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Jack Axaopoulos alias "sg"

Postby JoeF » Thu May 19, 2016 7:42 pm

Jack Axaopoulos alias "sg"

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Jack's heavy-hand rule over his forum reveals a huge rift in hang gliding online discussion opportunity. Jack wants to be "part of this community" which he carves out a huge faction of people and dubs them "poison" to the sport of hang gliding; he makes such his official rule. Jack Axaopoulos alias "sg" Participants in his forum must always face the possibility that they themselves may be titled "poison" at any turn by Jack. Jack has programmed certain words and links to be converted to derogatory non-linking phrases; this prevents his forum participants from freely sharing information about hang gliding. Jack has proven to be a thought-controller by his rules. Yet he uses "please" in "Please treat the admin as a regular user." There is no logical way for a sound participant to treat the admin Jack A. as "regular user" when guillotine ax is ever near Jack's hand and keyboard.
The story about how Jack A. treated a trust regarding Torrey Hawks has been written in the USHawks forum someplace:
_______________________________________ Careful study of the actions involved would bring important data to those who are participating in Jack's forum.
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Re: Jack Axaopoulos alias "sg"

Postby JoeF » Thu May 19, 2016 7:57 pm

A complete history of Jack A. in hang gliding is invited by authors for this topic thread. Care to stay with referenced published material. A timeline might be a good tool.

Here is a start of some links that face Jack's hang gliding world story:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=89
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Re: Jack Axaopoulos

Postby Rick Masters » Thu May 19, 2016 8:16 pm

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Re: Jack Axaopoulos alias "sg"

Postby eagle » Thu May 19, 2016 9:24 pm

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Re: Jack Axaopoulos

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Fri May 20, 2016 12:29 pm

JoeF wrote:Jack Axaopoulos alias "sg"

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Jack's heavy-hand rule over his forum reveals a huge rift in hang gliding online discussion opportunity.
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There is no logical way for a sound participant to treat the admin Jack A. as "regular user" when guillotine ax is ever near Jack's hand and keyboard.
The story about how Jack A. treated a trust regarding Torrey Hawks has been written in the USHawks forum ...


Jack's dominant control of the hang gliding community has contributed significantly to the dysfunctional situation we have today. USHPA gets away with many abuses because Jack has silenced those who would object.
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Re: Jack Axaopoulos alias "sg"

Postby dhmartens » Thu May 26, 2016 11:54 pm

In the style of Tad Eareckson I would like to know who the fu*k is Jack Axaopoulos?


any photo, facebook, linkden, would be helpful.
who is this guy?
Is he another Scientologist? I thought so

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Re: Jack Axaopoulos alias "sg"

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:25 am

From: http://forum.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=35938

Jack Axaopoulos (alias sg) wrote:RE: HEADLINE NEWS: PG SAVED THE UNITED STATES HANG GLIDING ASSOCIATION

By sg-  Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:26 am

The title is misleading. USHPA is not a Hang Gliding organization. PG did not save a hang gliding organization. PG saved a SPORT flying organization. 

If a new type of wing came out that was even easier to get into than PG, there would be no PG loyalty at ushpa. Its not a PG organization either. 

They want membership numbers and could care less if they are HG, PG or whatever.

Hg pilots need to stop assuming they have a hang gliding organization. They simply dont. If you want an organization that actually cares about hang gliding thriving specifically, then someone needs to start one.
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Re: Jack Axaopoulos

Postby wingspan33 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:52 pm

Jack Axaopoulos (alias sg) wrote:RE: HEADLINE NEWS: PG SAVED THE UNITED STATES HANG GLIDING ASSOCIATION

By sg-  Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:26 am

. . . [Hang glider] pilots need to stop assuming they have a hang gliding organization. They simply dont. If you want an organization that actually cares about hang gliding thriving specifically, then someone needs to start one.


I think that's the closest Jack the Ax (over there on SG-Egoville) will come to telling pilots to come on over to the US HAWKS! :thumbup:
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Re: Jack Axaopoulos alias "sg"

Postby JoeF » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:00 pm

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Re: Jack Axaopoulos alias "sg"

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:11 pm

JoeF wrote:A complete history of Jack A. in hang gliding is invited by authors for this topic thread.

A complete history will likely be difficult, but In the category of "Funny if not so sad",
here's a double quote from Jack Axaopoulos ("sg") and one of his sidekicks just today.

John Borton (aka "BubbleBoy") posted this sarcastic reply to the "A BASIC TRAINER DESIGN FOR TEACHING HANG GLIDING" topic:

By BubbleBoy

-  Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:27 am#405843

Yeah ... let's promote the consideration of hang gliding an exclusive "we're special and you're not" group and reject any attempt to make learning easier.

That'll help.

JB


Jack Axaopoulos replied:

Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:33 pm#405844

This sport is full of ENTRY BARRIERS.

Anything that lowers entry barriers, IS A GREAT IDEA. 

Entry barriers need to be systematically addressed across the sport of hanggliding at every level possible.

Wasn't it the "Jack Axaopoulos / John Borton" team who created and managed the "we're special and you're not" group formerly known as the HGAA? Didn't they both participate in banning so many pilots that it eventually imploded?

And isn't it Jack Axaopoulos who's created "barriers to entry" for a long list of pilots by kicking them out of his "living room" and supporting USHPA's "retaliation by exclusion" policy?
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