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Re: Torrey Trial

Postby dhmartens » Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:46 am

Bob it looks like you are handling this yourself and it seems you need a lawyer.

BTW the mining industry is going to run a miles long conveyor belt through the Sylmar landing zone to remove sediment from the Pacoima dam.
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Re: Torrey Trial

Postby dhmartens » Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:36 am

Did you play the video for the jury of David Jebb boasting before a sailing trip to Austrailia boasting that he used violance against suspects, cracked their skulls etc and put them in the hospital before they were able to go to jail and he did it for recreational reasons.

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cops my my great uncle was killed in the
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line of duty by some bank robbers in
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Chicago back in the 30s was instilled in
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me at a very young age that there's a
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lot of injustice out there and
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somebody's got to make it right so I was
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pretty self motivated pretty I tell you
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in some ways smith street smarts and
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right away I went into uniform once I
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got into my own beat my own car I began
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being very proactive and very aggressive
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in law enforcement so I went on up I
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went on a one-man rampage to get these
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guys and the more I became involved in
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this thing the more obsessed I became
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with arresting these guys and at the
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like to fight
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and I was good with my hands and usually
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I had a rule that done if you if you've
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messed with me if you tried to get
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physical with me you guaranteed are
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going to go to jail but first you'll go
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to the hospital and just about every
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time they did I began to question
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everything and I began to realize that
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this is total madness what I'm doing
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this is totally insane I mean because
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you you you deal with this dark force
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you deal with this dark energy and you
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become it I lost myself I lost myself in
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this battle you know I mean Here I am
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trying to do something really good and I
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became totally lost in it I went to my
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doctor and I kind of said hey Doc you
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know something's happening right now I'm
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telling him undead at nighttime you know
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I'd wake up in the middle of a gun
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battle in my dreams or something or in a
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horrific fight and I'd wake up in the
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middle of night with broken pieces of
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teeth in my mouth from grinding he said
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sounds like to me the stress of the job
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is killing it one day some friends of
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mine called me on the settee Dave you
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know we're we're thinking about taking
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the sailboat and doing a South Pacific
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cruise to New Zealand and we need an
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Re: Torrey Trial

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:02 pm

dhmartens wrote:Bob it looks like you are handling this yourself and it seems you need a lawyer.

Yes, and that's part of what's broken in our legal system. A person's wealth (and ability to afford legal resources) should have no bearing on the administration of justice ... but it clearly does.

dhmartens wrote:Did you play the video for the jury of David Jebb boasting before a sailing trip to Austrailia boasting that he used violance against suspects, cracked their skulls etc and put them in the hospital before they were able to go to jail and he did it for recreational reasons.

No. The judge would not allow some of the most important evidence in the case.

David Jebb's confessions in that video expose the stark differences between a business like Windsports (at Sylmar) and a business like Air California Adventure (at Torrey). Can anyone imagine Joe Greblo or Andy Beem bragging about sending people to the hospital on their way to jail?

Sadly, many of the folks at Sylmar (and especially at USHPA) have not understood the abusive and toxic environment created at Torrey by David Jebb and his followers. Thanks for being an exception Doug.
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Re: Torrey Trial

Postby dhmartens » Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:19 pm

"...(E) On June 13, 2015:
“There have been numerous reports of paragliding being used as a “poor man’s air force” for both legal and illegal purposes. Uses include drug smuggling, surveillance, and law enforcement. It’s been long suspected that segments of the paragliding community are involved with some of these legal and/or illegal aspects of the sport. This has particular relevance to hang gliding since it may explain why the sport of paragliding seems to have a “protected” status at places like Torrey Pines and USHPA.”..."

Bob I cannot find a list of drug use or drug smuggling allegations anywhere. I would liker to explore these "indepth". Can you please point me to all information on the subject.
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Re: Torrey Trial

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:54 pm

dhmartens wrote:Bob I cannot find a list of drug use or drug smuggling allegations anywhere. I would liker to explore these "indepth". Can you please point me to all information on the subject.


I don't know about "all" information, but here's a start:



That was from a Google search using the terms "smuggling" and "paraglider". I'm sure there are other terms and combinations that will turn up additional results. Please let us know what you find.
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Re: Torrey Trial

Postby dhmartens » Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:40 pm

The drug mule/drug smuggler in this CBP video is dropping 250lbs of fentanyl at the 1 minute 37 second point using a powered hang glider of some sort.
That is enough fentanyl to kill over 50 million Americans.

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Re: Torrey Trial

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:27 am

Bob wrote:Please let us know what you find.

dhmartens wrote:The drug mule/drug smuggler in this CBP video is dropping 250lbs of fentanyl at the 1 minute 37 second point using a powered hang glider of some sort.
That is enough fentanyl to kill over 50 million Americans.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW5zOZb8yAk

That's a good find Doug. Thanks for that contribution.

It turns out that you can download that full video from here:
       https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/uap-documents-and-videos-surface-from-u-s-customs-and-border-protection/

Here are a few frames from that video showing the actual drop:

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Re: Torrey Trial

Postby dhmartens » Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:18 pm

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Re: Torrey Trial

Postby Bill Cummings » Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:46 pm

Years back there was a picture of a crashed North Wing motorized trike that the Border Patrol said crashed as a result of dropping a bale of Marijuana. They said that it caused the balance to be too far off and caused the trike to crash. I’ve had 900 flights in motorized trikes and know that to be a BS story. Because the trike will shift and automatically center under the wing and fly on with weight shift control. With three axis control the weight and balance would be off and cause a crash.
A more likely scenario is that the BP chopper flew over the trike in an effort to force the trike to land but the Down wash of the chopper broke the hg wing and that is how the person was killed. By Border Patrol.
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Re: Torrey Trial

Postby dhmartens » Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:44 pm

This could be retaliation from the drug cartels. We are looking into it.
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