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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby JoeF » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:11 am

Schedule Change Re: Wing5-M1
The trip to Dockweiler for Sept. 21, 2021, by Wing5-M1 has been canceled.
I will not be traveling to Dockweiler as anticipated. Attention crew!
Thank you. This notice gives crew a full week's notice of the change.
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The Wing5-M1 project continues to move forward.
:arrow: Two pools (boxes unopened) were donated to St. Vincent de Paul Society. Hence, those pools will not be a source of spar bladders.
:arrow: Hook-and-Loop crafting continues to be learned. Six sets of 23-ft ribbon, adhesive backing, have arrived.
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:arrow: Others are invited to this discussion thread to advance 5-ft-or-less packed HG projects or ideas for such. :!: :?: :idea:
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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:33 am

JoeF wrote: :arrow: Others are invited to this discussion thread to advance 5-ft-or-less packed HG projects or ideas for such. :!: :?: :idea:


I continue to advance the donation of my Wills Wing Alpha ... and a hacksaw.

Bob Kuczewski wrote:Via text messaging to Joe on June 27th, 2021:

Bob wrote:Let's convert the Alpha to a 5' busable glider.

Bob wrote:We can start by disassembling it and figuring out what tubes to cut.

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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby JoeF » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:21 pm

Your continued great offer about the Alpha to the Movement is robustly noticed! Thanks, Bob! :salute:
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Not all Movement participants will be going after the same parameters.
Here are some global parameters:
:arrow: Empty weight
:arrow: Assembly tools
:arrow: Assembly ease
:arrow: Materials
:arrow: Parts: COTS or custom machines?
:arrow: Launching airspeed
:arrow: Control system
:arrow: Pack volume
:arrow: Pack appearance
:arrow: Contraption quotient
:arrow: Expected life
:arrow: Public perception
:arrow: Ease of busing, hiking, carrying
:arrow: City-bus appearance, threat quotient
:arrow: Assembly and pack ease
:arrow: Carry-back ease
:arrow: Fun factors
:arrow: Joy factors
:arrow: Mass-production quotient
:arrow: Hiking ease
:arrow: Flight speed
:arrow: Novelty
:arrow: Inspectable quotient
:arrow: Sink rate
:arrow: Glide ratio
:arrow: Costs
:arrow: What technologies are used in the making?
:arrow: Tooling?
:arrow: Ease of experimentation on base platform?
:arrow: Making labor
:arrow: Safety
:arrow: Fitness for intended use
:arrow: Failure modes
:arrow: G load?
:arrow: Useful life? How long will it last?
:arrow: Maintenance attention
:arrow: Will plans be made available or not?
:arrow: Are duplicates expected?
:arrow: Carbon footprint
:arrow: Recyclability
:arrow: Part salvageability for next wing version?
:arrow: :?: :idea:
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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby JoeF » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:33 pm

Sept. 20, 2021, a note on the Wing5A project:
Consider: (this is a flash ideation, barely filtered)
A second case over the main spar case:
* could hold inner CE in place
* could receive CEs tied at any station for experiments
* could receive the wear of the tension strappings
* could be additive for protection from explosion of the inner spar case
* could be of various colors, a billboard for drawings, a place for variable advertising
* could be at 45 degrees to the inner main spar case
* could keep the main spar case clean
* could be washed
* could change for experiments about itself
* could hold the root of the upper sail and lower sail while leaving the inner main spar case dedicated to CEs and wing-tip rib-bowsprit
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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby JoeF » Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:01 pm

Wing5 note on
making bladders DIY with 2-mil TPU, matte, ester, using an economy hinged-arm impulse bag sealer:
it can be done. Detail steps will be posted in this topic thread at a later date.
Bladders might be for main spar-case, keel case, strut cases, rib-strut cases, or rib cases.
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