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D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Killing

Postby Free » Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:35 pm

A good New Year's resolution would be to help Davis Straub, with attention and publicity for the societal dictates he craves.

(*Jefferson) Davis Straub, deserves the highlight as a publisher. Sadly, Davis Straub, prefers censorship, smears and innuendo instead of intellectual debate, so it is unlikely that Davis Straub, will join this thread.

Journalist Straub, did 'phone' in some opinion at:
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?p=304902#304902
then jumped on a plane to Australia.

[Davis Straub] Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: #49 http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/12/sacrificing-thousands-of-kids-on-altar.html

But it doesn't take much time reading through conservative websites to see what actually drives the desperate need to own high-priced killing machines. There is a vast, festering paranoia in conservative circles about the "looters" and "parasites" coming to take their hard-earned material possessions in the supposed coming debt-fueled collapse of society.

There is continual worry about some dark-skinned assailant attempting to enter their home and potentially steal their property. Radio shock jocks react to stories about carjacking by demanding that more people carry guns in order to litter the streets with more "dead urban thugs." There are large segments of the population that want nothing more than to eliminate subsidies to the poor and then await the desperate masses who will supposedly come to their doorstep with a lead welcome.

Ron Paul and Alex Jones' legions of followers have been told to "defend your supplies from those who refused to prepare" for the supposed riots coming when EBT cards are canceled. It's doesn't take much investigation of conservative media consumer attitudes to discover that these sentiments are shockingly widespread.
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The blog article that Davis quotes drips with a sick agenda bias that seems to relish in the death of scores of innocent children locked into a gun free killing zone/indoctrination center that is to be the model for everyone if people like Davis, get their wishes.

Of course what's good for the goose is not so good for the ganders, as the elite class of Obama and the David Gregorys of the world send their children to private schools with armed guards. The Dianne Feinsteins of the world have concealed carry and armies of armed guards to protect themselves (at taxpayer expense) but woe to those that want a fraction of that protection for themselves. I wonder if (*Jefferson) Davis Straub, might be a closet carrier himself?

Anyway, for what it's worth, this thread is open to the Davis Straub, gun grabbing crowd if they should care to defend the position that weapons are not a right, but baby killing is....

Of course this thread is also open to those that do not buy the elitist agenda of disarmed peasants.
Try to keep it clean.

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Ron Paul and Alex Jones' Legions of Followers

Postby Free » Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:45 pm

Gandhi on Guns:

"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." - M. Gandhi




Davis Straub
There are large segments of the population that want nothing more than to eliminate subsidies to the poor and then await the desperate masses who will supposedly come to their doorstep with a lead welcome. Ron Paul and Alex Jones' legions of followers have been told to "defend your supplies from those who refused to prepare" for the supposed riots coming when EBT cards are canceled. It's doesn't take much investigation of conservative media consumer attitudes to discover that these sentiments are shockingly widespread.


The full article Jefferson Davis refers to:


- Prison Planet.com - http://www.prisonplanet.com -

The coming EBT riots: What will happen when government entitlements stop?

Mike Adams
NaturalNews [1]
November 18, 2012

(NaturalNews) EBT cards are modern-day food stamps, except they’re electronic. In essence, they are government-issued debit cards that allow recipients to spend taxpayer money for their own groceries. But EBT cards aren’t merely good on food staples like beans and rice, they can be spent on processed junk food that promotes diabetes and obesity. That’s the “dirty little secret” of the EBT scheme: It encourages low-income Americans to become high-profit customers of the pharmaceutical industry by eating their way to obesity, diabetes, cancer and heart disease.

That’s why the food industry loves EBT cards, too: Most EBT users are low-education consumers who understand virtually nothing about nutrition. They tend to buy the most nutritionally-depleted processed foods available, and that equates to high-profit foods for the processed food industry. (The highest-profit foods are the ones with the least nutrition, it turns out.)

EBT stands for “Electronic Benefit Transfer,” and it means transferring money from the pockets of working taxpayers into the hands of those who, for one reason or another, are either not working at all or are living below the poverty requirements set by the government. This transference is done at gunpoint, essentially, through the enforcement of federal tax collection. EBT benefits have more than doubled during the Obama administration’s last four years [2], creating tens of millions of new dependents who now vote based almost entirely on who gives them the most handouts.

The purchase of vitamins is specifically prohibited by the EBT program. This is done as a way to keep EBT recipients sick and diseased while suffering from nutritional deficiencies, which is precisely what the federal government wants.

EBT cards ahttp://www.prisonplanet.com/wp-admin/post-new.phpre also a form of corporate welfare

EBT cards create high-profit handouts to corporations, too: Pharmaceutical companies and the sick-care industry; Big Government which gets re-elected based on entitlement handouts; global banks which earn a percentage off every swipe; and even the processed junk food [3] industry which preys upon nutritional ignorance of the poor.

In fact, for every dollar’s worth of food handed out to EBT recipients under the program, at least 50 cents is driven right into the profit coffers of wealthy corporations. That’s why EBT programs are allowed to exist: Not because they benefit the poor, but because they benefit the rich! Do you have any idea how much profit there is in a package of Oreo cookies?

The “EBT culture” of dependence, poverty and ignorance is perhaps best shown in the now-famous YouTube music video “My EBT” [4]. There, a rapper brags about how he’s using taxpayer money to buy Oreos, chips, sandwiches, breakfast cereals, McDonald’s food and more. He sings about how he wishes he could use it to buy weed.

This article, however, isn’t about how welfare creates long-term dependence and poverty while destroying the dignity of many who come to depend on it. Rather, it’s about what’s going to happen when the EBT card system goes down and stays down.

EBT food stamp systems goes down for hours across multiple states

Yesterday, the EBT card system, which is managed by JP Morgan Chase, suffered a six-hour outage across ten states [5].

Wal-Mart, one of the favorite destinations of EBT card users, proceeded to run transactions manually and then batched them into the JP Morgan Chase processing system once the system came back online. But elsewhere, stores were met with growing frustration from EBT card holders who were angry that their government [6] money cards suddenly stopped working.

In this case, the EBT outage only lasted less than one day. But given that they are tied into a globalist bank which looks almost certain to fail once the global debt [7] collapse unfolds, the question of the day is this: What’s going to happen when the bank running all the EBT transactions goes belly up?

What happens when the free EBT money stops?

Remember how Obama supporters threatened to riot in the streets if Romney won the recent presidential election? There’s a huge class of Americans who have become so dependent on the system of government handouts that they have no ability to survive any other way. These people will riot when the free money is cut off.

As Ron Paul explained in his recent farewell speech [8], the entitlements must sooner or later come to an end:

The wealth we see today is based on debt and a foolish willingness on the part of foreigners to take our dollars for goods and services. They then loan them back to us to perpetuate our debt system. It’s amazing that it has worked for this long but the impasse in Washington, in solving our problems indicate that many are starting to understand the seriousness of the world -wide debt crisis and the dangers we face. The longer this process continues the harsher the outcome will be.


Many are now acknowledging that a financial crisis looms but few understand it’s, in reality, a moral crisis. It’s the moral crisis that has allowed our liberties to be undermined and permits the exponential growth of illegal government power. Without a clear understanding of the nature of the crisis it will be difficult to prevent a steady march toward tyranny and the poverty that will accompany it.

EBT card users are almost universally incapable of understanding the complex economics Ron Paul is describing. All they understand is that their next meal comes from a piece of plastic that “counts as money” at the local corner store. They do not grasp the long-term vulnerability of that system and how it is tied into a global debt scheme whose days are numbered. Furthermore, EBT card users almost universally have no backup plan. They live meal by meal, with no financial safety net, no financial planning, and absolutely zero savings. In fact, having any real savings disqualifies you from receiving an EBT card, which is another way that Big Government actually encourages financial dependence among EBT card recipients.

The EBT false flag riots

Why is all this important to understand? Because on the day the EBT cards are shut off, there will be mass riots of EBT card recipients who are suddenly thrust into an emergency.

In fact, shutting off the EBT cards [9] is actually one way to initiate a false flag event in America. It works like this:

1) Purposely shut off all EBT cards. (Takes just two seconds at JP Morgan.)

2) Blame it on a cyber terrorist attack and use the crisis to institute harsh new police state controls over the internet. (“Never let a good crisis go to waste…”)

3) Allow the “EBT riots [10]” to unfold. Keep the National Guard away for long enough to let things get out of control and have scary footage broadcast on the evening news.

4) Once things are bad enough, announce Martial Law and bring in the troops to turn America’s streets into a Nazi-style police state surveillance and enforcement system, complete with TSA-run checkpoints on all major roads.

What’s required to make this happen? Nothing more than turning off the EBT cards for 72 hours. That’s it! It’s just a single change to a single line of code at JP Morgan Chase, and it’s mission accomplished for the globalists.

Yesterday’s EBT outage, in fact, may have been a practice run for the real thing. When the globalists want riots to unfold, they now have the tool to make it happen.

Long term: All entitlements will be cut off or made worthless through currency debasement

The question of disappearing entitlements isn’t just an EBT card issue, by the way. The coming financial collapse of the U.S. government will end all entitlements [11], including social security, Medicare and federal workers’ retirement pension payments.

That’s the real kicker in all this: In a society where 50% or so are now largely dependent on the federal government for their very survival, the fact that the government is headed into a multi-trillion-dollar debt blowout should raise red alerts everywhere.

Obama has put the USA on a collision course with a debt implosion, adding more to the U.S. debt in the last four years than all the Presidents in the history of America – combined! And with government spending continuing to expand beyond all sanity, there is no stopping the coming debt blowout.

Consider the following U.S. national debt chart:



As you can see from the chart, we are now in a hyperbolic final blowout of debt that can only lead to a total economic implosion. Over the next four years, this chart will get even more insane as Obama spends trillions of dollars of money we don’t have, further accelerating America’s head-on collision with the financial apocalypse.

When that happens, all federal benefits immediately cease. If you thought the idea of tens of millions of angry EBT debt card users was bad, just consider what happens when all the former federal employees don’t get their pension funds anymore. Or if social security checks are eroded down to the point where they are essentially worthless. That’s when you’re going to see real social unrest across America, and that day is a finite number of weeks away. It will arrive as sure as the sun comes up, and when it does arrive, there’s going to be unprecedented chaos in the streets as all the suckers who lived their lives dependent on the federal government suddenly come to find out the whole thing was a Ponzi scheme.

Yep: A Ponzi scheme. The U.S. government is running the largest Ponzi scheme in the history of the world, and just like every Ponzi scheme that has ever existed, it will sooner or later collapse. When that day comes, you will want to make sure you have stored food, water, silver coins, ammo, emergency medicine and all the usual preparedness supplies.

And be prepared to defend your supplies from those who refused to prepare. Because if there’s one thing that EBT cards have taught tens of millions of America, it’s that “YOUR stuff belongs to THEM!”


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Article printed from Prison Planet.com: http://www.prisonplanet.com

URL to article: http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-coming- ... -stop.html

URLs in this post:

[1] NaturalNews: http://www.naturalnews.com/038007_EBT_c ... riots.html

[2] more than doubled during the Obama administration’s last four years: http://www.naturalnews.com/037165_food_ ... _USDA.html

[3] food: http://www.naturalnews.com/food.html

[4] YouTube music video “My EBT”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o64Fz-KW1Dk

[5] a six-hour outage across ten states: http://www.wogx.com/story/20119120/food ... s-affected

[6] government: http://www.naturalnews.com/government.html

[7] debt: http://www.naturalnews.com/debt.html

[8] farewell speech: http://www.naturalnews.com/038006_Ron_P ... berty.html

[9] EBT cards: http://www.naturalnews.com/EBT_cards.html

[10] riots: http://www.naturalnews.com/riots.html

[11] entitlements: http://www.naturalnews.com/entitlements.html

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More Solutions From Davis Straub.. $8.00 Gas

Postby Free » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:15 pm

Davis Straub:
Tax carbon, boost revenues: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/28/scien ... wanted=all


“Prices just keep going up, and a lot of people think it’s a scam,” said Imelda Lyons, 45, as she filled her car at a gas station here. “You call it a carbon tax, but what good is being done with it to help the environment?”


Does anyone want to answer Imelda Lyons' question? ... Davis?
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2nd Amendment Did Not Create/Grant Right to Keep & Bear Arms

Postby Free » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:27 pm

Repeal of the 2nd Amendment would not Abolish any Right
Posted by Bob Greenslade
http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2012/12/27/repeal-of-the-second-amendment-would-not-abolish-any-right/

Following the recent school shooting in Connecticut, American citizens have once again displayed their total ignorance concerning the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Second Amendment. Facebook postings, comments to so-called news articles and letters to the editor are calling for repeal of the Second Amendment. These individuals believe the right to own a firearm is based on the Second Amendment and the right will vanish if the Amendment can be repealed. Unless the Second Amendment created the right, then repeal of the Amendment cannot constitutionally abolish the right.

Following the Federal [Constitutional] Convention of 1787 and the subsequent ratification of the Constitution in 1788, the several States began submitting amendments to Congress for consideration. By September of 1789, Congress had reduced approximately 210 separate amendments to 12. The amendments were inserted into a congressional resolution and submitted to the several States for consideration. Of these, numbers 2-12 were ratified by the States in 1791 and became the so-called Bill of Rights.

A little known fact about this resolution is that it contained a preamble declaring the purpose of the proposed amendments. Most modern editions of the Bill of Rights either do not contain the preamble or only include the last paragraph. The most important paragraph is the first one because it discloses the intent of the proposed amendments.

A review of this paragraph shows that the sole purpose of the proposed amendments was to prevent the federal government from “misconstruing or abusing its powers.” To accomplish this, “further declaratory and restrictive clauses” were being proposed. The amendments, if adopted, would place additional restraints or limitations on the powers of the federal government to prevent that government from usurping its constitutional powers. Every clause of the Bill of Rights, without exception, is either a declaratory statement or a restrictive provision.

If the Bill of Rights had granted rights, then the word “granted” would have to appear each and every time a right was being established. A review of the Bill of Rights shows that the word “granted” does not appear in any Amendment.

In reality, the Bill of Rights placed additional or secondary restraints on the powers of the federal government concerning the rights of the people and powers reserved to the States. That is why the words “no,” “not” and “nor” appear throughout the Amendments instead of the word “granted.”

Since the Second Amendment did not create or grant any right concerning firearms, the right enumerated in the Amendment has to be an existing right separate from the Amendment. Thus, repealing the Second Amendment would not eliminate any right because the right enumerated in the Amendment was not created by the Amendment. The right to keep and bear arms exists independent of the Constitution or the Second Amendment.

In order to help explain this constitutional principle, I reluctantly decided to reference a United States Supreme Court case from 1875. Normally, I would not cite a court case to support a constitutional principle because too many opinions do not reflect the true intent of the Framers. However, I decided to make an exception because this decision states this constitutional principle clearly and concisely and has never been overturned.

In the case of United States v Cruikshank, the United States Supreme Court held that the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights were not granted by the Amendments and are not dependent upon the Constitution for their existence. The Court also ruled that the Amendments were restraints on the powers of the federal government and it is the duty of States to secure the individual rights of the American people.

One of the most definitive and succinct interpretations of the Second Amendment is found in the Court’s second holding:
“The right there specified is that of ‘bearing arms for a lawful purpose.’ This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second Amendment declares that it shall not be infringed: but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National [Federal] Government…”

The Second Amendment did not create or grant any right to keep and bear arms. It placed an additional restraint on the powers of the federal government concerning the existing right to keep and bear arms. Thus, all a repeal could do, from a federal standpoint, is remove the secondary restraint imposed on federal power by the Amendment. And since many States have a right to keep and bear arms clause in their constitution, separate and apart from the Federal Constitution or the Second Amendment, the existence or non-existence of the Second Amendment would not affect the right because the federal government was not granted and does not have the general power to abolish a natural or individual right secured by a State Constitution.

Note: There is a school of thought that the Fourteenth Amendment made, through a doctrine known as incorporation, the Second Amendment applicable to the individual States. Since the Second Amendment did not create a right, then repeal of the Amendment could not abolish the right in the individual States through the Fourteenth Amendment.

Bob Greenslade has been writing for http://www.thepriceofliberty.org since 2003. Bob focuses his writing on issues surrounding the federal government and the Constitution. He believes politicians at the federal level, through ignorance or design, are systematically dismantling the Constitution in an effort to expand their power and consolidate control over the American people. He has dedicated himself to resurrecting the true intent of the Constitution in the hope that the information will contribute, in some small way, to restoring the system of limited government established by the Constitution
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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bill Cummings » Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:51 pm

If people, not in their right mind, can easily get a gun we need more laws to restrict the availability of guns and hopefully eliminate guns within our society.

Taken a step further, it would then make perfect sense to put automobiles out of reach of alcoholics, of whom it could be said that they are drunk and not in their right mind. Does it not further make sense that automobile access needs to be restricted and hopefully eliminated within our society?

Some terrorists, that also might not be on the same page with most of us level headed patriots, should also not have access to commercial jet passenger airliners. We need also to restrict the availability of commercial jets and hopefully eliminate jets within our society.

The logic seems inescapable.

Let us not run headlong into making new laws without first going back and correcting our past oversight concerning the centuries before guns came along.

Until we have the complete registration of knives and the licensing of knives of any sort we will never be able to have a safe peaceful society.

If we wish to butter some toast and do it the correct way there should not be any problem with going through the waiting period and then with the proper license in hand, and proper training, take possession of a legal, registered butter knife.
(The toast might be cold by then but it’s a small inconvenience that would obviously make our society safer.)
I would venture to say that from the time that knives and mankind got together the death rate due to knives far and away exceeds the death rate due to guns. :wtf:
Hopefully we can eliminate knives from our society along with the evil guns.
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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:58 am

billcummings wrote:The logic seems inescapable.

Bill, I like the way you think!!!!!

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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bill Cummings » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:33 am

December 22, 2012 - “What I am about to tell you is something you’ve probably never heard or read in history books,” she likes to tell audiences.

“I am a witness to history.

“I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history.

If you remember the plot of the Sound of Music, the Von Trapp family escaped over the Alps rather than submit to the Nazis. Kitty wasn’t so lucky. Her family chose to stay in her native Austria. She was 10 years old, but bright and aware. And she was watching.

“We elected him by a landslide – 98 percent of the vote,” she recalls.

She wasn’t old enough to vote in 1938 – approaching her 11th birthday. But she remembers.

“Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.”

No so.

Hitler is welcomed to Austria

“In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unem- ployed. We had 25 percent inflation and 25 percent bank loan interest rates.

Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were go- ing from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn’t want to work; there simply weren’t any jobs.

“My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people – about 30 daily.’

“We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been in power since 1933.” she recalls. “We had been told that they didn’t have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living.

Austrian girls welcome Hitler

“Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group – Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone in Germany was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria. We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back.

“Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.

“We were overjoyed,” remembers Kitty, “and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and
everyone was fed.

Austrians saluting

“After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.

“Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn’t support his family. Many women in the teach- ing profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been re- quired to give up for marriage.

“Then we lost religious education for kids

Poster promoting "Hitler Youth"

“Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school.. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler’s picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldn’t pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang ‘Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles,’ and had physical education.

“Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail.”
And then things got worse.

“The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free.

“We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

“My mother was very unhappy,” remembers Kitty. “When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn’t do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun – no sports, and no political indoctrination.

“I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing.

A pro-Hitler rally

“Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By that time, unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler.

“It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn’t exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

“In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn’t work, you didn’t get a ration card, and if you didn’t have a card, you starved to death.

“Women who stayed home to raise their families didn’t have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.

“Soon after this, the draft was implemented.

Young Austrians

“It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps,” remembers Kitty. “During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys.

“They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines.
“When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat.
“Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.

“When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers.
“You could take your children ages four weeks old to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, seven days a week, under the total care of the government.

“The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

“Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna..
“After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything.

“When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full.

“If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

“As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80 percent of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families.

“All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

“We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables.
“ Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar. He couldn’t meet all the demands.

“Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.

“We had consumer protection, too

Austrian kids loyal to Hitler

“We were told how to shop and what to buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count the live-stock, and then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.

“In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps. The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated.

“So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work.

“I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van.

“I asked my superior where they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months.

“They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.

“As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

“No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

“Totalitarianism didn’t come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria. Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.”

“This is my eye-witness account.

“It’s true. Those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.

“America is truly is the greatest country in the world. “Don’t let freedom slip away.

“After America, there is no place to go.”

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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bill Cummings » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:31 am

They are tearing up the 2 amendment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-taU9d26wT4

When the tornado went through Greensburg, KS Kathleen Sebelius, did the same thing. :thumbdown:
http://www.gunweek.com/2008/feature0501.html
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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bill Cummings » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:03 pm

Law enforcement officers all over the country are sending letters like this
one:

The Honorable Barack Obama
President of the United States of America
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20500

Dear President Obama:

We, the elected sheriffs of Utah, like so many of our fellow Americans, are
literally heartbroken for the loved ones of the murdered victims in
Connecticut. As Utahans, we are not strangers to this kind of carnage-one of
the latest being the 2007 Trolley Square murders wherein nine innocents were
gunned down-five losing their lives.

We also recognize the scores of other recent domestic massacres, which have
decimated countless honorable lives. As Americans, we value the sanctity of
life. Furthermore, similar to our inspired Founders, we acknowledge our
subservience to a higher power.

With the number of mass shootings America has endured, it is easy to
demonize firearms; it is also foolish and prejudiced. Firearms are nothing
more than instruments, valuable and potentially dangerous, but instruments
nonetheless. Malevolent souls, like the criminals who commit mass murders,
will always exploit valuable instruments in the pursuit of evil. As
professional peace officers, if we understand nothing else, we understand
this: lawful violence must sometimes be employed to deter and stop criminal
violence. Consequently, the citizenry must continue its ability to keep and
bear arms, including arms that adequately protect them from all types of
illegality.

As your administration and Congress continue to grapple with the complex
issue of firearm regulations, we pray that the Almighty will guide the
People's Representatives collectively. For that reason, it is imperative
this discussion be had in Congress, not silenced unilaterally by executive
orders. As you deliberate, please remember the Founders of this great nation
created the Constitution, and its accompanying Bill of Rights, in an effort
to protect citizens from all forms of tyrannical subjugation.

We respect the Office of the President of the United States of America. But,
make no mistake, as the duly-elected sheriffs of our respective counties, we
will enforce the rights guaranteed to our citizens by the Constitution. No
federal official will be permitted to descend upon our constituents and take
from them what the Bill of Rights-in particular Amendment II-has given them.
We, like you, swore a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of
the United States, and we are prepared to trade our lives for the
preservation of its traditional interpretation.

The Utah Sheriffs' Association
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