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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:43 pm

Free wrote:Jacmac's statement doesn't carry as much weight as the raw video.
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Some people say you don't have a legitimate complaint.


Let them say it louder and louder. It will make publishing the video that much more enjoyable.

By the way, here's what the USHPA SOP said before this incident:

    12-01.05 B. 1. It is required that pilots wear protective headgear while in flight.

Here's what it says as of November 25th:

    12-01.05 B. 1. It is required that pilots wear protective headgear whenever
                they are in their harness and hooked-in or otherwise attached to their glider.


Coincidence?
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby brianscharp » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:46 pm

bobk wrote:If you're ever at Torrey when I'm there, I hope you'll consider flying my glider.
Thanks, that's very generous.
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:00 pm

brianscharp wrote:Thanks, that's very generous.


Actually, it's just what the Torrey Hawks ... and now the US Hawks ... is all about!!!

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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Free » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:50 pm

Well Bob, at least tell us there are multiple copies of the video and instruction to publish them in the event of your untimely death?
You were at more physical risk than Rosa Parks when the cops were called in the first place. You could have been one of those videos.
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:08 pm

Free wrote:Well Bob, at least tell us there are multiple copies of the video and instruction to publish them in the event of your untimely death?
You were at more physical risk than Rosa Parks when the cops were called in the first place. You could have been one of those videos.


There are multiple copies of the video, and I think the people who have them would know to publish them in the event of my untimely death ... but since you mentioned it, I just called them to let them know for sure!!

Thanks for thinking of me Free, and welcome back!!!! You have to leave us instructions on what to publish if you disappear ... again!!
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Jebb and Marien worse than Rosa's bus driver

Postby Free » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:40 pm

Gabe Jebb and Robin Marien are actually worse than Rosa Parks' bus driver.

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/mar/26 ... me-blake26

James Blake didn't lie to get Rosa Parks arrested. He was just following orders..
"I called the company first, just like I was supposed to do," Blake recalled in a later interview with the Washington Post. "I got my supervisor on the line. He said, 'Did you warn her, Jim?' I said, 'I warned her.' And he said, and I remember it just like I'm standing here, 'Well then, Jim, you do it, you got to exercise your powers and put her off, hear?' And that's just what I did."

Within minutes, Montgomery police officers arrived to take Parks to jail.

Over the years, Blake maintained that he was merely a city employee doing his job.

"I wasn't trying to do anything to that Parks woman except do my job," Blake told the Post. "She was in violation of the city codes. What was I supposed to do? That damn bus was full and she wouldn't move back. I had my orders. I had police powers--any driver for the city did. So the bus filled up and a white man got on, and she had his seat and I told her to move back, and she wouldn't do it."

Parks was taken to jail and released after friends posted a $100 bail. She was ultimately fined $14--$10 for the offense and $4 for court costs.
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Re: Jebb and Marien worse than Rosa's bus driver

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:19 pm

Free wrote:
Parks was taken to jail and released after friends posted a $100 bail. She was ultimately fined $14--$10 for the offense and $4 for court costs.


Does anyone here know "Alice's Restaurant" by Arlo Guthrie?

I was in jail with about a dozen other guys arrested for a wide variety of charges. One of the common topics of conversation was "How much was your bail?" The numbers tossed about were on the order of $10,000, $25,000, and even $35,000. When someone asked me, I felt somewhat sheepish saying "$500".

It reminds me of these lyrics from "Alice's Restaurant":

Arlo Guthrie wrote: ... he sat down next to me and said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay $50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?" And I said, "Littering." And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I said, "And creating a nuisance." And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Free » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:20 pm

bobk wrote:
Thanks for thinking of me Free, and welcome back!!!! You have to leave us instructions on what to publish if you disappear ... again!!


I always try to publish my stuff as it occurs. Quite a bit of it has been flushed down the memory hole so some that may remember earlier rants please excuse if you find that I repeat myself.

Rosa Parks didn't fear being killed by the police when she was arrested. She fully contemplated the result of her civil disobedience and forged ahead believing that even racist cops of the time would not do her physical harm... in the light of the public. Not so today. They don't care and they get away with it. This is all part of the globalist agenda. It was only later that Rosa and her husband lost their jobs and moved to Detroit because of death threats. I can't help but to correlate that to your situation as the worst may yet be to come. David Jebb was an undercover narc cop that undoubtedly ruined a lot of lives through lies and deception in the government's corrupt war on drugs. He undoubtedly has all kinds of connections in politics and other dangerous people. You could basically be up against the mob.
You survived the initial crime of false arrest without being shot of strangled by some hopped up 'peace' officer but you are now a clear and present threat to an ex-dope dealer's income stream. I'm mostly pointing this out for others to consider in case something happens to you.
A bit of paranoia could be warranted.
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:32 pm

Free wrote:I always try to publish my stuff as it occurs. Quite a bit of it has been flushed down the memory hole so some that may remember earlier rants please excuse if you find that I repeat myself.

You're excused. It's not easy to fight injustice, and it takes its toll on everyone who's got the guts to do it. Kudos to you for doing it!!

Free wrote:David Jebb was an undercover narc cop that undoubtedly ruined a lot of lives through lies and deception in the government's corrupt war on drugs. He undoubtedly has all kinds of connections in politics and other dangerous people. You could basically be up against the mob. You survived the initial crime of false arrest without being shot of strangled by some hopped up 'peace' officer but you are now a clear and present threat to an ex-dope dealer's income stream. I'm mostly pointing this out for others to consider in case something happens to you.
A bit of paranoia could be warranted.


I've considered that. If I had people who were heavily dependent on me (like a wife and kids), I could not stick my neck out this far. There are lots of good people with those kinds of obligations who can't afford to take such a risk. The forces of evil depend on that, and that made it even more important for me to step forward ... because I could.


Footnote: Regarding the war on drugs, we may respectfully disagree. I've seen real lives ruined with drugs - people very close to me. Their lives weren't ruined by the illegality or the cost. Their lives were ruined by the extremely - and I mean extremely - addictive nature of these substances. The human body was designed to crave various chemical messengers that are carefully doled out by our endocrine system. That craving shapes our behavior because it was designed to shape our behavior. It's very hard to resist the pull of those substances because we were designed to obey them!! Short-circuiting that carefully balanced motivational system by ingesting or injecting artificial "feel good" drugs of any kind is a highly irresponsible and often dangerous thing to do.
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:59 pm

One more thing (unrelated to the topic) ...

There's a fellow named "Jeff1979" who found the Mo Hawks forum and posted looking for people interested in hang gliding. He started a topic named "Hello from St. Louis, Missouri".

Free, I'm assuming that you're not that active in hang gliding any more, but it would be nice if you could reply to that topic and offer him any advice that you might have in your area.

Just a suggestion. Thanks!!
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