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USHPA Finally Follows US Hawks Rating Retention Policy

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:54 am

USHPA Finally Catches Up to the US Hawks Rating Retention Policy

When we formed the U.S. Hawks, we established a rating system that followed the FAA tradition of being good for life.

But USHPA had a rating system that was based on regular payments to USHPA. Under the U$HPA model, a pilot's ratings would disappear if they didn't pay up for three years in a row.

USHPA's rating expiration practice was abusive, and it was clearly intended to force pilots to renew at least every 3 years ... whether they needed any of USHPA's services or not.

I suspect that USHPA's abusive ratings expiration practice eventually backfired on them. Under USHPA's abusive policy, pilots out of USHPA for more than 3 years had little incentive to return since their ratings were already gone.

The current USHPA Board seems to have realized the stupidity of their policy and reversed it. The following email quote was sent to me by one of our U.S. Hawks members:

USHPA wrote:Ratings no longer deactivated after 3 years of expired membership!

USHPA ratings and special skills remain active with your membership. Returning members will have ratings reinstated upon renewal.


Whenever you chose to renew your membership those ratings will be reinstated as well.
This only applies to ratings and special skills.
Certifications and appointments are not included and expire on their designated three-year cycle.


The reversal of this policy by USHPA is good for all pilots, and it's another example of the U.S. Hawks leading the way. Thanks to all U.S. Hawks Board Members whose vision has been so clear for so long!

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Re: USHPA Finally Follows US Hawks Rating Retention Policy

Postby JoeF » Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:52 am

Otto ratings of Self-Soar Association have remained in place since before USHGA and USH$A. Good to see the progress. Hats off to US Hawks' leadership :salute:
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Re: USHPA Finally Follows US Hawks Rating Retention Policy

Postby DaveSchy » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:31 am

I saw this in an email from the formerly great and currently desperate, suicidal and withering national paragliding club.
You still have to pay them to keep your rating and skills, so, a big FEH from me, after I got done laughing in disgust.
The language used in that email smelled vaguely like it was written in a culture of a Mostly Guiltridden Fallacy.

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Re: USHPA Finally Follows US Hawks Rating Retention Policy

Postby JoeF » Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:42 pm

Studied up to appreciate the meanings of "FEH" ....
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Next step is still needed by the national "USPGA" .... maybe they will one day consider respecting continuation of ratings without having to renew $ connection. USHawks remains one up on the UShP$A even at the new deal.
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Re: USHPA Finally Follows US Hawks Rating Retention Policy

Postby Chris McKeon » Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:55 am

So being that I have simply not Flown in 14 tears this March 38th. I am going to have to Demonstrate to John, and More importantly to Myself that I am still capable of Flying My Predator in a satisfactory Manner, which will be adequate so that John will re issue Me My Hang Four rating. What I find a little Bit Funny is that I think about My no longer having USHPA Hang Four anymore. Because that I have Simply not renewed it. Not because I Pounded Myself into the Ground. Well, when I did so severally into the ground. I DID "fail to DIE.". The awful Terrible Very real possibility was that because due to Injuries that occurred on That Sunday in March of Two Thousand Ten. What Pilot X was told was My Proggnosis at John Muir Hospital only a couple of Hours after I was admitted, and Treatment had begun on My Near Dead Body. I am so happy that the initial PRoggnosis for Me was in Error. For If I had indeed Died as "Pilot X had Been told. Yes, if I had indeed Died. I would not of been able to do what I plan on doing this Spring. That is to regain My Hang Four ratting,
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Re: USHPA Finally Follows US Hawks Rating Retention Policy

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:08 am

DaveSchy wrote:I saw this in an email from the formerly great and currently desperate, suicidal and withering national paragliding club.


Your choice of words is perfect!

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DaveSchy wrote:You still have to pay them to keep your rating and skills, so, a big FEH from me, after I got done laughing in disgust.
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Hats off to Joe Faust.
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Joe looked up "FEH", and I had to look up "pate". Thanks for your educational post Dave!!

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Re: USHPA Finally Follows US Hawks Rating Retention Policy

Postby dhmartens » Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:00 pm

I am sorry but the ushawks have to disagree with this policy.
My father was a Lt. Colonel with the US Army reserve and he had to keep his chops up. I lived in Germany in 1973 and then Reno Nevada at a submarine base?
Ushpa will need to address bringing back sidelined pilots and it shouldn't be hard.
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Re: USHPA Finally Follows US Hawks Rating Retention Policy

Postby Chris McKeon » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:34 am

So, talk about how Both Schools have low Death have low Death rates. Death rates? I am telling You if these Schools are Having Fledglings Trott of into the Air at the Beach. With an instructor is hanging onto a side Wire. So, if there has been a Single Death at the Otto Lilledahl Fly-In. That is One Death too Many. I want to say My take regarding Dying while Flying a Hang Glider. In My case after My experience where I proceeded to While using My Body to Bore a Hole into the Ground which will be Fourteen Years ago this Thursday. I had Doctors at My near Lifeless Body was taken to. My Friend-Pilot; Pilot-X was told; "You should contact His Family, for they need to put His things in order, for He is not expected to Make It". Later after I had been Transferred to a Kaiser Hospital. My Condition had improved by the fact that I was still Alive. One all Knowing, all Seeing Sophomoric Doctor said: "He will never be much better than a Potato. And He will never walk again. My Father after I was able to talk. Dad was so Mad! Dad said to Me: "Chris when You are up and about feeling Good. You need to Find that Doctor Who said what He said about You not being able to Walk, and that You would be a Potato. You need to beat His a**!

Anyways as that Grateful Dead song says: What a long, strange trip it's been. I mean heck I survived. Those Doctors did the best that They could do to keep Me alive.

This really trips Me out: Heck i was taken to the Hospital to have the doctors help Me recover. Well weather I was lying unconscious in a Coma for Three Months. Nor after I regained coccineous when Doctors could converse with Me. Not Once was the subject of My returning to Free-Flight discussed. I mean the Reason that I was in the Hospital was never talked about. Well, I never heard One word. Go Figure. But all in all, I am happy. Heck e know Pilots who Fly with One Leg such as Micky. But I have never seen a Dead Pilot Fly.





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Re: USHPA Finally Follows US Hawks Rating Retention Policy

Postby Craig Muhonen » Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:52 am

:salute: :salute: :salute:


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A bit off-topic but.....
We didn't need to be born or die or fly, "it is what it is".
Talk about giving up hope, or not giving up hope as you did Chris.
Are we needy or are we needed?


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Re: USHPA Finally Follows US Hawks Rating Retention Policy

Postby dhmartens » Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:23 pm

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