[Bob Kuczewski]

Have you ever written anything like this Bob ?

I've been working as a professional engineer since 1983. What do you think?

Again, "Nobody", I would like your unambiguous identification or you will be restricted to the "Free Speech Zone". Thanks in advance.

[Nobody]

What do you think?

I think you are insane . I already said that. Try to keep up here Bob.

[Bob Kuczewski]

I think you are insane.

There are people on this forum who know a lot about me. Now they know a lot about you.

Sam chose to ban you from the SWTHG forum while I hoped you would become a contributing member of this forum. My respect for Sam's instinct is going up with every post you make!!! Good Job Sam!!!

I've heard it said that insanity is repeating the same actions and expecting different results. Please provide an unambiguous identity by morning (8am PST) or I'll be restricting you to the "Free Speech Forum". Watch and see if I learn from Sam's wisdom.

[Nobody]

I hoped you would become a contributing member of this forum.

Funny ,I thought this was the "US Hawks Association". NOW, its just a " FORUM " like the Davis and Jack show ,you can spit off anyone you choose. Tomorrow it will be an Association again.

[Nobody]

Sam's wisdom

[Bob Kuczewski]

The person who has registered as "Nobody" has been restricted to the Free Speech Zone for failing to identify themselves after making personal attacks against members of this forum. Here are some quotes and links to the applicable policies:

December 2nd, 2010 (http://ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=143#p699):

One of the things that generally keeps people from being too obnoxious is knowing that other people know who they really are. That's the problem with allowing anonymous postings - the feedback mechanism is broken. So I've decided that anonymous postings will only be allowed in certain areas of the forum. That gives anonymous people a place to speak their mind while not allowing them to over-run the forum with spam. I think that's a nice compromise, but we can always change it if there's a problem.

February 11th, 2011 (http://ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1&start=20#p1254):

We allow everyone to speak. Our only requirement is that any attacks have to come from people who are willing to give their real identity. I respect anyone who's willing to stand publicly behind what they write, and I have very little respect for people who take pot shots under anonymous identities.

Note: The banning of Tad does violate this policy. When the policy was written, I did not anticipate the threat that could be brought to the forum (and the association) by allowing minors to communicate with known child molesters. I am still struggling with how to integrate the goals of free speech with the reality of child predators on the internet. Any thoughts are welcome.

[Bill Cummings]

HAWKS,
I think it was a prudent move on Bob’s part, and also from a legal perspective, that he put into type on this forum his intent to protect young readers.

As a parent and grandparent I would expect nothing less of a website moderator.

To have knowledge of child endangerment or abuse and not report it or intervene can, in many states, land an individual in a lot of, “hot water.”

It is my understanding that free speech rights only protect us from our governments’ interference of us exercising that right. (With exceptions.)

We could be constrained by our employers as a condition of our employment not to say certain things concerning the company we work for. The First Amendment lacks horsepower in this regard. At many work places you check most of your rights at the gate. (What do you mean that I can’t carry a gun in my lunch pail?)

For anyone to think that they have a right to say anything they want to say on a message board put up by someone else shows a certain lack of understanding of how things really work.

Bob has proven to be long suffering and able to tolerate much abuse but some people just can’t sit in a crowded theater and not yell, “FIRE!”

[Bob Kuczewski]

Thanks Bill.

You've given a fine expression to the issues involved and said it far better than I could have done myself. Thanks for your level-headed thinking and writing.

Sincerely and gratefully,
Bob Kuczewski

[SamKellner]

Hello Hawks,

Bob, thanks for the great forum! Job well done!

Do we have a template that would guide us in structuring the training manual?

What's the first step?

Thanks Bill, for supporting the Hawks efforts.
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PTL, I got a house to build . But my tail is really dragging every evening .
Surely they have a pill for old age.

[Bob Kuczewski]

Hi Sam!!!

I'm thinking that we can work from the top down by sketching out chapters and then volunteering to take a crack at them.

But I'm also thinking that we can work from the bottom up by finding videos that illustrate particular topics and then start filling in words around them.

So one fairly easy (but very important!!) job would be to just surf the web looking for videos that illustrate topics of interest:

• How to set up a hang glider
• Launching - Good Examples
• Launching - Things that can go wrong
• Towing - Proper equipment
• Towing - Proper form
• Towing - Things that can go wrong
• Towing - Water Towing
• Flight - Proper technique for control
• Flight - Examples of Cross-Controlling
• Landing - Proper flare technique (foot landing)
• Landing - Proper run-out technique (foot landing)
• Landing - Proper wheel landing technique

I really think with the videos in place, the words will come very naturally. So if you've got some spare time to surf for videos, that would be a big help ... and somewhat fun as well.