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Guns and Paragliding

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:45 am

There have been numerous reports of paragliding being used as a "poor man's air force" for both legal and illegal purposes. Uses include drug smuggling, surveillance, and law enforcement.

It's been long suspected that segments of the paragliding community are involved with some of these legal and/or illegal aspects of the sport. This has particular relevance to hang gliding since it may explain why the sport of paragliding seems to have a "protected" status at places like Torrey Pines and USHPA.

This topic is a place to discuss these issues, and it was prompted by the recent post by Eagle containing these photos:

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Re: Guns and Paragliding

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:47 am

Torrey Pines Connection to Paragliding and Law Enforcement

ABC News story at:
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Paragliders Give Cops an Eye in the Sky
PALM BAY, Fla., May 9, 2009
By JOEL SIEGEL and STEPHANIE SY via World News


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The Palm Bay, Fla., Police Department has become the first in the nation to put its officers in powered paragliders. The gliders have the ability to fly at low altitudes and controlled, low speeds, which may be useful in search-and-rescue operations and some types of surveillance.


In one Florida community, cops are not just walking the beat, they are soaring high above it.

The Palm Bay Police Department in Florida has become the first in the nation to put its officers in powered paragliders, the ultra-light flying machines usually associated with adventure sports, not police work.

Police Chief Bill Berger says they are a way for the department to have a bird's eye view of the semi-rural city at minimal cost.

"Because we don't have a lot of roadway here, this gives us the ability to basically take short cuts," said Berger.

Four officers are training to fly the powered paragliders, including Lt. Mark Renkins, who has flown recreationally for several years.

"It doesn't replace a helicopter or a fixed-wing [airplane]," said Renkins. "But it gives the department some aerial capability, when it had none at all."

It costs about $10,000 to purchase the paragliding equipment and pay for training, which makes it a more affordable option for the 150-officer Palm Bay Police Department.

The gliders consist of little more than a seat tethered to a parachute and powered, essentially, by an oversized lawn-mower engine. The paraglider uses about a gallon of gas per hour.

The gliders have the ability to fly at low altitudes and controlled, low speeds, which may be useful in search-and-rescue operations and some types of surveillance.

Palm Bay, Fla., is a sprawling community spanning more than 100 square miles with a substantial retirement community. Chief Berger sees the gliders as an ideal tool for searching for missing elderly people who have wandered away.

"The problem with helicopters is you can't go below 1,000 feet," said Berger. "The canopy of trees in our community prevented the helicopter from seeing a woman who had [died] close to her car. The paragliders would have been able to get much lower."

Weather Limits Paraglider Use

But there are limitations to the paragliders, weather being the biggest. Paragliders are at the mercy of winds, and when the Florida sun heats the ground quickly, wind turbulence can ground the gliders from mid-morning to late afternoon.

However, "even if the window is short, they can get a lot done in the small amount of time that they have got," said Phil Russman, a paragliding instructor who has been training the Palm Bay police officers.

Another limitation is that the paraglider must always have a spot to land. Because Palm Bay is surrounded by spacious rural areas, this is less of a problem. But the paragliders might be far less practical in more urban environments.

"The more congested the area ... the less options you have for landing safely," said Renkins.

Still, he added, "It's better to have in our opinion some capability of seeing from the air than having none at all."

The pilot program has the blessing of the U.S. Justice Department, which encourages police departments in small and rural towns to experiment with low-cost ways to get in the air. According to the department, out of almost 19,000 law enforcement agencies in the nation, only about 300 of them have aviation assets.

In an e-mail, Michael O'Shea, a law enforcement program manager, wrote, "We [are] looking for safe and low-cost aviation technologies that would allow an agency to have that "eye-in-the-sky" to look for marijuana grows and meth labs; to take pictures of critical infrastructure like schools and public buildings; to search for lost children, hikers, boaters; and to assess the damage from natural and man-made disasters."

Other Experiments

The DOJ's Aviation Technology Program is also exploring unmanned aircraft and light-sport, fixed-wing aircraft.

There has been some initial success with powered parachutes, which are similar to paragliders, but larger and more unwieldy. O'Shea said a police department in Sells, Ariz., recently used a powered parachute to recover two bodies that had been washed out of a car in rising water.

"The ability to give closure to the families quickly was the best result of this flight mission," wrote O'Shea.

The Palm Bay program is supported by paraglider manufacturer Dudek. The company has loaned the police department two gas-powered paragliders. After six months, the department will assess whether the gliders are effective and decide whether to purchase them for about $25,000.

Palm Bay's high-flying officers certainly are sold on them.

"It's a lot more fun to patrol in that than in a patrol car," said Renkens. "Absolutely."


It's important to note that David Jebb (former San Diego Police Officer) has been connected to the Torrey Pines Gliderport since 1998 - which means he was in charge there on September 11th, 2001 - when law enforcement and aviation met head on. Is this one of the missing pieces in the inexplicable actions of the City of San Diego in failing to oversee the Torrey Pines Gliderport concessionaire for the past decade?
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Re: Guns and Paragliding

Postby Rick Masters » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:30 pm



"Scot Adair has done a lot of training with us. He charged us nothing. He became a volunteer, officially, with the police department and he does all our training."

Police paragliders stuck on ground
12:27 AM, May 26, 2009
Unexpected engine problems and higher-than-normal winds have kept a fledgling paragliding sky patrol program from taking flight. Last month, Palm Bay Police Department Chief William Berger announced the formation of a four-man team using a power glider for search and surveillance. It drew national attention after a story in FLORIDA TODAY, including a report on "ABC Nightly News."

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VIDEO http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/brevard-county/Pilot-killed-when-gyrocopter-crashes-at-Brevard-airport/19936930

Palm Bay police Capt. Mark Renkens released the following statement:

"Scott Adair was a dear personal friend as well as a friend of the Palm Bay Police Department. Scott introduced me to the sport of powered paragliding (PPG) approximately 6 years ago. I underwent my flight training with Scott and we've been flying together ever since. In 2009 former Palm Bay Police Lieutenant Joe Eakins, Scott and I proposed the idea of using powered paragliders for law enforcement use. This idea was to become a reality and the Palm Bay Police SOAR (Search Operations Aerial Response) Unit was created. The program garnered nationwide media attention as nothing like this had ever been done before. Scott also trained two of our pilots at no cost to the agency and gave countless hours of time to the program. In 2011 Palm Bay Police Department's SOAR unit won the very prestigious Alliance for Innovation Award which is awarded by the International Association of City Managers. Scott was also heavily involved with our Dive Team. He attended training sessions and offered to do anything that was needed, no matter how dirty or difficult the task was.

Scott was also the chairman of the Palm Bay Para-Fly In, the second of which just occurred in March of this year. The Palm Bay Para-Fly in was more than a gathering of PPG Pilots from around the world but also a primary fundraiser for the Palm Bay Police Athletic League. Of the two Para-Fly Ins, the event raised over $12,000 for our Police Athletic League.

Scott is survived by his wife Bobbie, His daughter Robyn and his son Ryan. He was so proud of his kids and spoke about them often. Scott positively impacted many lives and he will be missed.

I ask that God be with Scott's family and friends during this difficult time."

Police officer dead in New Mexico paraglider crash
http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/index.php/sid/232932577

For several years, Renkens also helped to develop the department's SOAR program which allowed officers to deploy powered paragliders — traditionally seen as recreational aircraft — to patrol the city from above during searches, crime scenes and other situations.

It is still an outdoor hobby that Renkens, known for his steady, focused demeanor, enjoys. He even had a video of one of his flights posted on YouTube, showing what was then the lush, mostly undeveloped land later used to build the Palm Bay Heritage Parkway.

"We stopped the program but I still do it as a hobby," the former SWAT team member and detective said.
http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2015/01/15/new-chief-need-humanize/21815813/
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Re: Guns and Paragliding

Postby Frank Colver » Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:09 pm

I decided to never fly a gyrocopter before I decided to never fly a paraglider. Basically any aircraft that will fall straight down after departing from a normal flying attitude and can't recover. Once the rotor stops in a hard stall - oops. Or once the gliding parachute collapses - oops. That also goes for a "standard" Rogollo without significant keel reflex, or a "sail feather" in full luff - oops. Other wise: "Don't fly higher than you care to fall". Hmm- that has a familiar ring to it. :think:

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Blind Guns and Paragliding

Postby eagle » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:34 am

The Influence
So these Must be the blind that tolerate their own corruption.
They Push for control of Torrey Pines Gliderport - a Public Historical Flight Park
The Need for Privatization of our Park, while allowing the Fall of Hang gliding.
Allowing the Use of Crystal Meth, Turning their Heads as the Stoned temple pilots Run Tandem Flights

With All the Skill & Presence of Law Enforcement ~ if Not Negligence ~ this is Plain Corruption

~ So tell Me Who will fix it and repair the damage to the Victims & Witness ~

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Re: Guns and Paragliding

Postby wingspan33 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:13 am

If I were a hardened criminal within the US, or some other enemy of the US - in country or out - I would have very little concern for (powered?) collapsible canopy police or military operations. All you have to do is wait for a windy day, a thermally day, a rainy day, a foggy day, or maybe even a seriously cold day. On those days the police or military will not be flying their collapsible air force units.

And then there's the noise they (the powered units) make on otherwise nice days. It's probably not too hard to hear them coming. :roll:

Oh, and doesn't the FAA have regulations about flying over cities and any other congested area? Have various law enforcement agencies received waivers from the FAA allowing their (powered?) collapsible canopies to fly over high (density) crime areas and "surveil" those below? Perhaps they're just surveiling over open cornfields?

On the military side, they could use (powered?) collapsible canopies when the weather was suitable and could probably get away with doing so in nearly every military theater. But at this point in time remotely piloted aircraft are SOOOOOOoooooo much more useful and flexable - and you don't have to worry about the pilot being shot at, or, the canopy collapsing.

Now, terrorists might actually like the idea of using (powered?) collapsible canopy aircraft (partly because it can be so terrifying to fly one! :srofl: ). After all, certain factions like the idea of dieing at the end of their mission. That can actually be much easier to accomplish on a PPG.

IMHO, I would say that illegal drug smugglers (crossing the border between Mexico and the US, let's say) would find (powered?) collapsible canopies to be more useful than almost any other group. Again, they could fly when they want. They could (or likely would) even fly at night - at relatively low (or high?) altitudes - using modern flight instruments (including 3D GPS).

They would have little problem taking off just south of the border in Mexico and flying 10 or so miles north and landing (with power cut?) in some small out of the way field in the US. LOTS of money could be made doing just this kind of illegal business. 20 - 30K investment could yield several million $ in profit in not more than a few months. All a person would need is the right contacts in each country and some pilots adequately skilled at flying the powered collapsible canopies. Then just add some training in doing the kind of (night?) flying that's required. Could be a few people would have to be paid off here and there as well, but isn't that always the case? :roll:

As far as a famous city park flying site in the SW US being somehow involved in one or another version of the above scenarios, . . . I'm not going to bet on any of them being likely. The most not unlikely might be the fairy tale near the end.

Realistically considering the situation, a free lease on city property (one form or another of "sweetheart deal"), where you, as the concessionaire, can make multi-millions of dollars a year, . . . Well, that seems like ample reason to act thuggish toward anyone who (rightly or wrongly) objects publicly as to how you are managing the facility.

If such a "deal" was not honestly derived to begin with, or somewhere along the way, then those associated with the "deal" would look VERY negatively on someone working to shine light under the figurative "rock" that's involved. Sometimes such "deals" involve violations of the law and, upon discovery, can even put people in prison. Even more of a motive to shut down the "light shiners".
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Re: Guns and Paragliding

Postby Rick Masters » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:10 pm

1976: We were there first! With full auto weapons and gernades, no less.

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Re: Guns and Paragliding

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:40 am

October 7th, 2023

From AviationWeek.com: https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/budget-policy-operations/hamas-paragliders-join-surprise-assault-israel

Hamas Paragliders Join Surprise Assault On Israel
Steve Trimble October 07, 2023

Hamas fighters breached Israel’s southern border from the Gaza Strip using powered paragliders for the first time on Oct. 7 as part of a widespread, surprise ground invasion and barrage of unguided rockets.

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Videos posted online showed several Hamas fighters flying over Israel’s border fence on powered paragliders, which consists of a seat, motor and parafoil. At the same time, Hamas fighters entered Israel all across the northern and eastern borders of the 150 sq. mi. Gaza Strip.



These are some of the videos available this morning. Note that several of these have misused the term "hang glider" when it's obvious that these were paragliders:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF5vPfqtJBM




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UPSU2dEJbM




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGB5AMVlVLY




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHVVIxm4p5w



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16SB6uBg55M

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Re: Guns and Paragliding

Postby Craig Muhonen » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:06 am

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Spot on Bob, Eagle, Rick, Wingspan33.

Utube Sanctioned Hamas Paraglider Attackers

:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: USHPA :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

Did anybody doubt this? They have been training for years for this day. We must be "Locked and Loaded". :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHVVIxm4p5w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF5vPfqtJBM


We must come out of the cave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nHj3gL_JN0



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Re: Guns and Paragliding

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:59 pm

Thanks for finding and posting that footage Craig.

Also, those "After Skool" videos are very well done!!
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