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| Author: | majiemae [ Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | If Los Angeles can do it... |
December brings us Bob and Margie telling the San Diego City Council that if the Los Angeles County can provide waivers for pilots to fly without USHPA, then what's holding up San Diego from doing the same? Well, I guess we'll have to ask Councilmember Bry...  Bob on December 4th, 2017: Bob and Margie on December 5th, 2017: |
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| Author: | wingspan33 [ Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If Los Angeles can do it... |
Council member Bry, . . . Council member Bry, . . . Calling Council member Bry! Well, . . . she seems to be AWOL.  Instead of presuming corruption (which I do think is the case) I'd love to ask Council member Bry directly, and in the public forum, "Please tell me why, here in San Diego, a waiver solution can't be put in place?" Good job Bob! Good job Margie! |
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| Author: | Bill Cummings [ Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If Los Angeles can do it... |
Think Big. No waiver but only hold harmless state statute for recreation. |
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| Author: | Rick Masters [ Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If Los Angeles can do it... |
Agree. While I recognize the achievement, accepting poorly written, redundant and unnecessary waivers into the future sets a poor precedent. |
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| Author: | Bob Kuczewski [ Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If Los Angeles can do it... |
The waiver is - more or less - a "hold harmless" agreement. The poor precedent was 30 years of USHPA's monopoly insurance. That's what we're chipping away at. A waiver is really a statement of personal accountability for one's actions. I am a big fan of personal accountability and personal responsibility. If you think about it, liability insurance is really a way of shirking responsibility and that has lots of bad consequences. I think the Dockweiler agreement is fine, and I applaud Los Angeles County for enacting it. 
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| Author: | Bob Kuczewski [ Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If Los Angeles can do it... |
wingspan33 wrote: Instead of presuming corruption (which I do think is the case) I'd love to ask Council member Bry directly, and in the public forum, "Please tell me why, here in San Diego, a waiver solution can't be put in place?" Good job Bob! Good job Margie! Thanks Scott!! That might be my next speech ... essentially 2 minutes of silence by Councilwoman Bry.  It would be the easiest one I've had to write. |
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| Author: | wingspan33 [ Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If Los Angeles can do it... |
Bob Kuczewski wrote: . . . That might be my next speech . . . It would be the easiest one I've had to write. Yea, it would be a Bry - zzzzz* * Pronounced - breeze. Along with the subtle snoring reference.  ** ** For those  that don't catch on so quick. 
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| Author: | Bob Kuczewski [ Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If Los Angeles can do it... |
wingspan33 wrote: Bob Kuczewski wrote: . . . That might be my next speech . . . It would be the easiest one I've had to write. Yea, it would be a Bry - zzzzz* By the way, I don't want to forget to thank Margie for an excellent speech!!!!!! It was very nicely done.  I also want to thank Margie for attending the meeting back in February so she could be a witness in December. Every set of eyes and every voice helps to bring the problem into the light. Thanks again!!! |
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| Author: | majiemae [ Wed May 30, 2018 12:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If Los Angeles can do it... |
And, the issue continues... |
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| Author: | majiemae [ Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If Los Angeles can do it... |
And more thanks to Los Angeles... So, San Diego, what's your problem...?  |
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