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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:24 pm
by Craig Muhonen
Contrast the "health" benefits of paragliding........ (not wishing this on anybody) ......up until the "canopy" collapses .
Also contrast the fairly aggressive marketing . ... g_outdoors

Tuesday, 13 June 2017. Para pax Paragliding ; Enabling people to be fearless.

Do you cherish a dream of soaring like a bird in the sky? If yes then paragliding is the best option for you that can fulfill your dream. This will enable you to explore the mysterious sky like a hawk. Now you may raise a question, what is paragliding? Actually, this is an outdoor sports activity that has gained global recognition within a very short time. Unlike the other thrilling sports activities this is safer and easier.
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :srofl: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

It's an "Extreme" sport.....safer and easier?????

"Like a Hawk?" I doubt you qualify .
And " Global Reconition" means that you can buy a paraglider that is only made in China or Vietnam, and has to be "scrapped" after 2 or 3 years.

I doubt that the Smithsonian will "hang" one, but we'll see.

Now contrast the "health benefits" of being a ®HangGlider Pilot.
And the "common sense" marketing . ... beginners/
add in the athletic abilities gained from flying and transporting your ®HangGlider and the dedication learned from extensive training.
Now a parody contrast; "Canape`" under a "canopy", .... sunshade, awning, baldachin.

Canape` - From the French word for sofa, drawing on the analogy that the "garnish" sits atop the bread, as people sit on a couch .

"Garnish" on stale bread, under a sunshade..... Now there's a creative advertising campaign.

I wonder if tandem paragliders feel like "garnish".ha.



PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:51 pm
by Craig Muhonen
This contrast is one within us all.

A contrast with one foot in chaos and the other in order, knowing we should not "linger" in "one", too long.

Prayers for the Peterson Family.


PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:03 pm
by Craig Muhonen
This from 2010.
I have searched for a contrast to perrview, but this unique forum sorta stands on its own. This "foundation" remains strong, even with the small Hang Gliding community of US HAWKS being some what ostracized (for absolutely no reason ) and other pilots finding it easier to pay into a system.
After reading through the "history" of US HAWKS (from its inception in 2010 till now) (it's for all to see in black and white) I have seen a progression of "non hang gliding" issues cause a small "riff" . Personality being What it is, and passion being strong, it's bound to happen. It's almost a David and Goliath sorta thing, with the Goliath being....... (any guesses). With the amount of pressure that has been put on, I can absolutely see why (add names here..........................) fight back. Mistakes are made and personalities "rub", but , pilots being What they are, the "baptism of atmosphere" is at their core.
In my mind, US HAWKS should be granted Journalist status , with all its rights .
Thank You Bob for this foundation.

U.S. Hawks wrote:What is the US Hawks?
The US Hawks is a national hang gliding organization designed to give all hang glider pilots a platform for sharing information and a focal point for pooling their efforts to further their own flying and the sport of hang gliding.

What does it cost to join the US Hawks?
Currently, membership is free. The US Hawks will follow the model of the Torrey Hawks by providing a voice for all hang glider pilots. The Torrey Hawks did this on the local level, and the US Hawks will attempt to do that on the national level. There may be a time when we need actual money, and we'll address that issue then.

Why do we need another organization?
The need for choice on the national level has been clear for some time. The HGAA, for example, was originally formed to be more of a grass roots organization than USHPA. However, it was quickly overtaken by those who again concentrated power and shunned opposing viewpoints. So the US Hawks was formed to provide yet another alternative.

Won't the US Hawks further fragment our resources?
Hang glider pilots typically pool their resources to reduce the costs of insurance and to lobby for protection of flying sites. There's no reason that the US Hawks couldn't team with either USHPA or the HGAA on both of those issues. In fact, having multiple organizations might increase the total number of people participating, and therefore increase both the insurance pool and the lobbying efforts.

What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
You will ... hopefully. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Everyone has to do their part once in a while. If you see something that's not being done correctly, then it's your duty to speak out. One big difference between the US Hawks and other organizations is that the US Hawks really does honor the free speech of its members.

Will the US Hawks offer insurance?
Not at this time. The HGAA is currently working to see if they can get independent insurance. The outcome of their effort will tell us a lot about the "lay of the land" with regard to insurance. One option that I've suggested before is requesting to be included on USHPA's (or even the HGAA's) insurance with a small markup. That means we would have to follow their rating standards which are not unreasonable at this time.

Will the US Hawks try to replace USHPA or the HGAA?
No. I started the HGAA because I wanted pilots to have choices. Eliminating USHPA (or the HGAA) would reduce our choices and that's never been my goal. Pilots who like USHPA should have USHPA. Pilots who like the HGAA should have the HGAA. And pilots who like the US Hawks should have the US Hawks. As I said when founding the HGAA, more choices gives us a better chance of each pilot finding an organization that they like. Hopefully those organizations (USHPA, HGAA, US Hawks) will all work together to make our sport better. They each appeal to different kinds of pilots and that's likely to give us more total pilots participating in our national organizations. Win. Win. Win. I hope the US Hawks' relationships with USHPA and the HGAA will be positive.

How will the US Hawks try to be different from USHPA or the HGAA?
The US Hawks will try to be more of a grass roots organization - more like the start of hang gliding. There's nothing wrong with the strong central control exhibited by other organizations, but the US Hawks will appeal to pilots who want more local control and greater personal participation in decision making. We believe that good decisions sometimes require a significant effort to dig into the facts. Sometimes arguments are heated, and that's not something to be feared or rejected. That's the process - painful or not - that leads to better decisions.

Is there a Board of Directors for the US Hawks?
Not yet. The HGAA's early problems arose because different people wanted to take the organization in different directions. That created power stuggles which cost the HGAA some of its early leadership. For now, I'm going to take the US Hawks in the direction that I believe is right. If people want to go along, then they're welcome. If not, there are at least two other alternatives. :)

Can local chapters join the US Hawks?
Certainly. We currently provide a public forum for each of our chapters to keep them better integrated with the national organization. We may be the first national hang gliding association to do that (watch for others to follow).

Do all local chapters have to have 'Hawks' in their name?
No, but you might think so given our first 3 local chapters (Torrey Hawks, Tooele Hawks, and Lakeview Hawks)! Any club is welcome to apply for membership. All we really want to see is that the club is sincere in being a member of the US Hawks and that they have a desire to promote and protect the sport of hang gliding in their local area.

Do I have to be a member of the US Hawks to use the forum?
No, but your membership in the US Hawks would show a more sincere interest in our organization and an appreciation of our efforts. Eventually we may provide additional services for actual members or place limitations on non-members.

Can I donate to the US Hawks?
No. Our model is based on freedom of speech and freedom of representation. But thanks for asking!! If the US Hawks begins to offer expensive services (such as insurance) then we may have to charge for those services.

If I can't donate, then what can I do to help?
Just try to visit the forum regularly and post as often as you can. It also helps if you spread the word about the US Hawks and try to bring in new members.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:56 am
by Craig Muhonen hard to watch.
Contrast these three videos :

Constantly changing... .every "string wing" is different

Which will lead to a severe case of the O C's and "Brown Adrenalin" in your laundry.

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :wave: :wave: :thumbup: :thumbup:

With this:

The L/D and CG and AOA theory
Which , most likely , will lead you to "SAFE PILOT STATUS" for the rest of your life.

In contrast to the PG video........ "" Stupid Simple"

"Keep it simple". HG has 1 attachment at CG.

PG has multiple "string" attachments &
NO constant CG. ........Thank You Dockweiler Beach Crew Thank You "SAFE Pilots".


PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:06 pm
by Craig Muhonen

I started to give my opinion to this story that was sent to me by a fellow old time surfer, words...... ..this is what They do.
=============================================== ... rts-rights

The ingenuity and powers of "surfer minds" ....ha...

Chocking on Public Extortion

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:43 pm
by eagle
PUBLIC Extortion by City Council Contract ...
~ It's Extortion By Our own Leaders

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You seem to have the answers to everything as our freedom has been stolen
and the crime continues, as We are threaten with ongoing Violence and personal Loss

? Who Craig are you working for ?

I would go as far as calling you an a** hole for defending whats going on.
You have interjected your Personal views under who's authority and disrupted the truth.
While the carriers of many and My Life and life's are under assault,.... F**CK YOU

** Note : This is the worst (still active ) Public Extortion case in recent history

Hey Bob $10 a day to recreate in a free Public Park is Extortion,
Witch you explained as being OK as most Parking Lots Charge,...


Re: Chocking on Public Extortion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:27 pm
by Bob Kuczewski
eagle wrote:So BOB, WHO ARE TRYING impressing and WHO YOU WORKING FOR AS WELL

Let's see ...

  • I started the Torrey Hawks in 2007 to represent Hang Gliding interests at the Gliderport.
  • I stood up for Dave Beardslee in 2007 and 2008 when he was banned for life.
  • I stood against Gabe Jebb and the SDHGPA corruption of the Soaring Council.
  • I ran against David Jebb in 2008 and defeated him as USHPA Regional Director.
  • As USHPA Director I introduced the "Accountability Amendment" so we'd know how Directors vote on the Board.
  • As USHPA Director I passed a balanced Soaring Council motion (which USHPA President Rich Hass simply refused to carry out).
  • I started both the HGAA and the U.S. Hawks in 2010 to give us an alternative to USHPA's monopoly.
  • I testified in the Hamby case where Shannon was injured in training at Torrey.
  • I spoke out for oversight at every single TPCPAB meeting that was ever held.
  • I helped Joe Faust and Frank Colver open Dockweiler Beach to non-USHPA members.
  • I've been arrested and jailed 3 times for asserting our rights to be at the Gliderport.
  • I was expelled from USHPA for testifying against the gross negligence at Torrey.
  • I speak out to the City Council about Gliderport corruption and abuses almost every week.
  • I've had at least 4 mayoral meetings asking for oversight at the Gliderport.
  • I've had nearly a dozen council member meetings asking for oversight at the Gliderport.
  • I've openly challenged Lightner, Bry, Faulconer, Sherman, Gloria, and Gomez for their lack of action at the Gliderport.
  • I have spent thousands of dollars in a law suit defending our free speech and defending us from assault and battery at the Gliderprt.
  • I operate the only major hang gliding web site that honors free speech ... like yours.
Who do you think I'm impressing?
Who do you think I'm working for?

As for Craig, he's been a blessing to this forum with his.historic perspectives and objective comments. Thanks Craig.

Ernie, I know that you've been bullied, assaulted, and battered by the thugs at the Torrey Pines Gliderport. I know that you've lost something you've loved through the corruption in the San Diego City government regarding the Gliderport. I know that terrible rotten things have been done to you. I know that USHPA and the SDHGPA have done nothing to protect your rights. But please keep you eye on the true source of that abuse. Thanks Ernie.


PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:43 pm
by eagle
So Bob.... I Commend  you for proving the Facts
You are one remarkable person, with the heart of a Ranger,..
Protecting the freedom's of free flight and the sport of Hang Gliding in America
Its an Honor to fight along side you. Although We have different Style's

~ We are Birds of a Feather

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As I told you before this site was created, this is what you're up against,...
Not one word of what I told you was false,...

SDPD Dirty cop club in Cohesion with Our Own City Crime family,.. and Unnamed Agency's
Own La Jolla's Gliderport, which is a Public Park. Supposedly owned by All the People.

Public Extortion By Corrupted City Council Contract,... We Lost America's Freedom

What to do Next. Is Not Up to Me,...  It's Up to Our Leaders


PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:11 pm
by Craig Muhonen ... eadership/

Aug. 22, 1934...... :thumbup: ....Dec. 17, friend.



PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:59 pm
by Craig Muhonen

During these times, we must keep our immune system intact and strong. Laughing out loud is good.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry, while watching this video. ...I chose to laugh, I guess. The marketing and training involved to do such a thing , and call it flying, is so evident here, but they are very crafty at their "uncrafted trade"

I contrast this crazy para-video above, (there are many , ..and they should be arrested) , and warning labels stamped on like cigarettes .

with videos like this one below. ( The smiles are addicting ). 1975

these are just two of many fun filled Hang Gliding videos, and they are easy to pick.