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 Post subject: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:45 pm 
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Yesterday, the La Jolla Town Council sent this letter to San Diego City Councilmember Joe LaCava:

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From: La Jolla Town Council
Date: Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 10:55 AM
Subject: Torrey Pines Gliderport
To: CouncilMember Joe LaCava

Dear Councilmember LaCava,

Attached please find a letter from the La Jolla Town Council (LJTC) regarding the Torrey Pines Gliderport (TPG). This issue, which has a long history in La Jolla, appears to be escalating. LJTC heard from residents who feel they are unable to use this park and the TPG. We invited the management of TPG to attend our meeting on several occasions; however, they declined. Upon review, one factor which may help clear up a significant number of issues is the TPG Advisory Board. LJTC voted during its April 2021 meeting that the reconvening of the TPG Advisory Board would provide solutions for the concerns of La Jolla residents. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Respectfully,

James P. Rudolph
President
La Jolla Town Council

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April 9, 2021
Councilmember Joe LaCava
City of San Diego, District 1
202 C Street, 10th Floor-San Diego, CA 92101

Dear Councilmember LaCava,

La Jolla Town Council (LJTC) reviewed several issues happening at the Torrey Pines Gliderport that were brought to our attention by residents of La Jolla. During our March 11, 2021, meeting, we reviewed a presentation on the Gliderport, and the issue was sent to committee for further review.

On April 8, 2021, the committee reported its findings to LJTC, which unanimously supported that the City of San Diego reconvene the Torrey Pines Advisory Board, as there are multiple issues occurring that are relevant but outside the purview of LJTC. We are requesting a review of issues regarding public safety and the right-of-way of tandem users in the park, as well as training. With respect to training, there are other areas in San Diego which presumably are more appropriate.

We also are requesting that the City of San Diego consider whether solo flyer pilots should have to pay annual membership fees or costs of insurance to fly at the Gliderport.

LJTC thanks you for your attention to this issue.

Respectfully,

James P. Rudolph
President
La Jolla Town Council



Good job La Jolla Town Council!!

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 Post subject: Re: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
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This is very good news :!: :!:

At least a "foot in the door".

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 Post subject: Re: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
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Last night San Diego City Councilmember Joe LaCava showed up at La Jolla Town Council to address the Gliderport issues. Here's the video:

https://youtu.be/3W3WLtvuLic



Joe LaCava starts off by apologizing for the terrible state of real estate management in the City of San Diego. That was a good start.

... work in progress ...


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Joe said he has all the input he needs. It’s obvious he’s satisfied with the status quo and that
there are legal avenues to pursue.


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Joe La Cava after saying that, “- - these are not the final thoughts, - “
Went on to say, “I don’t need any more input because I’ve been briefed and know what the problems are - -“ mentioned more than once about the Advisory Board being reconvened.
Can he produce the start date of any Advisory Board?
Did the City Auditor just this year start the revenue audit of the Glider Port?
We are 6 months into this year. How much longer will the wait be?
Joe wants the Glider Port to be safe, he said. Is Joe qualified to see to that or is he going to need more input. What will be his method of obtaining the expertise?
I hope Joe can elaborate on the undisputed reason that the Advisory Board was shut down.
It appears that the input Joe received was too brief.


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 Post subject: Re: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
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Thanks for your excellent comments Bill. As usual, you have done a great job finding the contradictions (doublespeak) coming from our politicians mouths.

When I wrote "... work in progress ..." above, I was planning to give an in-depth analysis of Joe LaCava's doublespeak, but a number of other distractions intervened (see the "SITE RECORD BROKEN!!!" topic :D ).

I also found several major problems with Joe LaCava's statements in this video:

https://youtu.be/3W3WLtvuLic



Joe LaCava said:
"It is also well outside the capacity of the the City of San Diego to operate it"

But later (6:25 in the video) Joe LaCava states:
"The City will not reconvene the Advisory Board"

If the Torrey Pines City Park (Gliderport) is well outside the City's capacity to operate, then that's the perfect reason to form an Advisory Board. In fact, that's the primary reason to form an Advisory Board. You only need advice from experts when you don't have sufficient expertise yourself. Joe already admits that the City doesn't have the expertise, but then he turns around and flat out states that "The City will not reconvene the Advisory Board". That is a clear contradiction.

Joe gives the reason as:
"The City will not reconvene the Advisory Board because an Advisory Board does not intervene in between a private vendor and a lease holder and the Real Estate Assets.

That's like saying that the City will not reconvene the Advisory Board because an Advisory Board does not guarantee world peace. Where does it say that Advisory Boards can only exist to "intervene in between a private vendor and a lease holder and the Real Estate Assets"? That's a stupid statement. An Advisory Board exists to A-D-V-I-S-E. Period.

Joe goes on to say:
"An Advisory Board advises Park and Rec. There's no park there to really speak of. That's kind of where we're at."

First of all, where does it say that an Advisory Board can only advise Park and Rec? Advisory Boards advise the entire City and not just Park and Rec. Second, what does he mean that "There's no park there to really speak of"??? It's a flight park. People go there to have fun flying. It's called the "Torrey Pines City Park"!!!

At 3:11 in the video Joe LaCava states:
"They shut down the Advisory Board because that's the job of an Advisory Board was to create the plan and then oversee the construction.

Where in the world did Joe LaCava get that "job" description of the Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board?

Joe states:
"Where the City got tripped up is the City got sued ..."

That's the wrong perspective because it focuses on the City getting sued while completely ignoring WHY the City got sued. The City got sued because the City was not providing proper oversight of its vendor. That's why the settlement agreement - from that lawsuit - required the City to Establish a Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board (see references below).

... work in progress...

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Bill's Oz Report exposition of San Diego City corruption

Update March 13, 2025:

I still haven't completed my review, but I have recently transcribed the full text of the video. It's difficult to get every word because some are difficult to hear. If you find any errors, please post them in this topic or send me an email message or a PM (Personal Message). Thanks.

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Joe LaCava: As it said on the agenda, I wanted to come out and do an update. You all sent a letter to me a couple of months ago and time passed so quickly but I wanted to circle back on some of the issues that you raised. Um, this is not intended to be a final thought. It's not intended to answer everything that has been complained about or that I hear on a regular basis. Um, some of the more vocal folks, but I did want to give you an update, um, on the Gliderport, um, as some of you are probably well aware that the City Real Estate Department has not had its finest hour over many years on a variety of issues and the good news that I can report is that a couple of months ago we may have hired a new Real Estate Director, and who is an individual that is outstanding. I am very excited about her, and she is going to turn the corner on Real Estate Assets. She has recently got herself up to speed. She is very open and transparent and quite candid when you talk with her which is very refreshing. And that's how we solve problems where there have been challenges in the past, and how we work together to solve them. And so some of the things that we have talked about is the Gliderport is certainly an unusual animal in the City's list of assets, in the sense that it is an historic venue, and provides a unique opportunity for those who enjoy glider all aspects of what a gliderport can offer. It is also well outside the capacity of the City of San Diego to operate it which is why they have looked to outside vendors as all of you I think know that many public lands within the City are in fact leased out to private vendors. Um, where the City kind of got I say tripped up, and that's my personal opinion is that the City got sued because if you look at the Gliderport, there's quite a bit of activity there, and it is on a coastal bluff, and issues of drainage and erosion have been highly problematic out there and the City did get sued. So you have to kind of clean up the act there. And um, back in 2012, as we are today, the City doesn't have the money to do that. What the City did do, for some of you with longer memories, is uh, organize an Advisory Board, um and created what the City calls a general development plan, essentially a master plan to do park improvements that would deal with drainage, make it friendlier to the public to be able to use, reduce erosion, actually maybe even pave that parking lot. Um which is quite the roller coaster if you've ever used that dirt parking lot. Um, and then once that got that, they had no money to actually implement that, so um, they shut down the Advisory Board because that's the job of an Advisory Board was to bring the plan, and then oversee the construction. But that wasn't going to go anywhere. And so what the City decided was that they were going to issue an RFP to find the new vendor and one of the conditions of the new vendor was to construct the park. [interruption by Ernie getting a visitor] Um, the um, as you can imagine, a park of that size, the scale there is a multi-million dollar operation. And when the first RFP went out nobody said they would be able to afford to build the park. So the City sat down, kind of scratched it's head a little bit, and went out with a new RFP with the same result. No surprise. Nobody could afford to build that park on the City's behalf. And so the City's been kind of frankly been stuck. Uh, they let the lease continue month to month wondering what to do. Now I've been on this for six months now. I talk with folks behind the uh, some of the more vocal folks, uh, we know, I know they're in this meeting. Um, before I got elected, and I met with them after I got elected. I got their email which I read. Um, I hear their testimony at almost every City Council meeting. And so what we're trying to do is figure out a new way to get past this requirement to build the park so that we can do an RFP and we can throw away the old lease and put together a new lease based on what we've learned over the years. And actually recoup revenue for the City. Um it's been widely reported the old lease doesn't require anything because way back when, I don't know how many years it's been now, the City just wanted somebody to operate that, to try to operate that. So that's kind of where we're at. We're trying to look at what our options are up there. Um, and as Mr. Kuczewski said, I agree, there is no need to build the park. But that's where the City's been stuck, and I'm getting it unstuck. And we have a new Director, and we are going to get there. Um, with the new Director and the new Mayor. Um, but as you know, as most of you that have worked with the City, as I have over the many many years, nothing happens very fast. But I have committed myself, it is one of the top things on my white board that I look at every morning to be able to navigate this and push the City to fix this. I want revenue out of that Gliderport. I want it to be safe. And eventually my wildest dream is to have actually improve the park so that we have the ADA access that we have protected erosion, that we control the drainage, that we fix the parking lot. Um, and um, but that's a long ways away. We have a lot of infrastructure problems to solve. So um, the City will not reconvene the Advisory Board because the Advisory Board does not intervene in between a private vendor, and a lease holder and Real Estate Assets. An Advisory Board advises Park and Rec. There's no park there to really speak of, so um, that's kind of where we're at. So, um, from what I can tell, um, at this time, I've made more progress on this than anybody, um anybody else, so um, I wanted to be respectful of the Town Council taking the time to look at that. And the trivia, the park is actually in the University community plan. It's not in the La Jolla Community plan. Is that relevant? I don't know, but when the Advisory Board was convened many years ago, no La Jollan was invited to sit on that although we did get Ken King and Mary Coakley on there. I remember those conversations back in the day. Um, but um, that's kind of where we sit, I'm not happy with it. I've been briefed on it. Um, I don't need any more input because I know where we're at, what the problems are. I will thrown in because I committed myself, as many of you heard, during the campaign um that I'm going to be rather blunt because I don't want to waste your time. If you think there has been corruption. If you think there is um something funny going on, there's a lot of mechanisms to use. We have a City auditor that has a hot line. We have Grand Juries. We have the District Attorney. Don't call the Councilmember. Don't call the police because that not within our perview. Those organizations are. Um, if you think there's criminal activity, don't go after our CRO, uh, that's not his job. File a complaint. Um, that's how you get the police involved. If you want a restraining order because you think you're being attacked or threatened, um we have a legal system that deals with restraining orders. Um the other thing that I will add is that our City Auditor is actually looking at City leases especially ones in terms of how we renew leases and how we hold over old leases which is clearly the case here. To say that we don't that um we have not done a very good job. We've let things languish. That's not good for the City. That's not good for taxpayers. So um, they're going to be looking at that. I don't have time frames. The City Auditor when they're going to do that audit. But if you watch the City Auditor, they do a pretty amazing job and independent audits of our City operations. So um, so that's, as I said, my intention was only to come by and give you an update. I'm happy to answer any questions, um that you might have. I think I'm making more progress on a number of issues in District one that the conversations have been poisoned somewhat and um, I'm picking them up. And I don't dump it on my Community Rep to convey those messages. I come out here. Um, we've got a long way to go, but we're working on it, and um, hope to get a resolution sooner rather than later. And I'll try to check in as we make meaningful milestones, so I'll stop there James, and happy to take any questions on this or anything else that you have an appetite for.

James: Thank you Councilmember LaCava, I'm sure we probably have time for one question, so now's your chance. There is Bob.

Bob: Hello. Can you hear me?

Joe: Yes.

Bob: Hello Joe, um, I have a couple of questions. First, um, as you know, I am personally not able to fly at the Gliderport because I testified in a Court case against the Gliderport concessionaire. Are you aware of that?

Joe: Yes. You've told me several times.

Bob: Have you looked into it to believe that it's true?

Joe: Um, I have not. Um, I assert that what you're representing um, is true at the moment.

Bob: OK. And you also know that I'm not able to use the Gliderport because I have spoken to the City Council about problems at the Gliderport.

Joe: Um, you have relayed that you have not been able to use the Gliderport.

Bob: I have also relayed that it's because I have spoken before the City Council. In other words, I spoke to the City Council showing problems at that Gliderport, and those speeches that I made to the City Council were used to expel me from an organization, a private organization that I must belong to in order to use our public land. Does that bother you?

Joe: Uh, no. Uh, it doesn't bother me because when we contract out with private vendors, which we do across our city, um for the exclusive use of our public land, um, that that's something that we do on a regular basis throughout the city. We do have private vendors controlling public land as through a lease agreement.

Bob: And, and you allow those public vendors to exclude people from using public land simply because they speak to the City Council or testify in Court?

Joe: We allow the vendors, um the um, we allow that. If you think your civil rights have been violated there are mechanisms to deal with that. Um, and I know you have chosen to focus your energies in reaching out to our office, and you're free to do that. We'll read your emails. We'll listen to your testimony at City Council, but it's not the most effective way to deal with that issue. But if that's how you want to proceed, that's your choice.

Bob: Are you recommending a law suit be filed against the City?

Joe: I think you should take the action that you deem appropriate, but I can tell you that contacting my office will not help resolve that conflict that you have with the vendor.

Bob:
OK, one more ...

BlueShirt: This is a personal adjudication of the Councilmember to answer these questions.

Many others chimed in and I was muted for the rest of the meeting.


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 Post subject: Re: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:28 am 
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At that important meeting on Zoom with LJTC and Councilman Joe LaCava,
I was just struck how the members of LJTC and Joe LaCava failed to see
how Bob's case is a tip of a public iceberg far from one individual's "personal matter"!
Wow! LJTC is missioned to care about LJ Community matters and they did not see
the importance of denying La Jolla recreation assets on the basis of community communications of care
is a COMMUNITY matter, not just a one-person "personal matter"! Bob had been representing
community values and he was shut out on a claim of "personal matter". And for Joe LaCava
to shove all care about such matter to other agents without a pause to see that shunting
a community member from flying for having spoken in council chambers is a matter core
to the conduct of a leaseholder when one sifts fully through the lease. Without LJTC volunteers and
Councilman Joe LaCava seeing the "community" matter of Bob's thrust, it lowers hope for effective decisions.
There has not been an ounce of just-personal matter in Bob's thrust, though the teasing matter in some personal matters
is there, it is there to point to community-wide loss of values and assets; every San Diegan ought to see that a structure that hammers one
could perhaps hammer all. San Diego, wake up!

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Simply do not lease away the ability for a recreational hang glider pilot to enter Federal airspace off the park's land. Lease only a concession for commercial relations! And certainly let the two VERY DISTINCT factions live side-by-side! Let park recreationist be aside commercial training and commercial tandem training, so long as the FAR 103 on tandem is not broken. And certainly do not force park recreationists to join private organizations! If the business wants its patrons to join this church or that league or some association of dog catchers, so be it, but be a City that does respect the freedom of citizens to associate by choice, not by force. The feds do not require any hang glider operator to join any private organization. State of California does not either. "Hey, San Diegan, for you to be a user of our parks, you must pay dues and join Dog-Catchers Anonymous!" The City may sink in the sea if it breaks the freedoms and rights of its citizens. The two sorts of hang gliding can live in parallel: for-profit activity and for-recreation individual activity; easy; just do that.
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I just sent this post to Council President Joe LaCava asking him to reflect over my remarks.

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Need for your good influence
Penny,
Thank you for any influencing you may radiate to have recreating hang glider pilots be fully separate from the for-profit tandem/instruction concessionaire. Both factions can live side-by-side.
Recreationist need only to launch and land into free federal airspace. FAA does not require licenses for hang glider pilots. The State of California releases property owners opening land for recreationists from liabilities. For a century gliders and hang gliders were not blocked as they are now by a bad month-month lease. Please look deeply into the mater. For decades many of us have suffered the loss of the park to a bad lease.

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Maybe she will influence changes for recreational hang gliding!

Note the date:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, March 12, 2021
City of San Diego Names New Director for Real
Estate Assets Department
PENNY MAUS SPENT 13 YEARS WITH PORT OF SAN DIEGO, BRINGS EXTENSIVE
EXPERIENCE IN HIGH-PROFILE REAL ESTATE PROJECTS
SAN DIEGO – Ushering the City of San Diego’s Real Estate Assets Department into a new era, today the City of
San Diego announced the hiring of Penny Maus as the new department director. Maus comes to the City with
more than 19 years of public and private real estate experience, most recently as the Real Estate Department
Manager for the Port of San Diego.
“Penny has proven expertise in seeking out and promoting new business development, handling a
diverse portfolio of assets and developing cost-saving measures that benefit San Diegans,” Mayor Todd
Gloria said. “She was a champion for equitable coastal access while at the Port of San Diego, which
aligns with our goals to create a better San Diego for all of us. Her public sector experience will help
move our Real Estate Assets Department in a positive direction.”
During her 13 years with the Port of San Diego, Maus worked on a number of large projects from inception
through completion including the development of permanent locations for the Port’s Bay Tour Operators, the
$200 million redevelopment of the Marriott Marquis and the $25 million redevelopment of the Portside Pier
dining complex. Maus’ extensive resume also includes time in the commercial real estate industry, at the local
corporate offices of Jack in the Box Inc. and Petco Animal Supplies, Inc.
As the new director, Maus will oversee the City’s real estate portfolio of more than 500 leased properties. In
addition to handling the City’s facility needs and acquiring new properties for sites such as fire stations, parks
and libraries, the department provides direction for the operations of the City’s Airports Division and the City
Concourse. It also manages the City’s role in the Joint Use Management Agreement for Petco Park.
"Penny will be a great addition to the City and brings experience and knowledge that is needed at this
critical time," said Jay Goldstone, Chief Operating Officer. "In addition to a wealth of experience in real
estate asset management, Penny has negotiated a number of complex projects; she understands the
public sector and process, is familiar with the City of San Diego and will help restore confidence in the
Real Estate Assets Department."
Early last year, Maus led the effort to develop and implement a telecommuting pilot program that assessed the
needs of her department’s employees and created cost-saving opportunities for the Port of San Diego. The
pilot program was declared a success and implemented for all Port employees.
Similarly, Maus looks to optimize the City’s real estate assets to meet current and future needs, and to assist
the City in striking a balance between providing adequate workspaces while optimizing cost savings and
protecting taxpayer dollars.
“I’m honored to have been selected to serve as the City of San Diego’s Director of Real Estate Assets,”
said Maus. “I look forward to analyzing the City’s existing portfolio, identifying ways to optimize and
diversify its assets and maximize the benefits it provides to the City and the public, while also providing
our tenants with world-class service. By doing this, my goal will be for the City’s real estate department
to serve as a model that government agencies in California and beyond will look to for excellence in real
estate.”
Maus recently received national attention when GlobeSt.com named her one of Real Estate Forum’s 2020
Women of Influence. She was also recognized by San Diego Business Journal as one of its 2019 Business
Women of the Year. She serves on the Board of Directors for Commercial Real Estate Women.
The City held an open recruitment to fill the Real Estate Assets Department director position. Maus was
selected out of a pool of nearly 30 candidates and her first official day will be Monday, March 22. (sic, 2021)
===========================end of news release===========
At her business site we find:
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At propertyworx LLC, we believe that transparency and collaboration are the keys to achieving success. We work closely with our clients to understand their goals, identify potential challenges and develop solutions that are tailored to their unique needs. Our approach is results-driven to help you optimize your real estate portfolio and maximize your return on investment.


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ChatGPT opines over Penny Maus:
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Penny Maus's appointment as the Director of San Diego's Real Estate Assets Department in 2021, combined with her background in championing equitable coastal access at the Port of San Diego, suggests she could be an advocate for public access to sites like the Torrey Pines Gliderport. Her stated goals of optimizing city real estate assets and serving public interests could align with independent hang glider pilots' hopes for open access.

However, the actual impact of her tenure would depend on several factors, including:

1. **City Policies and Priorities:** The City of San Diego’s overarching stance on managing public resources and balancing commercial interests against public access.

2. **Stakeholder Engagement:** Maus’s willingness and ability to engage with independent pilots and other stakeholders to understand and prioritize their needs.

3. **Existing Agreements and Constraints:** The terms of the current concession agreement at Torrey Pines and any legal or logistical challenges in modifying them to accommodate broader access.

While her experience in equitable coastal access is promising, her role likely involves navigating competing interests, including those of the current concessionaire. If independent hang glider pilots want to promote their cause, active advocacy, and collaboration with her office might be essential to achieve their goals.

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