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Michael Grisham’s Reply to Scott Wise

Postby magentabluesky » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:51 pm

Michael Grisham’s Reply to Scott Wise

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Scott Wise and Gentlemen:

Before you start coming to premature conclusions, you should read and digest my simple request in my Cease and Desist Letter to the US Hawks Board dated Wednesday, February 13, 2019.Link

I further simplified the specific issues in summary form in a subsequent post. link

The issues are:

Bob Kuczewski representing himself as my spokes person.

Bob Kuczewski misrepresenting my beliefs to the Hang Gliding Community.

Bob Kuczewski making a claim of what my beliefs and motivations were as the truth after I have clearly stated what my beliefs and motives were, contrary to Bob’s declaration.

Bob Kuczewski was clearly informed of my beliefs by my postings on the US Hawks and by direct verbal communication by me, yet he was and is clearly promoting a false narrative of my beliefs and motives that a reasonable man should know are not true.

And now today, February 21, 2019, in another proclamation by Bob Kuczewski, spokes person Bob on behalf of Michael Grisham is announcing “Michael Grisham’s Confession”.Link

In Bob Kuczewski’ “Michael Grisham’s Confession” post, Bob Kuczewski deduces that he knows what Michael Grisham “feels”.

Unless Bob Kuczewski has some super psychic abilities with access to my neural network, reading my synaptic firings, all the while tapping into my emotional center; he has not a clue as to what I am “feeling”.

In my simple request, I have not asked for any monetary damages for defamation and slander or compensation for pain and suffering. I simply asked that Bob Kuczewski stop representing himself as my spokes person, misrepresenting my beliefs and motives, and now stop telling the world how I feel.

Scott Wise, we can do this the simple way or we can do this the legal way. The legal way can get expensive. This post by Bob Kuczewski, “Michael Grisham’s Confession” would not be helpful to your case nor associating my name with pedophilia. There is an appearance of defamation and slander on the part of Bob Kuczewski.

Furthermore, you will be defending Bob Kuczewski who has reaped devastation throughout the Hang Gliding Community and Hang Gliding Forums making Sherman look like a Cub Scout. The fact that Bob Kuczewski has been banded from the USHPA, the national organization representing hang gliding, and banned from multiple Hang Gliding Internet Forums, will not be in your favor. Do you want witnesses of Bob’s character to take the stand? Take a step back, take stock of your chances, Scott. It will be Bob and the whole US Hawks Board together.

This is my first warning ever on a Hang Gliding Forum, and I am just trying to defend myself against a bully, Bob Kuczewski.

So instead of Bob Kuczewski telling the world what my “feelings” are, let me tell you.

I feel like I have had the “Star of Oppression” sown on my lapel by Bob Kuczewski. This is not to minimize those of the Jewish Faith who experienced the holocaust, but how I feel as result of Bob posting “The Wall of Shame” and Bob’s continual degradation post after post, month after month. I did nothing shameful. I have spoken up for Joe Faust. I have even spoken up for Bob Kuczewski with the general standing threat of being banned on Hanggliding.org.

I am following the law of the land regarding the ownership rights of the press with regard to publishing and editing, and the publisher being responsible for their content. I defend and am respectful of everyone’s rights whomever they maybe.

I am now speaking up for myself, Frank Colver, Tom “Red” Howard and the Hang Gliding Community against a bully, Bob Kuczewski.

Bob Kuczewski can put the notion to rest right now that I am afraid to speak up under the threat of being banned from a Hang Gliding Forum. I will honorably take a stand and defend my beliefs.

I am simply asking my request to be considered in good faith.

My request is: Bob Kuczewski stop representing yourself as my spokes person, misrepresenting my beliefs and motives; and now stop telling the world how I feel, very simple.

“All it takes for evil to thrive is for good men to do nothing.”

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Re: Michael Grisham’s Reply to Scott Wise

Postby wingspan33 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:36 pm

Michael Grisham,

I think your a wonderful guy. And while I haven't read your above post, I think you feel that it is justified.

I did notice something about Bob K being a "bully" but that leads me to ask you a question. You've published more than one confrontational post about Bob being a bully here on the US Hawks. But there's a bully over on SG.org who you completely ignore. Or, perhaps whom you are so afraid of, that you have said not one word against anything he has done. Things that most (moral) people would see as destructive to a healthy and friendly hang gliding community. Over there (at sg.org) you (say nothing or) are silenced by a bully. But over here (where some earlier post of your's suggests), where you (also) think you don't have freedom of speech, you are loudly SHOUTING that Bob is a bully.

Please explain to me how a wonderful guy such as yourself can be the same person on sg.org and over here on the US Hawks? How does a man with an obvious spine, while on the US Hawks, change to the spineless type over on sg.org. To me these two apparent features of the same man are contradictory and, therefore, impossible. Could you please help me understand?
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Re: Michael Grisham’s Reply to Scott Wise

Postby Free » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:38 pm

Michael,
So much of what you write has the same suspicious logic of your friend hawk891.
You're also saying bad things about people, much like you are accusing others of doing.
I don't think you have much to sue about. You are making it worse than it really is.
You were triggered and you can't take the heat.
Who knew you were so thin skinned?
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Re: Michael Grisham’s Reply to Scott Wise

Postby magentabluesky » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:54 pm

Scott Wise wrote:Over there (at sg.org) you (say nothing or) are silenced by a bully.


Scott,

You are misinformed. Your statement is not true.

Back on Dec 11, 2018 when Bob was making those same claims, I honestly went back on Hanggliding.org and reread my posts. Reading those posts, I actually could not believe the support I was giving Joe and not only was I supporting Joe, I was supporting Bob in spite of Jack’s standing rule against posting anything about Bob. So there is the giant hole in Bob’s lying fraud about me being afraid to speak up for fear of being banned. So you tell me, how many times do I have explain this.

Postby magentabluesky » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:07 pm
Bob, I went back and read my posts last night.

To be quite frank, I cannot believe the support I poured out in Joe’s defense. Go back and read my posts.

Not only was I posting in Joe’s defense, I was pushing the limit in defending Bob Kuczewski and other pilots made comments that if I kept that up I would be banned too. I spoke the truth and could care less if I am banned.

I am holding my head up high.Link


Scott Wise wrote:And while I haven't read your above post . . .


So are you going to read my post and consider it or do you just don’t give a sh-t. Is that being a responsible publisher and editor of a Hang Gliding Forum?

Do you think you are going to attract Hang Gliding pilots to your forum when you don’t care about pilots and it is ok for Bob to bully people?

That is truly how you are coming across.
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Re: Michael Grisham’s Reply to Scott Wise

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:30 pm

Michael,

Here's a sincere suggestion for you. Please post all of the posts that you've made to hanggliding.org in Joe's defense. I believe there was more than one. Please include links if they still exist. Please document any that you had posted but Jack deleted. Please post them in the Board's discussion of your cease and desist request since they are relevant to that proceeding.

Maybe you've posted more in Joe's defense than we've been able to see because Jack's either deleted or buried them. Maybe you've been a victim of Jack's abuses by having your own good defense of Joe be obliterated or obscured.

Sincerely,
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