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[TadEareckson]

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/09

I've spoken with Tad many times on the phone, and several times he's made the assertion that his presence on this forum is actually contributing to the growth of the US Hawks.

bulls***.

1. There's NO POSSIBLE WAY an assertion like that can be made. The best one can do is make a guess.

2. At this stage and for the foreseeable future I'm not at all interested in contributing to the "growth" of the organization - just laying a solid foundation upon which it can grow in a competent responsible manner. And for that task US Hawks has grown way too much already.

I do agree that Tad has brought some people to this forum, but at the same time, I also know that he's driven (or kept) many other people away.

And since all men are created equal we don't hafta look into any quality issues. This is only about getting numbers so a Bill, Antoine, Mike, Nobody, and Zack is always gonna be trumped by a Davis, Jack, Pilgrim, Rooney, Sam, and Terry.

So I haven't been able to tell if his presence is beneficial or not.

Depends upon what your objectives are and how you define beneficial. On the morning of 1986/01/28 NASA's objective was to get the Challenger off the ground. They WERE successful - much to the surprise of a lot of engineers whose objective it was to keep it on the pad until the job could be done right.

During my recent cross-country drive, I had the chance to speak with Tad again on this topic, and he again asserted that his presence (and posts) were contributing to the growth of the US Hawks...

bulls***. He expressed the OPINION that the wire would PROBABLY be a lot dustier minus his posts.

...more than they were harming it.

If it starts going down the "Preflight, Hangcheck, Know you're hooked in." path it needs to be stopped, redirected, and/or harmed - from the inside or outside.

So I've decided to put that assertion to the test.

Minus the consent of the lab rat. But hey, who give's a rat's a** about a rat's a** anyway?

Starting today (December 9th, 2011)...

...a date which will live in infamy...

...I've restricted Tad to only posting in the "Free Speech Zone".

bobk - 2011/10/19

OK, so exactly where have I been a "Current Dictator"? Please name one single instance. There's no need to write War and Peace. Just tell me where I've acted as a "Current Dictator" on this forum?

Yeah, that's how Hitler started out - arbitrarily excluding people from mainstream discussions and giving them special little roped off areas where they could carry on their discussions with other subhumans.

I plan to continue that restriction for about a month...

Define "about". I was "suspended" from the Capitol club form for PRECISELY three months about three years ago. And I'm REAL curious as to the reason you have for not saying until "December 9th, 2012". Guess ya better leave things open ended just in case this little "experiment" in restricting unpopular speech is successful beyond your wildest expectations.

...to see if that helps or hurts general participation in the rest of the forum. This restriction is not intended to be any judgement on Tad or on the value of his posts.

Who the hell CARES what this restriction is INTENDED to be or do. Everybody within earshot with a respect for rules and principles should be REAL uncomfortable with what it DOES - regardless of how he feels about the victim or what he says.

Instead, it's intended to simply answer the question as to whether Tad's presence is helping or hurting the growth of the US Hawks and the US Hawks forum (a question he posed himself). At the end of the month, I'll review the results of this restriction to see if our forum participation (measured in posting rates) has increased or not.

All comments are welcome (either here, by PM, or in the Free Speech Zone). Thanks.

Yeah, I've got a comment. bulls***.

You don't have a freakin' clue what science is and there's not a snowball's chance in hell you ever will.

Brian Vant-Hull - 2008/06/30

...and inspected, under controlled and numerically repeatable conditions, the barrel release...

Scientific experiments are CONTROLLED and REPEATABLE. What you're doing is a total farce and fraud.

1. The traffic doubles. So what? How do you know it wouldn't have tripled if I had stayed?

2. The traffic drops to half of what it was. Maybe it would have gone to a quarter if I were involved.

3. Your sample size sucks anyway. If Bill recovers from the flu you could see a 33 percent spike in activity level.

4. Is lotsa traffic necessarily a good thing? If the number of halfwits writing "Preflight, Hangcheck, Know you're hooked in." quadruples will that bode well for a good 2012 season?

5. The wire heats up because people are pissed off that I've been kicked off. "Oh, look! Tad's gone, participation goes up! I was right all along and there's the PROOF!" Are you counting Nobody's flurry of recent posts to bolster your position?

6. If this bulls*** "experiment" has the desired effect of bringing all the "Preflight, Hangcheck, Know you're hooked in." halfwits into circulation as desired I guess we'll be "conducting further studies"?

And here's a few other little side benefits I get for being volunteered for your "experiment":

You are not authorised to view the member list or profiles.

And I no longer have ANY search options available.

And I can't PM anybody. But I guess anybody I'd have a reason to PM would be OK with that.

Oh well, sacrifices of lab rats must be made in our relentless pursuit of truth.

Hey! Sam, Terry, Pilgrim...

Got an idea! Start a thread in General titled "we luv cats". Post to it twenty times a day, the rates will go through the ceiling, Bob's experiment will be a smashing success, and everybody's Tad problem will be ended just as successfully as it was at the Davis and Jack Shows and all those other places I've lost track of.

What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?

You will ... hopefully. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Everyone has to do their part once in a while. If you see something that's not being done correctly, then it's your duty to speak out. One big difference between the US Hawks and other organizations is that the US Hawks really does honor the free speech of its members.

Needs editing. Let's try this...

Nothing. If you make too much noise about stuff we're doing wrong I'll cut your wire. If you don't like the way I'm running stuff go start your own organization - I'm the one who makes up the rules as I go along here. Love it or leave it.

If Jack had banished Scott and I to "the basement" and allowed others to post references to our basement posts in the main forum, then I suspect Scott and I would have lots of people participating in those discussions.

And that would have made it OK.

Let me make it clear that I have no problem with people reviewing your ideas Tad.

1. Cool! I'm sure they'll all be thrilled to hear that they have your permission.

2. "MY" ideas like...

- If you take a hand off a stuffed basetube to release you can count on doing an unplanned semi-loop.

- A light weak link is a helluva lot more likely to cause a dangerous stall than prevent one.

- The more confident you are that you're hooked in just prior to the instant of launch the more likely you are to find yourself hanging from the basetube the moment after.

In fact, I'm likely to post links to your writings myself.

Super! Then they'll be able to easily find everything I say with which you're in total agreement. "Click here to see Tad's take on the downsides of clipping barbed wire fences on landing."

But while you have lots of good information, your presentation is so poisonous that it not only defeats your own posts...

And you've made that determination how?

...but drives people away from the forum in general.

Good. Can ya give me some pointers on what I'm doing right? I recently noticed Pilgrim was still on the list.

The results of the test that I've mentioned above will tell us whether that's true or not.

bulls***.

If the forum grows during your restriction, then that will be an important data point.

And when flocks of Rooneys, Rooney Followers, and Rooney Harmonizers start flocking in, thanking you for making this a better place, and making their opinions on physics available to their fellow halfwits, of what use will that data point be? Nah, just kidding. Everybody and his dog know how that data like that gets used. And isn't there some saying about "lies, damned lies, and statistics"?

Jim Rooney - 2009/11/03

God I love the ignore list

Tad loves to have things both ways.
First weaklinks are too weak, so we MUST use stronger ones. Not doing so is reckless and dangerous.
Then they're too strong.

I have no time for such circular logic.
I had it with that crap years ago.

Jack Axaopoulos - 2009/11/09

Guess AeroTow didnt take my last warning seriously.

Jim Rooney - 2009/11/09

I think my opinion on Mr Negative are pretty clear, so I'll just say

Ah, with that out of the way....
Back on topic

Ryan...

Tad, the current restrictions are designed to determine whether you're viewed as a "spammer" by those who want to build the US Hawks.

1. Guess what, Bob. I'm viewed as a spammer now by those who want to build the US Hawks and have good records of playing well others. So I'm pretty sure I'll still be viewed as a spammer at the "conclusion" of your "experiment".

2. What are the qualifications one needs to get on YOUR list of people who want to build US Hawks?

Jaime Perry - 2009/11/10
Trenton, Georgia

I can't say that I'm sorry to see him go.

BUT ...

I really wish the sport had a die hard advocate for safety improvements because I think we have alot of room to improve the sport. Sometimes Tad makes some good points, he just goes about things in the most ineffective and offensive way. Imagine someone as passionate as Tad that was a great communicator who could influence people and make things happen ...

Honestly now that he is banned I'd like to see some rational discussion about some of his safety concerns without his obnoxiousness making me leave the threads.

I've only been a pilot since September 07 and there have been numerous serious accidents at my local flying site. I don't feel like we do a good job of compiling the information on the incidents to make use in an effective lessons learned program. I wonder alot lately "What can I do to make a difference" ?

HG.org really has the ability to make a big difference in this sport, I'd like to challenge all of us to figure out how to use this wonderful place(that SG has so generously provided) as a powerful advocate for safety in this sport.

SG I know your reluctant to ban anyone but I support you on this one. It had gotten to the point that I avoided mentioning safety at all so as not to lure Tad into any thread of discussion.

Thanks for all that you do again !

And I'm ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that The Bob Show (that Bob has so generously provided) will start becoming the powerful tool for promoting safety in this sport that The Jack Show did after halfwitted twits with broken ignore buttons were no longer being forced to read my ineffective, offensive, obnoxious posts.

The restriction is also designed to see if it makes the US Hawks "a better place" to use your choice of words.

Jason Dyer - 2010/04/03

awww, I'm going to miss him.

I think in principal he has a good thing going, but his bedside manor needs a little work Anyone that goes against his grain is misquoted and bullied somewhere in a full page of opinion and strife.

Thanks Davis, it will be a better place without him.

Rob Wenban - 2011/07/19
Melbourne

Thanks Davis, he has nothing constructive to add, he simply causes trouble - well done!

It UNDOUBTEDLY WILL make it "a better place". You learn from the masters quickly, Grasshopper. Now wave bye-bye to your soul before you push the flush lever.

Both of these are in the eye of the beholder, and that's why we have to "do the experiment" to see how it turns out.

1. Physics doesn't give a rat's a** about eyes of beholders. You take a hand off the basetube at the wrong time you're gonna be upside down regardless of your opinions and beliefs on the issue and what it says and doesn't say in "Towing Aloft".

2. When you say "we" "have to" do the "experiment" who is "we" and who's holding the guns to "OUR" heads?

3. I'm pretty sure you've got the Peter "Unplanned Semi-Loop" Birren vote safely in your pocket. (Pretty good timing, huh Peter?)

4. It sure is a good thing I've got JD Guillemette repairing helicopters for my freedom somewhere in the middle east right now.

Since you've been a big advocate of testing (weak links, release strengths, etc), then I hope you won't mind the inconvenience of this current experiment.

1. Yeah, I actually mind the "inconvenience" a lot - especially using the weak link analogy 'cause most of the time they're not able to function very well as weak links after the conclusion of the testing.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. The President For Life, however, may do whatever the hell he pleases at any time, for whatever reasons, and using whatever stunningly transparent pretenses he pleases.

2. Stupid people tend to hate me, smart people tend to like me. The bent pin release is proof that only one or two glider people in a thousand are capable of understanding fifth grade science. And if you DO understand fifth grade science you won't win any popularity contests in this sport or on this forum.

I hope everyone who's enjoyed corresponding with Tad will continue to do so in the Free Speech Zone.

Jim Rooney - 2011/08/26

If someone's got a problem with it... we've got over ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND TANDEM TOWS and COUNTLESS solo tows that argue otherwise. So they can politely get stuffed.

As my friend likes to say... "Sure, it works in REALITY... but does it work in THEORY?"
Hahahahhaa... I like that one a lot

And if you don't wanna have your conversations restricted to the "Free Speech" Zone you can politely get stuffed.

[TadEareckson]

P.S. Not only am I...

You are not authorised to send private messages.

...not authorized to send private messages....

You are not authorised to read private messages.

...I can't even access my archived private messages.

[Bob Kuczewski]

P.S. Not only am I...

You are not authorised to send private messages.

...not authorized to send private messages....

You are not authorised to read private messages.

...I can't even access my archived private messages.

Hi Tad,

That was an oversight on my part, and I believe I've fixed it. Please test it out to let me know.

I apologize for any inconvenience.

[TadEareckson]

Yeah, I can move around a little better now.

bobk - 2011/12/11

The US Hawks is a national hang gliding organization designed to give all hang glider pilots a platform for sharing information and a focal point for pooling their efforts to further their own flying and the sport of hang gliding.

1. Is everybody who has enough money to buy a USHGA rating card and/or the ability to survive a couple of glides off a ramp a "pilot"? Is that the working US Hawks definition?

2. Is there an airtime requirement for membership? If it's just something someone has always wanted to do and has studied everything he could get his hands on but hasn't started lessons is he excluded?

3. Is it possible for someone to further his own flying and, in doing so, do serious damage to the sport of hang gliding - and perhaps himself and the other glider or volleyball game he flies into as well?

4. Does one hafta to be clipped in to the glider to log time for any Hawks requirement? Or should we allow the dangling from the basetube stuff to make it easier on the Texas crowd?

5. Should Steve Parson be excluded from membership because he has a felony manslaughter conviction as a result of an unhooked tandem launch incident at Coronet Peak?

6. Should Jim Rooney be welcomed with open arms because - as HIS passenger survived the fall after his unhooked tandem launch incident at Coronet Peak - he doesn't have a felony manslaughter conviction?

Tad has a platform to speak on the US Hawks forum. He has more of a platform here than on hanggliding.org, ozreport.com, or ushpa.aero.

Welcome to US Hawks!!! Sucks less than the Jack, Davis, and Tracy Shows!!!

What he no longer has is the ability to hijack every topic and twist it to his own agenda.

1. Ya know what, Bob? NOBODY has the ability to hijack ANY topic and/or twist it to ANY "agenda". People with brains larger than walnuts are quite capable of not reading and not responding to any and everything that comes across the wire. And some people with brains substantially larger than walnuts are capable of addressing and dealing with people who try to derail discussions which are in the interests of the greater/public good.

But ya know who REALLY does the most damage to discussions and causes the volume of traffic to go through the ceiling? People who:

bobk - 2011/11/04

So I'd like to start with one proposal that's been brought to us by Tad.

a) pretend to speak on behalf of others, take quotes out of context and deliberately misrepresent the author's position, and make demonstrably false statements and refuse to retract them when confronted with the evidence;

bobk - 2011/11/25

Furthermore, your shotgun posting approach turns one discussion into ten. And anyone who's foolish enough (as I have been in the past) to answer those ten will be faced with ten times ten (100) more. Sir Isaac will tell you that's exponential growth and is unsustainable. That's why I've advised Peter (and everyone else) to stop playing your game.

b) making up "facts" and using them as foundations for their positions and courses of action;

bobk - 2011/11/13

I've asked some of the experts and they have advised me that performing a "lift-and-tug" in difficult conditions can introduce significant risk to the pilot's safety.

c) use "recalled" statements from anonymous "experts" in lieu of actual data and evidence - which can't be cited 'cause it doesn't exist.

Sam Kellner - 2010/04/02

Would/could not release at all. No better than any others.

terryJm - 2011/12/01

Those of us who prefer to fly, will always wonder about the key board jocks, who frighten away new flyers with skitzoid horror stories of murder, and at the hands of friends who only wish to share the incomparable thrill of free flight.

d) allow halfwitted members of the home team who have no concepts of grade school science and math to make moronic statements without challenge 'cause they're members of the home team.

Nobody - 2011/11/12

2. Does a competent pilot put himself in a situation in which he NEEDS every bit of his strength to control his aircraft?

Bob, I would really like to read your response to this simple question.

e) repeatedly refuse to answer questions to prevent their positions from being undermined;

Sam Kellner - 2010/03/28

Yeah, I don't even read all of those long winded "explanations".

bobk - 2011/10/23

As for Nobody's request for me to read a document, I haven't found the time yet. I'm sorry, but I don't have time to read everything that everyone asks me to read.

f) have brains the size of walnuts, ten second attention spans, and/or can't be bothered to do enough homework to have a clue what the hell the discussion is about before involving themselves in it.

2. The implication being that Tad WAS hijacking every topic and twisting it to his own (twisted) agenda. I'm wondering if you can provide a SINGLE example of me doing that?

3. I keep hearing about my "agenda". I'd really appreciate knowing what that is. Eh, never mind. It's obviously to personally gain control of hang gliding worldwide and enrich myself beyond anyone's wildest dreams.

It gives me no pleasure to restrict Tad.

Just in case anybody actually fell for the crap about this just being a harmless little scientific "experiment" to be run "for ABOUT a month"...

I think he has a lot to offer the sport and that's why I sought him out and invited him to join us.

But since he wouldn't play nice with the 130 pound Greenspot, bent pin, unplanned semi-loop, Preflight, Hangcheck, Know you're hooked in morons and serial killers I'm counting on to fill the ranks of my new popular opinion based USHGA II...

Nobody - 2011/12/11

If I can't donate, then what can I do to help?

Just try to visit the forum regularly and post as often as you can.

Ooh! Thanks! I had forgotten about that one. I've been over here engaging and boosting the activity level and web presence of this dump - EXACTLY AS BOB REQUESTED - while letting Kite Strings gather dust. And the thanks I get is an indeterminate stay in the brig - without even the pretense of charges - under some bulls*** cover story that King Bob is merely conducting a scientific experiment.

Ya know, Bob...

I won't waste my or anybody else's time with liars and scumbags like Rooney, Davis, and Jack and their walnut brained cult members like Marc Fink, Sam Kellner, and Jim Gaar, but I'd be THRILLED if Peter would come over to Kite Strings and call me a(n):

Fuckin' coward
ignorant coward
ignorant slut
coward
Asswipe!
Coward
Big talker
Superior Pilot who never makes a mistake!

'cause:

a) I've got a whole helluva lot more respect for the principles of free speech than you could possibly IMAGINE;

b) I'm not afraid to meet, address, and defeat challenges; and

c) issues get settled a lot faster and more definitively when people's wires aren't cut or interfered with - especially during the heat of battles they're winning.

[TadEareckson]

bobk - 2010/08/15

Be Polite!!

This soap box area is meant to be a free speech zone, but try not to post anything that will reflect poorly on the US Hawks.

Thanks.

Hell, Bob... The facts that:

a) two people have had their posts arbitrarily stripped from the US Hawks chapter forum at which they originally appeared and scrapped here; and

b) the second highest (after Your Majesty's) ranking US Hawks contributor - by post count - has been arbitrarily restricted here from the mainstream discussions areas in flagrant violation of just about all of the stated core principles of the organization with ZERO justification, under astronomically flimsy pretenses, and with no avenue for remedy or appeal...

reflect about as poorly as anything possibly could on the US Hawks dictatorship.

And you're worried about POLITENESS?!?!?!

[TadEareckson]

What is the US Hawks?

The US Hawks is a national hang gliding organization designed to give all hang glider pilots a platform for sharing information and a focal point for pooling their efforts to further their own flying and the sport of hang gliding.

As long as the information doesn't clash too much with the ways things have always been done.

What does it cost to join the US Hawks?

Currently, membership is free. The US Hawks will follow the model of the Torrey Hawks by providing a voice for all hang glider pilots.

Well, the popular ones who toe the line anyway.

Why do we need another organization?

The need for choice on the national level has been clear for some time. The HGAA, for example, was originally formed to be more of a grass roots organization than USHPA. However, it was quickly overtaken by those who again concentrated power and shunned opposing viewpoints. So the US Hawks was formed to provide yet another alternative.

And here we have an organization in which a single individual holds all the power and shuns opposing viewpoints like the plague.

What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?

You will ... hopefully. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Everyone has to do their part once in a while. If you see something that's not being done correctly, then it's your duty to speak out.

Then, after you've made your point and sit down and shut up so the organization can get on with what it was doing.

One big difference between the US Hawks and other organizations is that the US Hawks really does honor the free speech of its members.

bulls***.

Will the US Hawks try to replace USHPA or the HGAA?

No. I started the HGAA because I wanted pilots to have choices. Eliminating USHPA (or the HGAA) would reduce our choices and that's never been my goal. Pilots who like USHPA should have USHPA. Pilots who like the HGAA should have the HGAA. And pilots who like the US Hawks should have the US Hawks. As I said when founding the HGAA, more choices gives us a better chance of each pilot finding an organization that they like. Hopefully those organizations (USHPA, HGAA, US Hawks) will all work together to make our sport better. They each appeal to different kinds of pilots and that's likely to give us more total pilots participating in our national organizations. Win. Win. Win. I hope the US Hawks' relationships with USHPA and the HGAA will be positive.

1. Pilots who like USHGA aren't pilots.

2. ANYONE who likes USHGA is a scumbag and/or idiot.

3. There is no HGAA.

4. US Hawks will work with USHGA to keep hang gliding the incompetent, corrupt sewer of an aviation branch it's been for about as long as anyone can remember.

How will the US Hawks try to be different from USHPA or the HGAA?

The US Hawks will try to be more of a grass roots organization - more like the start of hang gliding. There's nothing wrong with the strong central control exhibited by other organizations, but the US Hawks will appeal to pilots who want more local control and greater personal participation in decision making.

Especially those pilots too stupid and or lazy to have established the qualifications to participate in sane decision making.

We believe that good decisions sometimes require a significant effort to dig into the facts.

bobk - 2011/10/23

As for Nobody's request for me to read a document, I haven't found the time yet. I'm sorry, but I don't have time to read everything that everyone asks me to read.

Sam Kellner - 2010/03/28

Yeah, I don't even read all of those long winded "explanations".

Sometimes arguments are heated, and that's not something to be feared or rejected. That's the process - painful or not - that leads to better decisions.

Just don't get into a heated argument with King Bob 'cause he's gonna win no matter what.

Is there a Board of Directors for the US Hawks?

Not yet. The HGAA's early problems arose because different people wanted to take the organization in different directions. That created power stuggles which cost the HGAA some of its early leadership. For now, I'm going to take the US Hawks in the direction that I believe is right. If people want to go along, then they're welcome. If not, there are at least two other alternatives.

King Bob (for now).
My way or the highway.
Love it or leave it.

Can local chapters join the US Hawks?

Certainly. We currently provide a public forum for each of our chapters to keep them better integrated with the national organization. We may be the first national hang gliding association to do that (watch for others to follow).

A national network of totally unaccountable petty dictators who also do whatever the hell they feel like with no actual standards, protections for the members, or accountability.

Do all local chapters have to have 'Hawks' in their name?

No, but you might think so given our first 3 local chapters (Torrey Hawks, Tooele Hawks, and Lakeview Hawks)! Any club is welcome to apply for membership. All we really want to see is that the club is sincere in being a member of the US Hawks and that they have a desire to promote and protect the sport of hang gliding in their local area.

Yeah, that's ALL "We" really want to see. And we really don't give a rat's a** about rules, fairness, competence, and/or how many people get maimed or killed while the sport is being promoted and protected in your local area.

Do I have to be a member of the US Hawks to use the forum?

No, but your membership in the US Hawks would show a more sincere interest in our organization and an appreciation of our efforts.

And be very careful about objecting to some of the directions "our" (read Bob's) efforts are taking us.

Eventually we may provide additional services for actual members or place limitations on non-members.

And/or place whatever limitations on members "We" feel like.

Can I donate to the US Hawks?

No.

Especially not divergent or opposing viewpoints.

Our model is based on freedom of speech and freedom of representation.

1. bulls***.

2. You represent yourself and if King Bob doesn't like your position or style you can take a hike.

If I can't donate, then what can I do to help?

Just try to visit the forum regularly and post as often as you can.

Yeah, right. Don't start getting close to King Bob's fifty percent mark or you might start having problems with your microphone.

It also helps if you spread the word about the US Hawks and try to bring in new members.

Sure. No problem on either of those - especially the first one.

[TadEareckson]

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[Bill Cummings]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0995036/
Storyline

Sir Arthur Eddington is a renowned physicist at Cambridge University and an expert in the measurement of the physical world. He along with all of his colleagues are also avowed Newtonians. Sir Oliver Lodge suggests that he read a new thesis put forward by a German-Swiss scientist named Albert Einstein who is suggesting that Sir Isaac Newton may have got it wrong. The expectation is that Einstein's theories will be disproven but Eddington admits that his General Theory of Relativity has merit. These are turbulent times as England and Germany are at war and Eddington's own loyalty is called into question when, as a Quaker, he refuses to fight. In the end, Eddington develops a series of tests to either prove or disprove Einstein's theories. For his part, Einstein has his own struggles during this period: the breakdown of his marriage, his integration into the university in Berlin and his own strident pacifism that led him to oppose German militarism and the First World War...
Tad, In this movie Newton's theory has no explanation for the error in Mercury's orbit but Einstein's theory and calculations correct for the error. Also Eddington's experiment that proves Einstein's theory was quite ingenious.

[TadEareckson]

Nobody - 2011/12/12

Who's next Bob?

Jeez, just THINK about it for a second or two before you waste the bandwidth and everybody's time.

Who are the only two people who've been removed and erased from the US Hawks Chapter run by Bob's good friend Sam?

bobk - 2011/08/18

Then Sam was a good President to kick you off of the SWTHG forum.

Yaaayyy Sam!!!

And in what order were they removed?

First they came for the communists...

[TadEareckson]

Tad, In this movie Newton's theory has no explanation for the error...

Yeah, I know. (And then Einstein started coming apart at the subatomic level when some of his colleagues started looking at that end of the scale.)

But we go slowly enough and are big enough that Sir Isaac is more than good enough for everything we need to do.

But Donnell didn't understand Sir Isaac well enough to be reinventing aviation and, as a consequence, we got long nylon towlines, two to one bridles, center of mass connections, tension gauges, weak links, spotters, and radios to prevent lockouts and stalls and eliminated the pilot, release, and driver from the equation. And when that started backfiring he invented pilots and bridles which contacted downtubes and nosewires, inadvertantly doubled weak links, and adverse yaw to explain the catastrophes away.

Anyway...

The cool thing about Albert was that he put his theory of relativity together just by sitting in a chair, thinking logically, and questioning some seemingly unquestionable assumptions.

Compare/contrast with the entirety of hang gliding culture which which - for three decades and despite untold hundreds of thousands of tows and gawd knows how many crashes - has proven itself completely incapable of understanding what a weak link is.