and would not likely be burning without human intervention. So there's no doubt that we're putting more carbon dioxide into the air than was there just before mankind learned to play with fire.

But that doesn't mean that we're putting more carbon dioxide into the air than was ever there before. After all, where do we get the fossil fuels to burn? Don't they come from fossils? So prior to the fossilization process, wasn't all that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere anyway?

My main point is that our atmosphere is like a down tube (I'll bet you didn't see that coming). A downtube can suffer two kinds of deformation: elastic and inelastic. An elastic deformation is a minor flexing that leaves the tube unaffected when you remove the force. In other words, it bounces back to its original condition. An inelastic deformation is a major flexing that causes permanent damage to the metal (including breakage). A down tube won't bounce back from an inelastic deformation. In some cases it can be forced back, but that's yet another inelastic deformation and each of them further weakens the metal.

So the real question about global warming isn't so much whether we're bending the down tube - we know we're bending it. The question is whether we're bending it to the point of breaking. It's hard for me to know if that's the case except to point to the likelihood that most (if not all) of the carbon dioxide we're putting into the atmosphere comes from previously living matter that had likely gotten it from the atmosphere. If that's the case (please let me know if it's not), then until we literally run out of things to burn, we're likely still in the elastic range of that system (since our current state came from that prior state).

There, now both sides can flee the US Hawks because I've demonstrated that I both believe that we're experiencing global warming (a clearly flaming leftist) and I'm simultaneously in denial of its consequences (an obvious right-wing neocon).

[Free]

I generally don't like to get into political discussions here because whatever my opinion is, it's bound to alienate someone. We've got a small enough group as it is, so alienating people is not something we need to do.

Bob, have you read the subject line? It's all about alienation.
Us against them.
Now you give me a warning?
Don't you think it's a little too late?

Besides, your premise of alienation is incorrect, which brings up other unfinished discussions.
This argument is a distraction.

Having said that, ....

skip, skip, skip, (so much better that writing bla, bla, bla as you have done)

.. So the real question about global warming isn't so much whether we're bending the down tube - we know we're bending it.

Crazy talk. Skip, skip

and I'm simultaneously in denial of its consequences (an obvious right-wing neocon).

Ok, here you seem to be calling me "an obvious right-wing neocon" and I sense that you do so in a pejorative manor.
Calling me a neocon is fighting words.
Are you trying to alienate me?

[Free]

[Rick Masters]

Believers...

I have no idea what you are talking about.

[Free]

Believers...

I have no idea what you are talking about.

It was a list of similar people in thinking that CO2 is a crime.
It was whimsical juxtaposition.
You are an artist. I thought you would get it.

[Bob Kuczewski]

and I'm simultaneously in denial of its consequences (an obvious right-wing neocon).

Ok, here you seem to be calling me "an obvious right-wing neocon" and I sense that you do so in a pejorative manor.
Calling me a neocon is fighting words.
Are you trying to alienate me?

No Free, I'm not trying to alienate you and I'm not calling you anything. If you read my full comment, you'll see that I was poking fun at myself for seemingly taking both sides of the issue. Here's my full quote where I only use "I" and never "you".

There, now both sides can flee the US Hawks because I've demonstrated that I both believe that we're experiencing global warming (a clearly flaming leftist) and I'm simultaneously in denial of its consequences (an obvious right-wing neocon).

I am concerned that you would take that as anything negative toward you. I am also concerned (as Rick mentioned) that you've casually listed him in your "Believers" list with no basis that I've seen. Your "whimsical juxtaposition" excuse doesn't make any sense to me.

Warren, as I've said to Tad, I think you have a lot to offer to this forum and to the sport of hang gliding. But you are letting your fears get the best of you and it is alienating good people who might otherwise agree with you. Please give that some thought because I'd really like to see you participating in a healthy way on this forum.

[Rick Masters]

You are an artist.

I think of myself as a citizen-scientist in the tradition of Thomas Jefferson. When evidence fails, I revert to faith in momentum.
http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/
http://www.suspicious0bservers.org/

[Free]

I think of myself as a citizen-scientist in the tradition of Thomas Jefferson.

Did Thomas Jefferson play 12 string guitar and write songs about the earth dying from trace gas CO2 at 0.04% atmosphere?
He was very creative/artistic but the question is, did you feel uncomfortably alienated by the juxtaposition of things alike?
You, Tad and Davis.

Tad didn't like it but I don't believe he felt alienated. And it's not like he never was alienated.
Tad is about the most alienated pilot I know. I'm not taking responsibility for that.

Davis hasn't registered his feelings.

When evidence fails, I revert to faith in momentum.

Well at least you are honest. That was my whole point.
The evidence has failed and now it's your religion.
CO2 is the boogeyman at 0.04% of the atmosphere.
Al Gore is a Priest that you pay penance,
in order to keep the Sun from eating the Earth.
What will he ask of you next?

[Rick Masters]

It's hard to converse with a zealot.