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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby wingspan33 » Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:42 pm

Bob,

Has your lawyer given you an idea when you you may release your video? :shifty:

Just wondering. :angel:
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Bill Cummings » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:01 pm

Wingspan quote:
“One other factor is the Trespassing Charge. Bob may want to hold the release of the video until after that issue has been heard by a judge. But then it sounds like the City of San Diego has decided to violate Bob's right to Speedy Trial regarding that charge. And that situation sounds to me like a form of coercion to me - which, in and of itself, is illegal.”

I agree.
A person might wish to stay under the radar of the D. A. by not filing a charge against the City for a violation of Civil Rights.
Just how fast could it be expected that the City would renew the trespass charge if someone were to sue the City?

In effect, by not dismissing the trespass charge and being able for one year to act on it is just like placing a person on probation.

It is in fact intimidation on the part of the City.
It’s akin to the City saying, If you want to sue the City we can always dust off the trespass charge and drag this out until you, Mr. B.K., run out of money because we have enough money in the City coffers to make you yell, “Uncle!” (And don’t you dare forget it.)

Another thought. Now that the video was allowed into evidence it has to be made available to the Prosecution to view and be subject to what they say it shows just like you were saying.
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:30 pm

billcummings wrote:Now that the video was allowed into evidence it has to be made available to the Prosecution to view and be subject to what they say it shows just like you were saying.

We actually gave them the video before the trial along with everything we planned to present. They gave us a big thick binder full of entire topics taken from this forum and other sites. They had gone through dozens and dozens of topics and highlighted various sentences and sections with a yellow highlighter. So they're looking at whatever we say here.

With regard to releasing the video, I'm still waiting for my lawyer to advise that it's OK to do so. He hasn't given me the green light yet, so I'm taking his advice.
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Rick Masters » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:11 pm

I'm still trying to figure out what you did wrong.
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Merlin » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:50 pm

I'm still trying to figure out what you did wrong.

I don't get it either.
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Rick Masters » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:41 pm

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Mr Sun, what should BobK do?
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:45 pm

RickMasters wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what you did wrong.

Merlin wrote:I don't get it either.

Robin Marien had me arrested on November 9th, 2014 for trespassing in a City Park ... where I had purchased a yearly pass for all of 2014. The charge was baseless, and when I showed up for my court appearance on December 22nd, I found that the San Diego City Attorney hadn't even filed any charges with the court ... so there was no trial for that charge.

However, on November 14th, Robin filed to get a "Restraining Order" against me for "workplace violence" at the Gliderport. Gabe Jebb claimed that I hit him on the 9th, and that I was the one who chest bumped him. He's basically turned around everything that he did to me and is claiming instead that I did those things to him.

I am hopeful that the judge will see this for what it is - an attempt to silence and intimidate me for speaking out against the corruption at Torrey Pines.
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby wingspan33 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:50 pm

Merlin wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out what you did wrong.

I don't get it either.


Try out this perspective and see if things make more sense -

X-Drug Cop gets a free lease to wold famous local tourist attraction. That lease allows for the operation of a "concession". That concession is meant to "oversee" hang gliding, sail plane and RC model glider operations (oh, and paragliding has somehow been slipped in here). Of all those activities PGing allows for the HIGHEST profit margin considering tandems, training, and the selling of all associated equipment.

But oddly, in 2014 (now 2015) the lease is not in the name of the business owner, and the business is not legally the same company, as named in the lease. But the previous owner's grown son works at the concession, giving sloppy (unsafe?) training to unknowing, trusting newbies.

Over the years you've managed to kill off the sailplane faction, and have also been working slowly to kill off most of the hang gliding activity. What better than to have no visible competition? But then there's this guy named Bob K who seems to think "fairness" should rule the day - which includes hang gliding activity remaining active, at the least.

As the concessionaire how many counts are against you?

#1) Invalid lease.
#2) Shoddy, unsafe PG teaching techniques.
#3) This guy Bob K who is a constant thorn in your side.

As the concessionaire how many counts are for you?

#1) Favors involving City officials have them looking the other way regarding the invalid lease.
#2) You've gotten so many local folks into the sport of PGing that you can even rely on some of them to harass Bob K as "independents".
#3) You're turning so much new student pilot membership money over to the USHPA that they could care less about you're discrimination against hang glider (or sailplane) pilots.
#4) With the one time owner (of the original company named on the now invalid lease) being an X-Cop, it's not very hard to "pull some strings" with the local police - when you finally decide to criminally harass, threaten and intimidate people like this Bob K fellow.
#5) In fact, they not only won't arrest you for the criminal actions you commit, they will assist you by acting in criminally harassing ways (towards people like this guy Bob K) to help you out.

Can you now see what I see in the crystal ball? :eh:
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby Merlin » Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:14 am

Oh, I get the gist of the "plot". But like Rick, I just don't get what he did "wrong". Or more importantly how what he did could be twisted to be perceived as wrong.

Living in a city I certainly get the corruption thing. Just everyday, mild corruption, not corruption with a big "C". Just takes a slightly corrupt neighbor, a slightly corrupt cop, a slightly corrupt judge and before long things just start to really stink. Transparency helps, but there are a lot of lost souls out there. This is why ethics classes exist, because sadly these petulant self-serving bastards can't figure it out on their own.
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Re: Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Postby wingspan33 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:08 am

Hi Merlin,

The "how what he did could be twisted to be perceived as wrong" part of your post is the actual HEART of the matter.

The "system" involving Air California Adventure Inc. (Robin Marien, Gabriel Jebb, his pop, etc.) has been perverted - obviously another word for twisted.

I've spoken with parties closely connected with this issue and brought up what is called "Black Letter Law". Black Letter Law includes laws that are so old and so well proven to be just (as in justice) that they can not be refuted. One of those Black Letter Laws involves the concept of the "Pubic Trust".

Long ago in England certain waterways were being obstructed by private individuals (and businesses?) who claimed that they could prevent shipping from moving through "their" section of waterway. This private ownership of waterways was found to be improper and therefore illegal. It was determined that the "Public" owned the waterways and ANYONE could make free use of them for transportation and other typical purposes. The government would insure this right as a "Trust". In this way the legal concept of the "Public Trust" was created. The government ensured the Public Trust in regard to the use and navigation of (in more modern times) public spaces.

Now, the air space above Torrey Pines is navigable by aircraft who's operators are otherwise qualified. Access to that air space is by way of a City of San Diego PUBLIC Park. Not only is the PUBLIC Park a public space, but the Air Space above the Park is unrestricted public (usually?) airspace. The legal concept of the government acting to ensure the Public Trust can not be separated from the aviation related activities that take place at (and above?) the City of San Diego's Torrey Pines City Park.

Unfortunately, there has been a perversion (twisting) of very basic justice going on at Torrey Pines City Park for a long time now. This condition relies on the ignorance of your average aviation involved citizen. The City of San Diego has "Sold" access to the airway and (for all intents and purposes the) the airway itself, via a PUBLIC Park - to a private business. In doing so, the City of San Diego has acted in violation of the fundamental legal concept known as the "Public Trust".

Everyone in earlier posts that doesn't understand what Bob K did that was wrong are thinking in (long established) terms connected with the traditional idea of the free use of public spaces. However, what everyone must recognize is that Air California Adventure Inc (with the City of San Diego blindly looking the other way) has established their OWN rules. Air California Adventure Inc. has done so, essentially, to aid in the maximization of their profits.

What makes what Bob K did wrong, comes about because what Bob K did was in violation of (not of any law on the books, but rather) the Corrupt, Perverted, Twisted Rules allowed to be in put in place by Air California Adventure Inc. (Robin Marien, Gabriel Jebb and others). Those Corrupt, Perverted, Twisted Rules have been given support (muscle) by certain (corrupt, or just plain stupid) City of San Diego Police Officers.

As I have said before, it's time to stop playing by the concessionaire's rules - or the corrupt police's rules - or the corrupt City of San Diego's (failure of enforcement) rules.

It's time to go into Federal Court and file a "Violation of the Public Trust" complaint. Ask for $10 Mill in damages. Get ten or more people to file the SAME complaint in their own name. Heck, I'd be willing to organize a lot of what's needed but I'm on the wrong side of the continent. :problem:
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