[SamKellner]

With safe-splat: Use the sailplane runway for HG training.
Now.
I will do hang gliding on the runway the next time I visit Torrey park.

Only with safe-splat

[dhmartens]

UCSD may have just desecrated a Kumeyaay Native American Sacred Burial Mound.

http://www.thomaslarson.com/publication ... -dead.html
"...If the coroner decides the bones have been there a long time, he calls a Native American monitor like Carmen Lucas to oversee the find. When the 72-year-old Laguna Indian arrives at the site, she says she can feel the disturbed spirit, wailing at being unloosed. “The poor soul,” Lucas tells me, has been rudely returned from the afterlife, her long journey interrupted. “I can’t tell you how painful it is,” she says. There’s as much anguish for Lucas as there is for the disinterred. Neither can rest until the bones are reburied.
Lucas is devoted to keeping the ancestors’ burial sites untouched. In La Jolla that means reminding anyone who’ll listen that much of the enclave sits on known and unknown Indian graves. When she has the floor, Lucas talks without stopping; her monotone sidles from legal issues to creation myths. She’s tired of seeing mounds of dirt with “human remains in it, whether it’s arms, legs, or femur bone.”
One excavation in La Jolla that Lucas was monitoring yielded a frightening find. She reports that she heard an archaeologist who was “beating a clod of dirt to death in her hand,” let go a scream that “I will never forget." She "realized she was holding in her hand the full skull of a 5000-year-old inhumation.”..."

http://www.sandiegoarchaeology.org/Layl ... burial.htm
"....San Diego County. The remains of a young adult male were found "in an earth burial mound approximately 9 by 12 ft. in horizontal dimensions, covered with various sized stones of irregular shape" (S. Rogers 1977:2). ..."




http://www.yelp.com/biz/san-diego-archa ... -escondido

[Jacmac]

As soon as UCSD put up the no parking posts right across the sail plane runway, it was over for that piece of land. No amount of action on the part of the USHPA or the TPSC would have amounted to anything material. The City of San Diego donated the land, so they might have been able to persuade UCSD to not mess with that area, but the reality is that they should have given that land to the park instead of UCSD. The city screwed this up 50 years ago. Oh well, Torrey will probably be shut down next year anyhow.

[Bob Kuczewski]

Hi Brian!!       

You might not know the history because it was before your time as President, but we were asking for help from the Soaring Council (and USHPA's representative to that Council) long before the no parking signs went up. In fact, I even remember mentioning it to Brad Hall when he was the new Regional Director taking over from Tad Hurst when Jebb was still RD. That was on one of the days that I was volunteering as a gate guard for the sailplanes so their tow rope didn't get dirt ground into it by cars driving over it. Brad Hall huffed and said that training hill was no good because it was "in the rotor" (it's my understanding that he never got along well with Bill Bennett).

I had also asked about buying USHPA site insurance for that hill (and Torrey Pines itself) many times through the Torrey Hawks. But USHPA (Mark Forbes and his cohorts) refused to sell it to us.

It's not clear that any of those things would have saved that hill, but they sure wouldn't have hurt anything to have been tried. I suspect - without current proof - that Jebb saw the sailplane operations and that training hill as annoyances to his paragliding business. He put up with the sailplane guys because he needed their votes on the Soaring Council. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was stabbing them in the back at the same time.

[Bob Kuczewski]

This is a video from the spring of 2010. Bill Armstrong and I went to the San Diego City Council to talk about the Gliderport.

I spoke about extending the Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board.
Bill spoke about saving the Bennett Bunny Hill.

Sadly, we were both ignored.

https://youtu.be/KgyFAqi1zRQ