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Postby eagle » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:25 pm

What do you think Rick Masters
I'm not against Paramotors flying, if one accepts the risks
I am opposed to one sport controlling another for profit

We have allowed a few to commercialized our sport
all the way to the recreational level

Definitely Part of the Growing Problem
See Video: https://youtu.be/NZZXfM1f9sM

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Risk is something that is rarely talked about
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Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby Rick Masters » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:12 pm

In paraglider people flocking to paramotors today, I think we are witnessing a parallel evolution to hang glider pilots flocking to ultralights in the 1980s.
We lost a lot of hang glider pilots, many of our best, in those days and the losses rippled down the years to the present.
When you lose key people in your sport, the guiding lights, the sport suffers.
It happened to hang gliding and it was bad.
Now it's happening to paragliding.
About one paramotorist killed a month, that I know of.
One paramotorist for every 9 paraglider pilots, right now.
I haven't been paying that much attention, so it's gotta be higher.
Motors.
I don't like them.
Hanging them in weightshift hang gliders seems to be a bad idea.
Hanging them on paragliders is insane.
That's my opinion.
I'm not going to stop anyone from doing whatever they want.
I might try to talk them out of it and give my reasons.
If I could find anyone who would listen.
Otherwise, I'll just keep track.
There's a lot more money in paramotors than in paragliders.
So stand back...
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Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby Rick Masters » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:37 pm

Surfing    September 7, 2017
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Zander Venezia, a native of Barbados, reportedly fell off his board and hit a shallow reef at a beach called Box by Box, it said. He and other surfers were riding a swell generated by the Category Five hurricane. Venezia won the Rip Curl Grom Search in the Outer Banks in North Carolina in mid-August, and in April he won the National Scholastic Surfing Association regional championships.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pro-teen-surfer-dies-barbados-catching-irma-wave-071523864.html
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Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby Rick Masters » Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:49 pm

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Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby Rick Masters » Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:15 pm

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Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby Rick Masters » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:26 pm

Paragliding    August 27, 2017
https://www.nnov.kp.ru/video/embed/618628
This guy died.
Could you end up like this on a hang glider?
Kinda hard to imagine...
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Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby Rick Masters » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:54 pm

The paragliding death list

Since May 14, 2017, I have been engaged on reviewing and verifying an international paragliding death list, dating back to 1986.
This is a project I began in 2009. It documents in succinct detail the circumstances of each fatal paragliding accident, where available.
Today I have completed the most thorough revision yet, yielding a very likely incomplete total of
                                1,634
verified non-powered paragliding fatalities.
The message is clear. Most fatalities stem from an initial collapse. The majority of those killed are highly experienced.
Unlike the hang glider, the low-mass and flaccid paraglider will try to kill its operator in encounters with pockets of descending air (turbulence).
https://www.izlesene.com/embedplayer/7064562
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Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby JoeF » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:19 pm

After power fails, is it PG or still PPG?
FL Firefighter Electrocuted in Paragliding Crash
Video Sep 27, 2017

He seems to have lived through the experience.
Study the news commentary. Those freak accidents!
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Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby wingspan33 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:54 pm

As Joe points out above, not all paraglider (or PPG) occupants are killed in a "crash". Some percentage, however, are left with permanent and significant injuries.

A question that may not have a verifiable answer is -

If over 1,600 paraglider occupants have been killed since 1986, how many have suffered long term significant injuries as a result of nonfatal accidents?

My guess would be that over 10x the fatality rate may be a close figure. What do you think Rick?
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Re: Other dangerous sports news

Postby Rick Masters » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:09 pm

After power fails, is it PG or still PPG?

PPG. A paraglider with an anvil on it.
10x the fatality rate

I mostly look for broken backs, head injuries (despite helmets), internal injuries and broken femurs (the strongest bone in the human body).
Because I have passed over so many other significant injuries - multiple fractures, lower leg and forearm, ankle, wrist, etc. - I haven't come to a firm number.
It is near 10x, however. More or less.
With fatalities, you can be pretty sure it was a paraglider who got killed because the authorities usually recover the body.
But many lesser injuries have been staged with bicycles, cars, rock climbing and tree falls for insurance purposes, so it becomes more difficult.
Compounding this is the European "right to privacy" laws which in recent years result in less information on injuries and identity being released from the most notorious areas.
I am confident, however, that paragliding without question has become the bloodiest aerial sport in history, as well as the worst ever in absolute terms of rescue,medical costs and economic losses of future earnings among college-trained professionals.
Nothing else comes remotely close.
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