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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport Lease 2022
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:58 pm 
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Well as I continue on with My Quest to once again engage in Free - Flight. My first Flight will be flying an enormous condor. Then i will Fly a T-Two. Then I will once again Fly My awesome Predator. who knows maybe I will head on down to Southern California. You know watching the Videos of Pilots flying Paragliders at Torrey pines has me thinking that maybe I should develop my nerves, and attain a large case of courage, so as to be equipped in order that i could Fly Paragliders. Because everyone knows that Paraglider Pilots are courageous Pilots. Except for the require attributes which all successful Para-Glider Pilots have, I doo not have the mandatory attributes that One must possess in order to Fly a Paraglider, They look like fun.


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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport Lease 2022
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:35 pm 
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We have switched our Artificial Intelligence personalities away from The Penguin and Darth Vader to The Teletubbies.
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We are going to demonstrate our ability and power to shut down ACA however we will do it on a day that will not cause ACA or the City of San Diego to lose any Revenue from Restaurants, Hotels, theme Parks etc. We will shut them down on a rain day.
Some of you will say they are naturally shut down on any rain day anyway. I would tell them you are dealing with the latest Quad-core processing technology of the Teletubby AI.

The Torrey Pines lease is only deficient in 2 areas:
1) SIV training requirement will save the city of SD from future lawsuits from training tourists on structurally deficient wings


2) Mandatory Silver Iodide cloudseeding as well as a whistle.




Overall the AI has given the City of San Diego high to excellent grades for their ability handle problems.


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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport Lease 2022
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:53 am 
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It's always recommended when in cloud suck, whited out, let go of all controls and pray.
Guaranteed!
If I were his passenger, that selfie stick would have wound up someplace else...

I hope the "pilot" took up knitting instead


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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport Lease 2022
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I was up on Mount Diablo once. There was a Paraglider Pilot who was on the Juniper ridge Launch. Well I spoke witk this extremly Brave, courageous Pilot. I asked him about asymmetric Collapses. Well He responded saying that having a asymmetric collapse while flying his Partaglider was not that big of a deal. He told Me that he had experienced two collapses in one flight.

So when i when I believe that I will have the nerves of steel, the raw courage that is Mandatory that one must have in order to Fly a Para Glider. Yes after my operation where some doctor completes a transplant operation where I will have a pair of enormous Testicles, I will be Physical equipped so as to be a Paraglider Pilot. I am not at all sure what I will do to get My Mind to be able to deal with the situation.

But those brave soles look as though they are enjoying their Flying.


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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport Lease 2022
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:48 pm 
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https://youtu.be/kNBF_nR9ajY


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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport Lease 2022
PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:43 pm 
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BobK you once again have got them.
These vehicles are blocking the ocean view of University of California employees who because of their contributions have been give offices with ocean views. Also expensive mansions are having their ocean views obscured and this is leading to reduced land and realestate values in San Diego, California, and United States. California air adventure should immedietly arrange these vehicles in a line from east to west and back from the coast to remedy the situation. Ushawks has access to the Sylmar stargate and we have altered the 2022 election so if you are a politician and are in power it is because of our influence. We will let the San Diego City Council know the power of the stargate and why it was given to the people of earth because if we destroy our selves they can take over without having directly caused our destruction. So please move the vehicles east as to not destroy our civilization.



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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport Lease 2022
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:46 pm 
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Thanks for that post Doug, I fell asleep at about 2am last night while watching the very end of that movie.    :)

At one hour, 10 minutes, and 39 seconds into the Movie (1:10:39):

Radio Announcer:

I know it's unbelievable, fantastic, but the rays appear to have killed every person throughout the world known to have been a confirmed enemy of human freedom. Yes, the entire world is now united in a spiritual unity unparalleled in its history. There are those who might say it can't last. But let us pray it does.


Professor Bechner:

Thank God.


Thanks for sharing this relatively obscure movie and its optimistic outlook. Keep watch for that Alien!!

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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport Lease 2022
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2025 12:25 pm 
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This was my speech from 2022:

Bob Kuczewski wrote:
https://youtu.be/kNBF_nR9ajY



So ACA has been paying the City of San Diego $3,825 a year for a property that could bring in over $100,000 per year ... in RV parking fees alone!!

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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport Lease 2022
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2025 12:34 pm 
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Bill Cummings wrote:
My opinion is that the military is training their soldiers to fly at Torrey.
I KNOW of it being done elsewhere.
It has involved bending the rules and laws. (Federal.)
It is so far the best explanation that covers the action and inaction of the government
and ACA.


I think you've nailed it Bill.

Thanks for all you've done for the sport of hang gliding in your lifetime of service.

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 Post subject: Re: Torrey Pines Gliderport Lease 2022
PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2026 2:18 pm 
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I was going to sell my Los Angeles home and root in San Diego in order to have open recreational access to the lift zone at Torrey Pines cliffs. But the raw constriction that has been permitted a ruthless concession forcing out open recreation discouraged me from the sell/move. Sad.



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Yeah… that reaction makes complete sense. If the whole point of uprooting your life was reliable, open access to a rare natural lift zone—and then you discover it’s effectively gated by a concessionaire—of course that kills the dream. That’s not a small inconvenience; that’s a foundational assumption collapsing.

What you’re responding to isn’t just “fees” or “rules,” it’s the loss of commons. Torrey Pines used to feel like one of those almost-mythic places where geology + wind + human skill met without a toll booth. When access becomes conditional on a private operator’s permission structure, the place changes character. Even if it’s technically legal, it stops feeling like recreation and starts feeling like managed consumption.

A few grounded observations, not to spin you, just to frame it cleanly:

  • Your instinct wasn’t naïve. Historically, Torrey was unusually open compared to most world-class sites. Many pilots anchored life decisions around that reality.
  • The concession model creates a chilling effect, even beyond actual enforcement. The uncertainty—“will I be allowed today?”—is itself discouraging.
  • Selling a home is irreversible leverage. Walking away because a public access assumption no longer holds is not overreaction; it’s prudence.
  • Your sadness reads as grief, not bitterness. Grief for a future that almost made sense.

If it helps re-center things: you didn’t lose something you had; you avoided losing something you already own (your LA base) in exchange for something that turned out to be fragile and conditional.

Two gentle reframes—take or leave them:

  • Delay, don’t abandon
    San Diego access politics ebb and flow. Concessions get renegotiated, challenged, or softened over time. Staying put keeps your optionality intact.
  • Decouple place from permission
    There are other lift-rich, under-managed coastal and inland sites—less famous, more fickle, but freer in spirit. They don’t advertise themselves as loudly as Torrey, but they exist.

Either way: your hesitation is rational, not defeatist.

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