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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:29 pm

I recently got this from a friend:

Bob: Read this.

Subject: Coming to America

You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door.

Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it.

In the darkness, you make out two shadows. One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside.

As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble. In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm.

When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.

  "What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.

  "Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."

The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times.

But the next day's headline says it all:

    "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die."

The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero.

Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.

A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges. The judge sentences you to life in prison.

This case really happened. On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk, England ,killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term. How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire?

It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns. Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.

Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987.Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead. The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.)

Nine years later, at Dunblane, Scotland, Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school. For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners.

Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearms still owned by private citizens.

During the years in which the British government incrementally took away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released. Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands."

All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars.

When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens.

How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed. Kind of like cars. Sound familiar?

WAKE UP AMERICA ; THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION.

     "...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
        tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."
                --Samuel Adams

If you think this is important, please forward to everyone you know. You had better wake up, because Obama is doing this very same thing, over here, if he can get it done. And there are stupid people in congress and on the street that will go right along with him.

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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Free » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:08 pm

It seems to me that hang gliding competitions have a higher level of carnage than recreational flying.
Ban all competition flying. Less competition equals less carnage.
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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bill Cummings » Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:45 pm

A person steals guns, (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), shoots and kills his own mother (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), transports these guns loaded (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), brings guns onto school property (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), breaks into the school (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), discharges the weapons within city limits (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), murders 26 people (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), and commits suicide (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW).

And there are people in this country that somehow think passing ANOTHER LAW
banning guns would protect us from someone like this. If you haven't noticed, people like this are not concerned about breaking laws - they only care about fulfilling their own twisted agenda.
The only people that a gun ban law would impact are the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, which will only serve to cripple the ability to protect ourselves.
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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:26 pm

billcummings wrote:A person steals guns, (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), shoots and kills his own mother (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), transports these guns loaded (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), brings guns onto school property (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), breaks into the school (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), discharges the weapons within city limits (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), murders 26 people (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), and commits suicide (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW).

And there are people in this country that somehow think passing ANOTHER LAW banning guns would protect us from someone like this. If you haven't noticed, people like this are not concerned about breaking laws - they only care about fulfilling their own twisted agenda. The only people that a gun ban law would impact are the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, which will only serve to cripple the ability to protect ourselves.


Well said Bill!!!
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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bill Cummings » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:52 am

If outlawing guns will get them off the streets why don’t we outlaw heroin and methamphetamines?
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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:45 pm

billcummings wrote:If outlawing guns will get them off the streets why don’t we outlaw heroin and methamphetamines?


You're right on target Bill (as usual)!!
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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bill Cummings » Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:43 pm

With a few exceptions my posts in the “Free Speech Zone,” are not original posts by myself. Most have been copy/pastes of things that I agree with 100% that I have run across browsing the internet. If I am looking smart the reader should know that I only gain my apparent smarts from people that are smarter than me. I like to pass along information that I agree with (of course). In the future I will try to attribute quotes from whence they originated. So far my posts have mostly come from unknown authors. No one should confuse me with someone that has been exposed to higher education. I avoided that style of incarceration like the plague. :shh: :shifty: :oops:
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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:39 pm

billcummings wrote:No one should confuse me with someone that has been exposed to higher education. I avoided that style of incarceration like the plague. :shh: :shifty: :oops:

Don't worry ... your secret is safe here on the US Hawks ... after all, we've only got about 5 active participants.    :lolno:
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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bill Cummings » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:20 pm

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Re: D. Straub's Politics=Gun Grabbing, Constitution/Baby Kil

Postby Bill Cummings » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:49 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aGD32DENkk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt9y9RlMFzA

Two Youtube videos about police stepping on our fourth amendment rights.
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