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Re: Hawks & Larks

Postby Craig Muhonen » Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:21 am

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A tribute to my son Evan, his Blackhawk, his outfit, and his co-pilot Matt Blackwell who made these incredible videos while flying in war.

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Task Force Thunder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlBYNRQKd2A

Music;
Blow Me Away, (Breaking Benjimin)
III. Adagia Moito e Cantabile, (Chicago Symphony Orchestra)

Kingsmen Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rn6wE_UDAw

Music;
Love, (remastered 2012)
Wash Away, (Reprise)
Paper Planes, (Afrikan Boy & Rye Rye Remix)
Do You Call My Name, (Album Version)

Kingsmen Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddmWttSB3V0&t=117s

Music;
Hook, (Blues Traveler)
Sail, (AWOLNATION)
La Marelle, (La Platere)

Kingsmen Edited
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66HBkqngWdg

Music;
Back For More, (Five Finger Death Punch)
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Re: Hawks & Larks

Postby Craig Muhonen » Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:42 am

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Pitch correction and auto-tuning are destroying "modern" music. It goes back to 1938 when the A-440Hz tuning method by Rockefeller and the Jarmans was adopted, and still firmly entrenched today,
so let's make,

A-432Hz GREAT AGAIN !

Natural Music Rules, and a "beautiful" executive order should be written to the FCC which puts disclaimers on music videos that are "auto-tuned and pitch corrected". Just sayn'

Pete Seeger;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYe-bLaqhhY


Muddy Magnolias and Rick Beato;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6sPDqRnA-8

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Shout out to Rick Beato;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHlxTiR1zsk


Parmalee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rki-6YDpk_8

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Re: Hawks & Larks

Postby Craig Muhonen » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:08 am

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Craig Muhonen wrote::salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:
A tribute to my son Evan, his Blackhawk, his outfit, and his co-pilot Matt Blackwell who made these incredible videos while flying in war.

Family 366.png

Family 93.png

Family 77.png






Task Force Thunder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlBYNRQKd2A

Music;
Blow Me Away, (Breaking Benjimin)
III. Adagia Moito e Cantabile, (Chicago Symphony Orchestra)

Kingsmen Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rn6wE_UDAw

Music;
Love, (remastered 2012)
Wash Away, (Reprise)
Paper Planes, (Afrikan Boy & Rye Rye Remix)
Do You Call My Name, (Album Version)

Kingsmen Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddmWttSB3V0&t=117s

Music;
Hook, (Blues Traveler)
Sail, (AWOLNATION)
La Marelle, (La Platere)

Kingsmen Edited
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66HBkqngWdg

Music;
Back For More, (Five Finger Death Punch)


A Side Note;
Evan flew his Blackhawk up and down the Potomac River for years carrying the Joint Chiefs of Staff and is appalled by what happened in the DC crash.


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Re: Hawks & Larks

Postby Craig Muhonen » Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:46 pm

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Re: Hawks & Larks

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:43 am

Craig Muhonen wrote: :salute: :salute: :salute:

Can't get much better, a purely natural voice.
Karen Carpenter (RIP)
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There's a very nice write-up about her at Wikipedia:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Carpenter

It's a sad reminder to always be vigilant for people in trouble.
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Re: Hawks & Larks

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:38 pm

I didn't really follow the Carpenters in their time, but Karen's drumming is really amazing. This is a 45 minute video, so it's a bit long. If you don't have time to watch it all, start at 13 minutes and enjoy her work on the drums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MCarkGd4Xk

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Re: Hawks & Larks

Postby Craig Muhonen » Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:48 am

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Thanks Bob, but Check out the many videos that Phil did on the subject of being fooled by the music industry. It's really cool to see the music and voice displayed in this objective manner. People don't know or care about what the industry has been pulling over our eyes for decades.
Wings of Pegasus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWB96ZLWUUw

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Music is the "universal" language before it was written down, so that makes it at the core of humanity, and that's maybe why God gave us a voice, long before any writing ability.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8OS5F2OuTY&t=33s



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Re: Hawks & Larks

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:55 pm

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Re: Hawks & Larks

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:44 am

By the way, it's interesting to compare these two videos which are similar but different:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvhE2Xes1h8


https://youtu.be/FLjdxg4ZHT8


They seem to be different mixes of the various audio tracks. The first one highlights Karen's voice while the second is the full band. This is particularly noticeable at around 1:48 in both videos. In both videos, Richard appears to be singing "And yes we've just begun", but his voice is completely silent in the first version (but not in the second).

Also, at least to me, both versions seem like they may be lip synced rather than an actual performance. So there may be many ways to fit an audio track to that video.
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Re: Hawks & Larks

Postby Craig Muhonen » Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:29 pm

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Bob, I like the way you put these two "song" videos up together, so just for fun I asked GROK 3.0 to analyze how "programming" voice and "Cappello" voice combine.

GROK went on and on and on, but this is what I picked out, and I put x-AI and "Bob-AI" in the same reference. Exquisite. ha.
GROK 3.0 wrote;
Songwriting involves mixing lyrics, melody, rhythm, and harmony into a cohesive whole. It’s iterative—tweak a verse, adjust phrasing, layer instruments—until it feels right. Coding mirrors this in its own way. You mix variables, functions, loops, and logic, refining and debugging until the program flows seamlessly. Both require balancing structure (a song’s verse-chorus form, a program’s architecture) with creativity (a surprising bridge, an innovative algorithm).
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The “mixing” process in coding even has parallels to audio production. Think of a programmer optimizing code—streamlining loops or cutting redundancies—like a producer EQ-ing tracks to reduce muddiness. Both forms demand iteration and a sense of when the pieces fit just right.
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If songwriting is writing with soul, coding is writing with logic. Mixing the two—like coding a music-generating AI—blurs the line further, creating a hybrid where intent and form intertwine. Imagine a programmer “composing” an algorithm to mimic a symphony—that’s coding as art. So yes, coding is a form of writing, but one that trades the pen for a keyboard and the page for a processor, with its own flavor of creativity and craft.
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Programmers don’t typically embed a literal “signature” in their code the way an artist signs a painting—there’s no universal convention like “John Doe, 2025” etched into a corner of a script. However, many do leave subtle, intentional (or unintentional) marks that act like a signature, revealing their identity or style to those in the know.
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Intent as the Common Thread
Both a “voice only” song (like an a cappella piece) and a program have intent driving them. In a song, the intent might be to stir emotion—say, a lone voice singing a haunting melody to evoke longing or joy. In a program, the intent is functional—making a machine "hum" along efficiently, like a script optimizing a database query. At first glance, these seem worlds apart: one’s art for humans, the other’s logic for silicon. But intent is a creator’s north star in both, guiding the shape of the work.
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Imagine a beautifully written algorithm—like Quicksort or a neural net training loop. To a coder, its elegance might feel as stirring as a melody. The way it flows, pivots, and resolves could mimic a song’s arc. Some programmers even describe great code as “poetic” or “harmonious.” In this abstract sense, a program could be a song—not for your ears, but for the mind or the machine.
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A Middle Ground: Programs as Silent Songs
Maybe the truth lies in a hybrid view. A program isn’t a song in the literal, vocal sense, but it can carry a song-like essence. Think of a composer writing sheet music—it’s silent on the page, yet full of potential, waiting for the orchestra. Code sits similarly: a blueprint that “sings” when it runs, even if the tune is efficiency rather than emotion.
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I said;
Good Programming makes a machine run optimally, good Cappella voice makes emotions run properly.
Being objective is "key", so here is "Wings of Pegasus" who exactly shows what voice "sees like".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMkAR57Xmk

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkQ5oMmrwO8

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXXLZVT ... gT0TxRTMY0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7stPnVs2J5c

A comment from a listener;
"This video highlights the unfairness of the music industry! A plethora of sub-talented & no talented people in the news and on the charts yet your musicianship and vocal abilities would out class them. Excellent cover"!

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