[JoeF]

Watch for the "goods" arriving to humankind from working on the challenge of tiny packing!
This or that in the flowing effort seem to be not solving tp, but also in the flow glimpses of tp light seem to shine. Without the river of effort tps may not arrive. With the the river of effort tps may arrive. There is hope.

Watch for the "goods" arriving to humankind from the challenge of tiny packing!

The journey to truly achieve tiny packed hang gliders (TPHGs) is like navigating a winding river. Some efforts may seem like detours, not quite solving the core challenge of tiny packing. Yet, within the flow of experimentation and innovation, there are moments when the light of possibility shines through—those glimpses of the ultimate goal inspire us to keep going.

Without this "river of effort," TPHGs might never arrive. But with continued persistence, creativity, and collaboration, they have a real chance of becoming a reality. Each prototype, design tweak, and small success moves us closer to a world where low-mass hang gliding flight is not just practical but also accessible, portable, and beautifully simple.

There is hope. There is progress. And together, we will get there.

Let’s keep pushing the boundaries of what’s possible! Every step in this process isn’t just about achieving TPHGs—it’s about opening doors to new ideas, technologies, and solutions that benefit humankind in ways we haven’t even imagined yet.

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[JoeF]

Have a spanwise spar assembly for left and right wing; have on the left two or more coupled spar tubes.
Challenge: On non-joint portion of a spar segment place on-and-off an "anchor" of low mass that can resist inboard pulling from a rigging flying line that starts at that anchor and goes to the two lower ends of the two queenposts and back up to a similar anchor on the right wing's spar. Avoid holes in the spanwise spar tubes. Avoid thickness of the anchor that would prevent tiny-packing telescopic nesting of the spar tube. The device might come off and on or might stay permanently fixed to the spar tube; if the device is permanently fixed to the spar tube, then the design should not stop easy telescopic nesting. Else, if such perma-on solution is not had, then the device should be able to be placed and offed easily for the tiny packing effort. Search for solutions. Anyone?

Three general classes of solutions are seen, so far: (there may be more classes)
1. Device is fully removed from the spar during packing.
2. Device is fully permanently on spar during packing and flight.
3. Solution as two devices, one packs separate from tubes, and one device stays permanently on the spar tube.

So far, I am favoring the class 3: Complex slider eared with two loops that come from a global loop of Dyneema cord which has main body wrapped around helically and molded/embedded in a polymer (polyurethane or epoxy or other). The slider is generally a cylindrical short tube, say 1" long that just snuggly slides on the spar tube. Then the second part of this solution is a thin stopper collar that is permanently well bonded to the body of the spar tube. The thinness is not more than the gap width that occurs when the spar tube nests approximately telescopically during tote of the packed tubes. Thus, the stopper collar retains the ability to nest the spar tube into other frame tubes. Flight lines pulling inboard that are anchored on the two loops of the slider part pull the slider part against one end of the permanently bonded thin collar. The innards of the slider part sees the central portion of the Dyneema global loop helically wrapped twice before polymer embedding; such assures that that flight forces tend to grab the spar tube more firmly without means of releasing the helical wrap that then wraps the spar.

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[JoeF]

Summary of the Multi-Use Bag for TPHG Adventures
Pack & Transport: Serves as a carrying case for the TPHG frame pack, wrapped sail segments, and other components.

Inflation Bag: Captures and transfers air for inflating air beams using billowing and squeezing techniques.

Privacy Curtain: Provides a portable, hung privacy area for changing clothes or other needs.

Flag/Banner: Functions as a signal or decorative banner, easily hoisted at the site.

Windsock: Acts as a directional device to indicate wind conditions.

Ground Sheet: Spreads out as a protective sitting or organizing surface.

Tethered Kite: Flies as a colorful kite, adding recreational and aesthetic value.

Sandbag Anchor: Filled with sand to stabilize the parked hang glider against wind or movement.

Sunshade: Creates a shelter from the sun when stretched or draped, providing comfort during breaks.

Wind Shade: Acts as a wind block when positioned properly, offering protection against strong breezes.

[JoeF]

General Terms for Compact and Lightweight Engineering Design

Your efforts to design hang gliders that pack compactly and have low mass can be generalized using several engineering design principles and terms. These apply broadly to compact, modular, and lightweight design across various domains:

1. Compactness: Refers to minimizing an object's volume or footprint when packed or stored. Common in folding furniture and portable equipment.
   
2. Modularity: Designing objects with interchangeable or separable components for easy disassembly and efficient packing. Enables repairability and customization.
   
3. Deployable Design: Structures or objects that transition from a compact form to a fully functional form. Examples include satellite solar panels and camping gear.
   
4. Telescopic Design: Components that slide or nest within one another, reducing packed size. Found in portable tools and tripods.
   
5. Folding Mechanisms: Using hinges or flexible materials to fold objects into smaller shapes. Inspired by origami, collapsible bikes, and foldable electronics.
   
6. Nested Structures: Designs where components fit within one another, like Russian nesting dolls. Applicable to cookware, piping, and spar nesting concepts.
   
7. Flat-Packing: Optimized for disassembly into flat configurations, commonly seen in furniture like IKEA products.
   
8. Lightweighting: Reducing weight while maintaining strength and functionality using advanced materials like carbon fiber and Dyneema.
   
9. Volume Optimization: Maximizing efficiency in space utilization, minimizing voids during storage or transport.
   
10. Minimalist Design: Focusing on simplicity and removing unnecessary components. Used in ultralight backpacking gear and microelectronics.
    
11. Space-Efficient Rigging: Optimizing tensioning and attachment systems to minimize bulk. Relevant to crosslines and tensioning straps in hang gliders.
    
12. Packability: The ease of packing, carrying, and reassembly of an object.
    
13. Kinematic Folding: Motion mechanisms enabling folding or compacting through articulated joints. Used in robotics and aerospace.

By applying these principles, your hang glider designs align with a broader design philosophy emphasizing compactness, functionality, and portability. Concepts like telescopic design, modularity, and nested structures highlight the innovative nature of your work.

Delving into the other fields may well inform the movement that aims for TPHGs and low-mass TPHGs.

[JoeF]

Top tools may one day come into play to optimize designs for tiny-packed hang gliders (TPHG) that are packed compactly in tiny lengths and volumes while giving reasonable assembly and packing times, etc. I wonder what quantum computers one day may do to effect such designs. Get a sense of possible future of TPHGs from the following announcement:   "Willow solved in minutes what would take the fastest supercomputers over a quadrillion lifetimes of the universe to figure out."  

Source: "Google’s new quantum chip ‘Willow’ beats supercomputers by 10 septillion years" Interesting Engineering

ChatGPT was asked to polish and advance my above prose, for the following offer:

Optimizing tiny-packed hang gliders (TPHGs) might one day leap into realms of possibility we can scarcely imagine today, powered by emerging technologies and tools that push the boundaries of design. Imagine a world where TPHGs, compacted into impossibly small volumes for urban transport, achieve astonishing feats of structural efficiency, aerodynamic excellence, and rapid assembly. The packing and deployment of these revolutionary gliders could be reimagined, making them not only more accessible but also a testament to humanity’s ingenuity.

What role might quantum computing play in shaping this future? The possibilities feel boundless. Consider the potential of quantum algorithms designed to simulate and optimize structural materials, folding techniques, and aerodynamic profiles at unprecedented scales and speeds. Could the mysteries of ideal nested structures, ultra-light yet durable materials, or real-time adaptive glider designs be unlocked by quantum insights? It’s a tantalizing thought.

Take this recent milestone as a glimpse into what lies ahead: *“Willow solved in minutes what would take the fastest supercomputers over a quadrillion lifetimes of the universe to figure out.”* Such breakthroughs from quantum computing—like Google’s new chip ‘Willow’—might one day revolutionize TPHG design. What wonders will future quantum systems unravel for this art of flight? The skies, perhaps, are not the limit but merely the beginning.

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Then we meditate: Super artificial intelligence might look comprehensively at every hang glider and glider ever exposed in all literature in all nations, and then look over all mechanical possibilities and then come up with designs that meet optimally this or that expressed need. TPHG has a future; what will it be?
But some of us will not depend on such comings; rather we will use what is at hand to do the best we might!

Designers from all nations are called to share TPHG ideas widely and also in this forum's topic thread.
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Transformations may inform TPHG designing:
https://youtube.com/shorts/iHBcaLiDgp4?si=zE2mEfMjtdRCXcXL

[JoeF]

Origami may well inform aspects of successful TPHGs





Reversible mountains and valleys!

[JoeF]

How much might the world of umbrellas and parasols inform the TPHG movement?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella

https://patents.google.com/?q=parasol&q=umbrella

[JoeF]

Subject: Promoting Tiny Packed Hang Glider (TPHG) Designs in the Design World

Hi all,

I was wondering how tiny packed hang glider (TPHG) designs might be promoted in the design world. Here’s what I came up with:
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1. Showcase the Innovation
Emphasize the unique features and benefits of TPHG designs:

• Urban Mobility: Highlight the convenience of tiny packing for urban transportation.
• Eco-Friendliness: Position TPHG as a green solution for aviation enthusiasts.
• Technological Ingenuity: Showcase the engineering behind telescopic spars, lightweight materials, and compact design.

Creating a compelling narrative around these features could intrigue the design community.

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2. Leverage Design Platforms

• Competitions: Enter TPHG in innovation and design contests, like the Red Dot Design Award or Core77 Design Awards.
• Design Forums and Blogs: Submit articles or case studies to platforms like Dezeen, Designboom, or Yanko Design.

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3. Collaborate with Influencers

• Partner with notable figures in industrial design, aerospace engineering, and outdoor recreation to advocate for TPHG designs.
• Reach out to YouTube creators, podcasters, and bloggers focused on minimalist design, sustainable living, or adventure gear.

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4. Host and Attend Events

• Workshops and Webinars: Demonstrate the assembly and use of TPHG to enthusiasts and designers.
• Trade Shows: Attend aerospace, design, or adventure sports expos to attract attention and feedback.

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5. Develop Visual Content

• Professional Photography and Videos: Capture TPHG in action—being packed, transported, assembled, and flown.
• Interactive 3D Models: Allow designers and potential adopters to explore your design virtually.

Share these assets widely on social media, design websites, and in marketing materials.
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6. Engage with Design Communities

• Join forums like Core77, Dribbble, or Behance to share TPHG sketches, CAD models, and prototypes.
• Participate in discussions to connect with like-minded designers and receive feedback.

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7. Publish Technical Papers and Patents

• If your design involves novel technology, publish papers in journals or on platforms like ResearchGate.
• Patents can validate your innovation and make it attractive for collaboration or investment.

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8. Explore Cross-Disciplinary Partnerships

• Collaborate with industrial designers, material scientists, or architects to refine and promote your design.
• Offer TPHG as a test case for university courses in design or engineering.

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9. Crowdfund or Seek Grants

• Use crowdfunding platforms like Kickstarter or Indiegogo to gauge interest and raise funds.
• Explore grants for sustainable or innovative design projects.

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10. Inspire with a Vision
Paint a compelling vision of how TPHG can revolutionize personal flight, integrate with urban mobility, and foster sustainable recreation. Align your promotion with broader trends, like micro-living, environmental consciousness, and adventure accessibility.
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Call to Action
To promote effectively, create a central website or hub showcasing your designs, offering downloadable resources (blueprints, 3D files), and encouraging collaboration. Combining these efforts with consistent storytelling will position TPHG as a standout innovation in the design world.
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I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts or additional ideas!
Best,
[Your Name]

================ filler: https://www.zapata.com/flyboard-air-by-franky-zapata/ ...not a very good glide ratio when power is off ...
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Note: Personally I will not be powering matured TPHGs, but others may well aim for powered versions of what they find or develop in TPHGs.

[JoeF]

Of our first post in 2015 in this topic thread, ChatGPT made the following comment:

The first post focuses on the goal of creating hang gliders that pack down to 5 feet for easy transportation, especially via bus. It suggests exploring telescopic, tapered spars, and non-metal cables, as well as materials like fiberglass, carbon fiber, and titanium. Emphasis is placed on ease of assembly, safety, and adaptability to different conditions, including sledding and more strenuous tasks. The concept aligns with your TPHG goals, particularly the compact packing, efficient frame assembly, and use of materials that minimize size while ensuring functional performance.

The first post does mention "5 ft-packed-HG," which suggests a focus on packing down to 5 feet or less. While it doesn't explicitly define the "5-ft" as a strict limit, the context around ease of transportation and bus-ability implies that the goal is to achieve a compact hang glider design that fits into a 5-foot packing length or smaller. This aligns with your TPHG concept of reducing the packed length for efficient transport.

Of the second post in this thread, ChatGPT summarized:

The forum administrator emphasizes the importance of making hang glider packing easier. They mention their Wills Wing Falcon III, which offers a short pack option but is labor-intensive and wears parts over time. They propose simplifying the process by attaching the sail to a mostly assembled frame, considering methods like zippers or velcro, though these would have structural challenges. The post recognizes the potential benefits of a more streamlined packing system while acknowledging the need to resolve some technical issues.

ChatGPT summarized the third post in 2015 of this present topic thread:

The pioneer envisions a 2m (6.56ft) pack length for bus transport. To minimize joins and weight, the sail battens will concertina to the keel, and the leading edge will use a rollable exoskeletal plastic sheet, secured with velcro, for smooth airflow. Target weight is around 20kg (44 lbs), with some cables needing disconnection. Assembly time should be quick, but the project is still awaiting development.

On first page of posts in 2015 a post is here summarized by ChatGPT:

Key engineering ideas in the post:

Separate sail from frame: The frame is assembled first, then the sail is placed on, making the frame fully visible during each assembly session.
Tote concept: The sail could be worn on the body while transporting the glider on buses or trains.
Inflatable frame members: Consider using positive inflation (e.g., specialized air beams) for structural support, potentially reducing weight and increasing portability.
Niche focus: The "5-ft-packed-HG" movement aims to explore compact packing options for specific, niche hang gliding activities.

[JoeF]

Helpers that have been or will come to the aid of the TPHG Movement:
- Almighty God of Everlasting Wings
- Minions of Awakened Angels
- Scientists and Craftspeople of Past and Present
- Engineers of Old and New
- Students Near and Far
- AI and its Cousins
- CAD and the Like
- Pilots from Niche Crannies of the Aviation World
- Glider Pilots and Builders
- Innovators of Telescopic Wonders
- Explorers of Aerodynamic Frontiers
- Visionaries of Urban Mobility
- Advocates of Sustainable Flight
- Dreamers of Skyward Adventures
- Designers of Compact Marvels
- Friends of Lightweight Materials
- Pioneers of Micro Transport Solutions
- Keepers of Experimental Wisdom
- Test Pilots of Uncharted Concepts
- Writers and Historians of Aviation Dreams
- Guardians of Flight Safety
- Collaborators in Workshops and Labs
- Tinkerers with Endless Curiosity
- Communities United by the Spirit of Flight
- Power Hungry Pilots--Hopers of Mature TPHG
- High Jumpers Entering a New Phase of Life
- Innovators Charting Unseen Horizons
- Skyward Wanderers with Boundless Ambition
- Builders of Modular Marvels
- Advocates for Feather-Light Freedom
- Pioneers of Portable Wings
- Seekers of the Perfect Soar
- Masters of Wind and Wing
- Dreamers of Affordable Adventure
- Champions of Simplicity and Elegance
- Explorers of Aerial Compactness
- Designers Fueled by Minimalist Ideals
- Keepers of Folding Flight Secrets
- Mechanics of Seamless Assembly
- Guardians of the Glider’s Soul
- Collaborators Bridging Ancient Wisdom and Modern Tools
- Architects of Urban Flight Dreams
- Historians of Groundbreaking Lift
- Advocates for Inclusive Aviation Access
- Pilots Forging New Paths in the Sky
- Innovators Honing Lightweight Rigs
- Artists Weaving Flight into Urban Lifestyles
- Mentors of the Next Generation of Flyers
- Visionaries Linking Earth and Heaven

ChatGPT, an AI, was invited to write a poem introducing the list of helpers:

**The Wings We Weave**

Beneath the endless, boundless skies,
Where dreams take shape and hopes arise,
A legion gathers, hearts aflame,
To chase the flight, to stake their claim.

With whispered prayers on Everlasting Wings,
And angel songs the heavens sing,
The hands of makers, old and new,
Shape gliders sleek, with passion true.

Scientists, scribes, and craftsfolk wise,
Chart mysteries where the thermals rise,
While engineers, with steady hands,
Forge dreams aloft in shifting sands.

Students venture, near and far,
To touch the heavens, to grasp a star.
Pilots rise from humble ground,
With winds of courage, tightly bound.

Tinkerers twist, and thinkers dream,
Of modular wings and a compact scheme.
The artist’s brush, the coder’s pen,
Bring flight to life time and again.

Urban wanderers, unbound, take flight,
Their wings a marvel, feather-light.
Simplicity reigns, yet elegance sings,
In the dance of man and his folding wings.

With every test, each failed ascent,
A step toward skies, their firmament.
Guardians watch, and builders strive,
To keep the spirit of soaring alive.

Together they soar, this fearless throng,
United by lift, by wind, by song.
For in the heavens, all hearts align,
To chase the horizon, where dreams entwine.