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to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:05 pm

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I'm HG

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I'm PG

Different strokes for different folks, but this is not golf. Please post articles that show The contrasts between HG & PG. Devoid of personal opinion for now. The contrasts are there in black and white. Let's see what we can learn from Sgt. Friday, ...The Facts Man,.. ..Just the Facts. We should present "advertising" about HG & PG to show "Contrast". (it is very subtle, so dig deep) After awhile we should write a small story about how "we" perceive these contrasts without bias. Keep in mind, as you think about this topic, that the marketing used for "training" is totally different than for product.
If this topic "gains favor", and can go to other forums, I think it will only add to the ability of future flyers and others, to make a better informed choice for the whole family.
Another "contrast" is the "maintenance and longevity" of a Hang Glider and a Paraglider.
After awhile I think we should "dive" into the "contrasts" between foreign "aircraft" companies and American Aircraft Companies, and their respective "liabilites", (and profit margin) and their affect and approach to marketing, and training. The "first chapter in this topic is just a data building effort, for now, but if "no data", no "banter".

We'll See

http://www.johnheiney.com/for_sale/gliders_for_sale.htm
OC pill not included

https://www.peaktopeakparagliding.com/p ... glider-gin
OC pill included with signed waiver.

These posts in no way are "to market or sell anything" and stand alone as "WORDS", for your Perrrousal.
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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:50 am

https://www.ushpa.org/page/history-of-paragliding.aspx
Conveniently left out of this history (along with much else) is Rick Masters 6 volume of "history" and "real data" about "paragliding".



http://all-aero.com/index.php/63-hang-g ... ang-glider

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aD4sB4VIsXs

https://www.ushpa.org/page/history-of-hang-gliding.aspx
Conveniently left out of their "false narrative"....
The NAMES. (In no certain order and help this new guy out with a more complete list)...... .DAVID CRONK, DICK EIPER, ROBERT LOVEJOY, JACK LAMBIE, JACK SCHROEDER, BURK, WILLS, FRANK COLVER, JOHN HEINEY, BILL BENNETT, MOYES, JEFF CAMPBELL, JOE FAUST, and on, and on, and on, and on
And on............
The pictures of the Hang Glider itself are conveniently left out of their "history narrative". The evolution of these "wings" in pictures, is truly an amazing progression of "a pilot engineers mind", that u$hpa will never show.

Maby the "H" in u$Hpa stands for "HISTORY", and Hang Gliding, and should, with respect, "fly away" from u$hpa, and let it be its own self.
u$pa .
u$pha's own words.... "Leaving Hang Gliding for another generation".
Damn right, they are learning who this "other generation" of "PILOTS" are, and always have been.

Let's use a US HAWKS "magnifying glass" to contrast the "H" and the "P" in u$hpa. It's in black and white, and may end up being a "class action law claim" about "defamation of character".

I have broken my own rule about not posting "bias".....I'll try to do better.
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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:14 am

From Craig's two USHPA links:

The bottom of the Hang Gliding history page shows a picture of a paraglider along with the link to the paragliding history page:

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The bottom of the Paragliding history page shows only a link to the hang gliding history page (no picture). USHPA couldn't find a historic hang glider picture to put beside the link?

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Also note that the paragliding history page has a link to "find a school or instructor". Why isn't there a similar link anywhere on the hang gliding history page?
 
 
Summary: There's a picture of a paraglider on the hang gliding history page, but no picture of a hang glider on the paragliding history page. There's a link to take lessons on the paragliding page, but no link to take lessons on the hang gliding page.

Rick Masters on March 21st, 2015 wrote:People talk about the sport of hang gliding dying. It's not dying. It's being murdered. By the U$hPA.


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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:54 pm

Rick Masters on March 21st, 2015 wrote:
People talk about the sport of hang gliding dying. It's not dying. It's being murdered. By the U$hPA.
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Gamblers gamble. But don't drink the "snake oil" being sold on the street corner. " OC is what ther selln"

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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:22 pm

"Paragliding accidents are commonly caused by:
Parachutes failing to deploy
Rider error
Collisions
Rough landings
Bad weather
Lack of training, education or supervision
Drop point is too low
Too little wind
Damaged or worn equipment
Personal Injury Attorneys for paragliding and insurance".

===========##########====#$==#$=$#$=$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
" in no particular order", and guess which are #1..& 2?.....THey ARE NOT ON THE LIST

Perrrusing , not selling anything.

"Be a Dart , not a sponge"
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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:40 pm

https://www.peaktopeakparagliding.com
And don't take offence......it's a parody of my own making.

"U$HPA CERTIFIED.....CERTIFIED......CERTIFIED.....online paragliding company, ................…..................................because they don't want you to "know the particulars





Sounds like a used car salesman I once didn't know.

Somebody put up a "contrast" just for fun
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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:19 pm

"Looking for consciousness in the brain, is like looking for the band in the radio"
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"Tune the radio to the heart"
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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:36 am

https://www.ushpa.org/page/find-an-instructor


http://www.skynomad.com/tandem_flying.htm

Tandumb paragliding, feel the magic of "flying like a bird"
https://www.ushpa.org/page/incident-report.aspx

https://www.ushpa.org/page/instructor-revocations.aspx

https://freeboernairsports.com/collecti ... s-for-sale

http://www.skynomad.com/articles/paragl ... ction.html
Check out strength of paragliding materals.
After 500 hours of flight, (that's about 10 new parasails in a lifetime $30,000.), the para glider fabric , must be scrapped. AND make sure you remove the insects

Anybody have any hang glider materials, and strength comparasons?
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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:20 am



From Craig's link:

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Re: to PERRVIEW the CONTRASTS

Postby Craig Muhonen » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:45 am

PARA-
a combining form extracted from parachute, forming compounds denoting persons or things utilizing parachutes or landed by parachute: paradrop; paradoctor; paraglider; paratrooper.


para [par´ah] (L.)
a woman who has produced one or more viable offspring. Used with numerals to designate the number of pregnancies that have resulted in the birth of viable offspring, as para 0 (none—nullipara), para I (one—unipara), para II (two—bipara) ( 2 offsprings?......now that's a thought about tandumb paragliding para III (three—tripara), para IV (four—quadripara). The number is not indicative of the number of offspring produced in the event of a multiple birth.

Interesting contrasts.

When I see tandem riders at Torrey now, I will forever after call them ,,,@BIPARAs

Extracted from parachute..... And pulse checked..... And compression applied....... And Coroner called.

Two gliders?... .Two pilots... Paradrop.... oh don't say drop..... what does tandumb mean anymore?

It looks like they are asleep in their PERRRaGLIDER
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