US Hawks Hang Gliding Association

From my post on Facebook:

Black's Beach Recreational Scandal

Stop Commercialization and Privatization of our San Diego Parks...

Please sign and share Petition, Save America's freedom to fly

Change Org: https://www.change.org/p/to-city-counci ... al-scandal

Also active on MoveOn org with over 100 signatures amd rising, part clipboard and electronical. Please do not sign both: https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/black ... al-scandal

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Thanks for your efforts Ernie. Here are some pictures from our efforts today with "Little Hawk":

Please explain Bob. What's happening here in these new photos of little hawk and these people shown with your glider? Where is this location?

Frank, currently experiencing the nightmare of getting a new water heater delivered at Canebrake.

Frank Colver wrote:Please explain Bob. What's happening here in these new photos of little hawk and these people shown with your glider? Where is this location?

Sorry Frank. Eagle and I spent a long day at a local beach in La Jolla promoting his petitions for recreational flight waivers at Torrey (see petitions above). I was too tired to give a good explanation, and I didn't want to say anything that wasn't on target. I think Eagle's goals are similar to what you, Joe, and I were able to accomplish at Dockweiler, but maybe he can explain it better.

Frank Colver wrote:Frank, currently experiencing the nightmare of getting a new water heater delivered at Canebrake.

Good luck with your water heater!

Frank Colver wrote:Please explain Bob. What's happening here in these new photos of little hawk and these people shown with your glider? Where is this location?

Hello Frank, maybe this could help clear up the question, subject to change, open for thoughts

1st. Point.
I have to buy United States Hang Gliding and Paragliding Association Insurance (not required by law.)

2nd Point
I have to buy a Leaseholder club membership pass to use a free park in San Diego. (illegal collection)

Both points
Both are by force and duress. by no contest are illegal collection of funds
Both want exclusive business rights to use public land.
Both commercialization and privatization of our parks is illegal and unacceptable.
Checkmate,... right there I could say no way
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A Possible Solution, 1st point
Easy fix, Similar to the Dockweiler waiver.
Recreational flying was free at Torrey for many years with USHPA operation no problem

The California Statutes Law already protects landowner liabilities. A waiver already is mentioned and not needed.
A recreational waiver would keep pilot rating and skills at a recreational City or USHPA card bank .
Securing recreational freeflight. At a reasonable one time fee, (Like a diving card /certificate/ waiver)

The waiver, Via City or other does not include exclusive business rights to a public park
It would allow other clubs within the flying community to operate under the same set of standards and rules.
Issuing a recreational fight card/certificate for use at any of our public parks. I believe is our American rights

The waiver allows tandem/instruction of both sports to operate in harmony at the same time within any given site.
Paying for their own insurance and oversight needed for public conflict, as they are fighting over money, power and control.
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Possible Solution 2nd Point
Gliderport can have a club, even more than one, like every other park with clubs in San Diego, offering something like glider storage, benefits such as discounts, package sales.
Tandem instruction may operate like every other Club in San Diego, without obstructing recreational public access and safety.

Closing Words
The Gliderport, like every other Club in San Diego, can not sell me access to a free public park, the sky, cliff, beach or ocean.
Why would anyone one give up their rights and sign unfair waivers to a third party to use a free park

P.S. There are no reasons I would join a known, collapsing, business scandal.

Well thanks Ernie but you read too much into my question. I'm fully aware of those points you made and I've always agreed, but i just wanted to know where this was and who were the people? Did you & Bob know them or were they passersby? Looks like a lot of enthusiasm there among the participants.

Frank

Frank Colver wrote: I'm fully aware of those points you made and I've always agree, Looks like a lot of enthusiasm there among the participants.
Frank

Glad you agree, I thought you would. I Overkilled the response to make it clear... I know it's throwing a wave of fear that our sport wont survive without exploiting each other...
Yes the surf beach community, great people that dream of a flight Some I knew, others just passing by a good mix.
That's "Wind N Sea" beach, a well known surf park where I pretty much grew up surfing. Where My buddies would put up and listen to story tails of our La Jolla Skies for years to come.

It's the NWO ~The USHPay them or else

From what I've heard, the petition has continued to grow.

Good job Eagle!!

Supporting with $30 to extend message to 750 views...
I wonder of those coming views: will any become interested followers ...?
Thanks, Eagle,
Joe

The Petition Has hundreds of signatures both electronically and by clipboard.
The numbers could grow at any point. as community signatures come easy for our freedom.

The petition exposes the problem, fills the room with the public's voice. opens the door to discussion and most of all provide's a proven solution that ends the dispute. As a result, without disclosing too much, speaking as Ernie Casco, La Jolla Town Council will be providing a fair letter concerning Gliderport issues to forward to the Mayor and City Council.

As It goes, the Petition is still in progress being shown as a package to inform other districts and community leaders, gaining further endorsements. This all makes a difference where it counts at the City Council where changes are made.

You could pitch in any way you want, with added signatures, letters of support, or show up at the meeting.
Commercialization and Privatization of our park by our own leaders is unacceptable and a disgrace to the sport of freeflight