President Trump

A place for discussions that are NOT related to the US Hawks. This area is provided for the convenience of our members, but the US Hawks specifically does not endorse any comments posted in these forums.
Forum rules
Be Polite!!

This forum is for discussions that are NOT related to the US Hawks. This area is provided for the convenience of our members, but the US Hawks specifically does not endorse any comments posted in this forum.

Re: President Trump

Postby brianscharp » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:47 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGt9xipvkrs

Rudy is awesome.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... eard-tapes
Image
When BuzzFeed reported on Friday that Donald Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about the proposed Trump Tower Moscow project, the news outlet pointed to some documented evidence. According to the report, Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office has “internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents” that bolster the allegation.

Mueller’s team, of course, later denied the accuracy of the report, though BuzzFeed continues to stand by it.

Yesterday, Rudy Giuliani told the New Yorker’s Isaac Chotiner that he knew the moment he saw the BuzzFeed article that it wasn’t true. Asked why, the president’s lawyer said, “Because I have been through all the tapes.” It led to a rather striking exchange:

NEW YORKER: Wait, what tapes have you gone through?

GIULIANI: I shouldn’t have said tapes. They alleged there were texts and e-mails that corroborated that Cohen was saying the President told him to lie. There were no texts, there were no e-mails, and the President never told him to lie.

NEW YORKER So, there were no tapes you listened to, though?

GIULIANI: No tapes. Well, I have listened to tapes, but none of them concern this.

Got it. Giuliani has been through the tapes, which don’t exist, except for the ones that do. Donald Trump can obviously take comfort in the fact that he’s hired the best legal representation that money can buy.

The chemicals in Rudy's food are allowing him to play ninth dimensional chess.
User avatar
brianscharp
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 304
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:49 pm

Re: President Trump

Postby Free » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:47 pm

brianscharp wrote:
Free wrote:Also, the chemicals in your food and water are making you stupid.
You don't want to believe me on that either, do you?

How could I? Do you know something I don't, about my well?


I know things you are too programmed to investigate. You are too afraid of the truth that you have been dumbed down to research for yourself what I have been concerned enough to warn you about. You can't be helped if you won't make an effort on your part to learn the truth.



The Clinton crime cabal and their deep state minions never had a clue that Trump could win, especially with all the vote rigging, so the
"Russia collusion" was their last/best hope of keeping their crimes covered up to keep themselves out of prison. They've actually gone beyond prison terms in their treason to the country.
They've dumbed the people down so much they almost got away with it. Poor Brian doesn't have a clue but he can never admit he was duped into believing up was down and Hillary was the best and somehow got cheated.
The Russians didn't elect Donald Trump!
Americans with their eyes opened did.

Nah, Hillary's no saint and I saw how many people voted for him.

Brian, I remember you writing something about the world was coming to an end that Hillary didn't win. Did you write in Bernie, after Hillary stole the primary?

He may be your last/best hope, but certainly not mine.

That's because you don't know what you don't know. See above.

I think he's guilty of money laundering, tax evasion and conspiracy to commit fraud, to name just a few.

And this is based on your gut feeling/wishful thinking/brainwashed programming because you have no proof or real information to back up your proclamation.

I don't think he'll finish this term, but I could be wrong and for sure, have been in the past.

You are wrong on most everything you believe because .. see above.
You aren't able to even look at scientific evidence of gay frogs. It's more than just being dumbed down by the fluoride you've ingested your whole life, not to mention the myriad other chemicals that dumbs you down. You won't even look at the evidence when someone points it out for your own good. We're all being poisoned. I'm not immune but I resist as much as I can. I take steps to mitigate as much as I can and I try to warn people as best as I can.
I'm sorry that it falls on deaf ears. A lot of people may be too far gone. I was hoping you were not one of those.
It's never too late to wake up as long as you still have a few brain cells still working.
Do it if/while you can.
Stop with the fluoridated koolaid kid.
I'm trying to help you here.
User avatar
Free
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 1084
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:47 pm

Re: President Trump

Postby brianscharp » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:31 am

Stop with the fluoridated koolaid kid.

Are you suggesting someone has been putting fluoride in my well water?
User avatar
brianscharp
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 304
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:49 pm

Re: President Trump

Postby brianscharp » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:00 am

Meet Mueller's future gymnast.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper ... pdf#page=1
On or about April 9, 2018, STONE wrote in an email to Person 2, “You are a rat.
A stoolie. You backstab your friends-run your mouth my lawyers are dying Rip
you to shreds.” STONE also said he would “take that dog away from you,”
referring to Person 2’s dog. On or about the same day, STONE wrote to Person 2,
“I am so ready. Let’s get it on. Prepare to die [expletive].”

Maybe there is something to that witch hunt narrative. :)
User avatar
brianscharp
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 304
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:49 pm

Re: President Trump

Postby Free » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:27 pm

brianscharp wrote:
Stop with the fluoridated koolaid kid.

Are you suggesting someone has been putting fluoride in my well water?


Mass fluoridation is only a fractional part of the dumbing down of the populace.
Your symptoms are likely from a myriad of sources, as I previously stated.
Plus the brainwashing.
Kudos if you are not being poisoned on the massive scale of public water systems.
Do you always bring your well water when you travel or at work? Have you tested your well water
for runoff leaching? The gay frog causing Atrazine has been found in well water, among other toxins,
so don't assume anything without knowing for sure.
There undoubtedly are many factors that could contribute to your Trump Derangement Syndrome.
User avatar
Free
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 1084
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:47 pm

Re: President Trump

Postby brianscharp » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:09 am

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... ument.html
Read the Mueller Report: Searchable Document and Index
User avatar
brianscharp
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 304
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:49 pm

Re: President Trump

Postby Free » Thu May 02, 2019 6:18 pm

brianscharp wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-document.html
Read the Mueller Report: Searchable Document and Index

Brian, have you got to the second page yet, where the fat lady sings?
No collusion. No obstruction.
User avatar
Free
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 1084
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:47 pm

Re: President Trump

Postby brianscharp » Sat May 04, 2019 11:09 am

Brian, have you got to the second page yet, where the fat lady sings?
No collusion. No obstruction.

https://twitter.com/HouseJudiciary/stat ... 8960172033
Letter from Special Counsel Robert Mueller to Attorney General Barr.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... veals-an-u
The White House’s latest attack on Mueller reveals an ugly truth about Trump
Mark Rozell wrote: Because Mueller chose to follow OLC guidance, he was constrained in the conclusions he could draw. He therefore carefully documented evidence which would allow the legislative branch to take action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ehDZUCnIY
User avatar
brianscharp
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 304
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:49 pm

Re: President Trump

Postby brianscharp » Mon May 06, 2019 10:07 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vilil6zkxxs
Donald Trump: White Nationalist Terrorism Denier
User avatar
brianscharp
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 304
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:49 pm

Re: President Trump

Postby brianscharp » Mon May 06, 2019 1:08 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... ith-obstru
National Security
Trump would have been charged with obstruction were he not president, hundreds of former federal prosecutors assert
More than 370 former federal prosecutors who worked in Republican and Democratic administrations have signed on to a statement asserting special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s findings would have produced obstruction charges against President Trump — if not for the office he held.

The statement — signed by myriad former career government employees as well as high-profile political appointees — offers a rebuttal to Attorney General William P. Barr’s determination that the evidence Mueller uncovered was “not sufficient” to establish that Trump committed a crime.

Mueller had declined to say one way or the other whether Trump should have been charged, citing a Justice Department legal opinion that sitting presidents cannot be indicted, as well as concerns about the fairness of accusing someone for whom there can be no court proceeding.

https://medium.com/@dojalumni/statement ... b7691c2aa1
STATEMENT BY FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTORS
Go to the profile of DOJ Alumni Statement
DOJ Alumni Statement
May 6
We are former federal prosecutors. We served under both Republican and Democratic administrations at different levels of the federal system: as line attorneys, supervisors, special prosecutors, United States Attorneys, and senior officials at the Department of Justice. The offices in which we served were small, medium, and large; urban, suburban, and rural; and located in all parts of our country.

Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice.

The Mueller report describes several acts that satisfy all of the elements for an obstruction charge: conduct that obstructed or attempted to obstruct the truth-finding process, as to which the evidence of corrupt intent and connection to pending proceedings is overwhelming. These include:

· The President’s efforts to fire Mueller and to falsify evidence about that effort;

· The President’s efforts to limit the scope of Mueller’s investigation to exclude his conduct; and

· The President’s efforts to prevent witnesses from cooperating with investigators probing him and his campaign.

Attempts to fire Mueller and then create false evidence

Despite being advised by then-White House Counsel Don McGahn that he could face legal jeopardy for doing so, Trump directed McGahn on multiple occasions to fire Mueller or to gin up false conflicts of interest as a pretext for getting rid of the Special Counsel. When these acts began to come into public view, Trump made “repeated efforts to have McGahn deny the story” — going so far as to tell McGahn to write a letter “for our files” falsely denying that Trump had directed Mueller’s termination.

Firing Mueller would have seriously impeded the investigation of the President and his associates — obstruction in its most literal sense. Directing the creation of false government records in order to prevent or discredit truthful testimony is similarly unlawful. The Special Counsel’s report states: “Substantial evidence indicates that in repeatedly urging McGahn to dispute that he was ordered to have the Special Counsel terminated, the President acted for the purpose of influencing McGahn’s account in order to deflect or prevent scrutiny of the President’s conduct toward the investigation.”

Attempts to limit the Mueller investigation

The report describes multiple efforts by the president to curtail the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation.

First, the President repeatedly pressured then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to reverse his legally-mandated decision to recuse himself from the investigation. The President’s stated reason was that he wanted an attorney general who would “protect” him, including from the Special Counsel investigation. He also directed then-White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus to fire Sessions and Priebus refused.

Second, after McGahn told the President that he could not contact Sessions himself to discuss the investigation, Trump went outside the White House, instructing his former campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, to carry a demand to Sessions to direct Mueller to confine his investigation to future elections. Lewandowski tried and failed to contact Sessions in private. After a second meeting with Trump, Lewandowski passed Trump’s message to senior White House official Rick Dearborn, who Lewandowski thought would be a better messenger because of his prior relationship with Sessions. Dearborn did not pass along Trump’s message.

As the report explains, “[s]ubstantial evidence indicates that the President’s effort to have Sessions limit the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation to future election interference was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct” — in other words, the President employed a private citizen to try to get the Attorney General to limit the scope of an ongoing investigation into the President and his associates.

All of this conduct — trying to control and impede the investigation against the President by leveraging his authority over others — is similar to conduct we have seen charged against other public officials and people in powerful positions.

Witness tampering and intimidation

The Special Counsel’s report establishes that the President tried to influence the decisions of both Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort with regard to cooperating with investigators. Some of this tampering and intimidation, including the dangling of pardons, was done in plain sight via tweets and public statements; other such behavior was done via private messages through private attorneys, such as Trump counsel Rudy Giuliani’s message to Cohen’s lawyer that Cohen should “[s]leep well tonight[], you have friends in high places.”

Of course, these aren’t the only acts of potential obstruction detailed by the Special Counsel. It would be well within the purview of normal prosecutorial judgment also to charge other acts detailed in the report.

We emphasize that these are not matters of close professional judgment. Of course, there are potential defenses or arguments that could be raised in response to an indictment of the nature we describe here. In our system, every accused person is presumed innocent and it is always the government’s burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice — the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution — runs counter to logic and our experience.

As former federal prosecutors, we recognize that prosecuting obstruction of justice cases is critical because unchecked obstruction — which allows intentional interference with criminal investigations to go unpunished — puts our whole system of justice at risk. We believe strongly that, but for the OLC memo, the overwhelming weight of professional judgment would come down in favor of prosecution for the conduct outlined in the Mueller Report.

If you are a former federal prosecutor and would like to add your name below, click here. Protect Democracy will update this list daily with new signatories.

426 and growing.
User avatar
brianscharp
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 304
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:49 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Free Speech Zone / Off-Mission Discussions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 15 guests