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| Author: | Rick Masters [ Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Helmets optional at Torrey? |
The delicate rescue operation took about an hour and a half. Crews had to work carefully to reach the man hanging from the cliff. The man was flown to Scripps Memorial Hospital complaining of hip and back pain, according to officials. Lifeguards said he was not wearing a helmet. http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/P ... 83331.html |
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| Author: | wingspan33 [ Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Helmets optional at Torrey? |
Aren't pilots flying at Torrey required to wear helmets? |
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| Author: | eagle [ Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Helmets optional at Torrey? |
I believe helmets are a site requirement , along with parachutes. A brain is good too  Not sure what USHPA's rule are , Does Anyone ? Along with,... One of the MANY controversies ... All pilots must have a radio rule. (to clear the AIR in case a a Heli rescue) There's a Bunch of other Controversial Rule's made up by the Leaseholder/flight director.... YOU COULD ONLY IMAGINE Note : Possible helmet failure on impact (loss of helmet) broken strap or a bad sizing |
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| Author: | wingspan33 [ Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Helmets optional at Torrey? |
I did think about the possibility that the pilot's helmet may have "flown" off his head on impact. In that case, it would seem the helmet had a longer duration flight than the collapsible canopy occupant.  Still, if a helmet doesn't stay on your head, it's essentially useless. |
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| Author: | Rick Masters [ Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Helmets optional at Torrey? |
 http://www.10news.com/news/paraglider-m ... gliderport |
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| Author: | Rick Masters [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Helmets optional at Torrey? |
BBC http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-29566207 |
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| Author: | SamKellner [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Helmets optional at Torrey? |
Is the mandate for all pilots to use radios at Torrey effective yet? If so, did this new requirement by the Torrey mgr benefit the rescue? This really shows the vast dual standards set for PG vs HG. As a HG pilot, H4 is a requirement and many other hurdles. As a visiting PG pilot you are allowed to try launching in no breeze?? Oh, Robin must have been on a smoke break out by the oxygen tank. 
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| Author: | eagle [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Helmets optional at Torrey? |
There are Several unreasonable rules Made by what most consider Unqualified Management. All controlled by the TPGP Leaseholder .... To include: .... flight director, instructors, Tandem pilots, & other's involved. Just a Few Examples: 1. Helmet rules ( I believe have always been in Place ) 2. Right of way rules 3. Radio rules 4. Parachute 5. Tandem ( rights & Discrimination ) 6. Basic Right of Way, Window Rules, ( the whistle ) 7. Storage cost 8. Instruction ( equal opportunity ) 9. Equal Voice & Representation !0. Lack of Peace & Harmony in OUR flight Park |
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| Author: | Bob Kuczewski [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Helmets optional at Torrey? |
SamKellner wrote: Is the mandate for all pilots to use radios at Torrey effective yet? I believe it is. It's incredibly sad that Ken Baier who is supposed to represent pilot's interests just goes along with whatever Robin wants. But what does Ken care? He doesn't even fly at Torrey Pines any more. In fact, I've asked him how long it's been since he's flown a hang glider and Torrey and his answer was many years (with an emphasis on "many"). How in the world can we be represented by a pilot who doesn't even fly at the site?  SamKellner wrote: If so, did this new requirement by the Torrey mgr benefit the rescue? This really shows the vast dual standards set for PG vs HG. As a HG pilot, H4 is a requirement and many other hurdles. As a visiting PG pilot you are allowed to try launching in no breeze?? Oh, Robin must have been on a smoke break out by the oxygen tank. Yes there are dual standards, they put "rules" like these in place so they have an easy reason to suspend people. It reminds me of the old 55mph speed limit. Everyone (at least in California) was regularly driving well above that, so that gave the police to pick and choose who they wanted to pull over. It's the same at Torrey. For example, they have a "window rule" that their own instructors and students violate every day (at least every flying day). It's so routinely violated, that it might as well not exist ... except that it's a good excuse to harass pilots they don't like. And once again, Ken Baier (our "USHPA" representative) does nothing. |
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| Author: | wingspan33 [ Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:53 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Helmets optional at Torrey? | ||
Did anyone else notice this in the news report? Rick, what would you say were the actual (US, or perhaps US and British) PG death stats for the years referred to in the report?
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