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Re: Water "landing"

Postby JoeF » Sat May 25, 2013 2:16 pm

Anyone on the date of this comic art by Zack Mosley? Smilin' Jack series. See also the challenge in James Hobson research sub-project regarding a comic strip. Jill, the daughter of Zack Mosley, curator of the legacy, will sell originals of strips; she holds most of the original art.
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The shown is cover of a "No. 14" which I do not know yet what that might mean as to date.
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Re: Water "landing"

Postby Bill Cummings » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:35 pm

JoeF wrote:Took off of land off a mountain with water skis on his feet; then he landed in water.
1971: Alfio Caronti
http://www.icaro2000.com/About-us/History.htm
Glimpse of the takeoff photo is a bit tricky to see at the link.
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Thanks, Bill for the Cypress Gardens glimpse!

In your link above I found this:
1995 World Championship in Ager (Spain): Manfred Ruhmer is 2nd. In this year the hang-glider evolution needs a new generation of wings. The first prototype of kingpostless gliders appeares in the competitions scenery.
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I flew against three pilots in the 1995 Nationals held in Chelan Washington that were flying a Pro Dawn Comp. glider that had struts and was topless.
Which topless was first? Or is this the glider that the quote refers to?
You can remove this post so as to not derail the Water "Landing" thread. :shifty:
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Re: Water "landing"

Postby JoeF » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:03 pm

billcummings wrote:
JoeF wrote:Took off of land off a mountain with water skis on his feet; then he landed in water.
1971: Alfio Caronti
http://www.icaro2000.com/About-us/History.htm
Glimpse of the takeoff photo is a bit tricky to see at the link.
Story is welcome, anyone?

Thanks, Bill for the Cypress Gardens glimpse!

In your link above I found this:
1995 World Championship in Ager (Spain): Manfred Ruhmer is 2nd. In this year the hang-glider evolution needs a new generation of wings. The first prototype of kingpostless gliders appeares in the competitions scenery.
________
I flew against three pilots in the 1995 Nationals held in Chelan Washington that were flying a Pro Dawn Comp. glider that had struts and was topless.
Which topless was first? Or is this the glider that the quote refers to?
You can remove this post so as to not derail the Water "Landing" thread. :shifty:


Answer is a bit tricky. Oct. 27, 1961, Thomas H. Purcell, landed in water with his topless Rogallo-NASA-Ryan-inspired four-boom kite-glider wing on pontoons. In the renaissance, such might have been the first water landing of the standard-four-boom flex-wing. Later Burns. Later the similar topless ski-kite of JD on one-ski. All topless as was the Paresev. Then the ancient kingpost returned to the renaissance and we had kingposts; and then we had the flow into topless wings. Full circle?

THEN LATER over a year later in 1963 April we see Mike Burns landing on water; here is the takeoff:
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Re: Water "landing"

Postby JoeF » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:35 pm

Found note:
Cody was the first man to be lifted from the deck of a warship in a heavier-than-air machine. It was during one of these demonstration flights that Cody was almost killed. With Cody at around 800 feet the Captain of the ship turned 180 degrees so it was down wind. The kites immediately began to plummet to the sea and it was only the quick thinking of a crew member using a jack knife and hammer to snap the cable that allowed the kites to float down and for Cody to jump clear a few feet from the surface so he could rescued.

source page:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... E-O432.jpg

Notice that while the train of man-lifting kites were "cut" loose, the system morphed into
a multi-wing train-kite parakite hang glider.
And then just before water impact Cody leaped out of his hang glider and into the water, probably so he would not tangle with the basket, etc. that was carrying him in the former kite system. So, ARP, here is an instance of Cody flying a "hang glider" of a special sort. :wave: :!: :!: :!: :idea:
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Re: Water "landing"

Postby JoeF » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:19 pm

When the HG is not configured to sail as a boat:
Some new notes by others:

http://www.hpac.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=660
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Re: Water "landing"

Postby JoeF » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:47 pm

Fred Wilson posted some links on topic:

Fred Wilson wrote:Hang Gliding Water Landing Awareness and Clinics.
See: http://hpac.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=660

Paragliding Water Landing Awareness and Clinics.
See: http://hpac.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=661


So, when I forward water landing, there is a strong side bar in my text that urges landing away from waves, having float skis, having inflated main spar, having modified clothes, having modified hook-in, having survival gear, and having means to set the wing to sailing-on-water format.

Additionally, my text in forum has shown the deliberate arrangement where the HG pilot aims positively to drop off flight prior to contact with water; pilot drops out into water and lets wing glider to water on its own. Then the pilot could swim to the wing (plan clothing and tools appropriate to the challenges). Upon reaching the wing, begin to arrange the parts to form sailboat. Parts of wing are to be waterproof; tubes are to be so filled so they may not take up water. Consider dropping out of a wing; let the dropping out trigger an immediate morphing of the wing to become useful boat. An adventure await for those who will master water-HG and X-Ocean HG.

For X-Ocean kite-system-assisted hang gliding, the wing and all parts used would receive careful purpose-directed design engineering.

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