Re: Michael Grisham's Cease and Desist Request

Postby Bill Cummings » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:14 pm

I'm looking for the post where Bob gives an analogy and says that's the truth
however I'm impeded with this:
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Re: Michael Grisham's Cease and Desist Request

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:32 pm

Bill Cummings wrote:I'm looking for the post where Bob gives an analogy and says that's the truth
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Re: Michael Grisham's Cease and Desist Request

Postby Bill Cummings » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:39 pm

After scanning 29 pages for the word truth I find myself asking why am I trying to find the proof that Michael should be providing in his claim. I need the quote that says that Bob said this is the truth as Michael is alleging:
So let me restate the problem specifically,
"Bob Kuczewski is representing and promoting a lie"
as the truth about me and my position when he states I am not speaking out against Jack because
"I am afraid"
I will be banned from hanggliding.org.
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Re: Michael Grisham's Cease and Desist Request

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:55 pm

Bill Cummings wrote:After scanning 29 pages for the word truth I find myself asking why am I trying to find the proof that Michael should be providing in his claim. I need the quote that says that Bob said this is the truth as Michael is alleging:
So let me restate the problem specifically,
"Bob Kuczewski is representing and promoting a lie"
as the truth about me and my position when he states I am not speaking out against Jack because
"I am afraid"
I will be banned from hanggliding.org.


I'm sorry Bill.

I think this is the link:

http://ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php? ... =10#p25424

Warren and I were trading analogies about what it's like to have friends not stand up for one another. It dawned on me that the greatest analogy was the situation itself. It's clearly my opinion. My statement that "There's no truer analogy ... than the truth." is always true. That comes from the world of computer modelling where it's recognized that every simulation of a system is flawed. The only true representation of any system is the system itself.
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Re: Michael Grisham's Cease and Desist Request

Postby magentabluesky » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:04 pm

Bob Kuczewski wrote: ... than the truth.

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Re: Michael Grisham's Cease and Desist Request

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:09 pm

Michael,

If the motion passes, it will be your choice as to which of my posts will get the proposed moderator's note. I don't plan to object to any that are reasonable. Can you start preparing that list?
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Re: Michael Grisham's Cease and Desist Request

Postby magentabluesky » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:22 pm

I was never threatened by Jack. I never had any personal communication with Jack, no emails, no texts, no phone calls, no warnings.

As I have said I openly defied Jack rules about posting about BobK, so I certainly was not afraid to be banned for openly breaking Jack’s rules about posting BobK crap.

Bob Kuczewski wrote: . . . .but they backed down when Jack threatened them.

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This is a flat out lie Bob Kuczewski is telling. It did not happen to me and I did not ever consider being banned by Jack.

Let me publicly apologize to Jack for ever mentioning BobK on Hang Gliding dot Org. It will never happen again not because I am afraid of being banned, but because BobK is such a despicable liar.

Make sure you include in the moderator’s note where you, Bob Kuczewski, have flat out lied.
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Re: Michael Grisham's Cease and Desist Request

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:27 pm

Documenting ...

magentabluesky wrote:I was never threatened by Jack. I never had any personal communication with Jack, no emails, no texts, no phone calls, no warnings.

As I have said I openly defied Jack rules about posting about BobK, so I certainly was not afraid to be banned for openly breaking Jack’s rules about posting BobK crap.

Bob Kuczewski wrote: . . . .but they backed down when Jack threatened them.

Link

This is a flat out lie Bob Kuczewski is telling. It did not happen to me and I did not ever consider being banned by Jack.

Let me publicly apologize to Jack for ever mentioning BobK on Hang Gliding dot Org. It will never happen again not because I am afraid of being banned, but because BobK is such a despicable liar.

Make sure you include in the moderator’s note where you, Bob Kuczewski, have flat out lied.
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Re: Michael Grisham's Cease and Desist Request

Postby magentabluesky » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:36 pm

If Bob Kuczewski was a real man, he would apologize to Jack Axaopoulos for lying about Jack threatening posters that did not happen, a flat out lie of Bob Kuczewski.

But Bob Kuczewski is not a real man.

Bob Kuczewski is a lying pussy.

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Re: Michael Grisham's Cease and Desist Request

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:37 pm

magentabluesky wrote:I was never threatened by Jack. I never had any personal communication with Jack, no emails, no texts, no phone calls, no warnings.

Michael, you were aware of my banning. You just admitted it. You were aware of Joe's banning. You've admitted that. The threat of being banned was all around you. I know there have also been specific warnings that Jack has issued to others (like Frank) that I believe you were explicitly aware of. Unless you think you have some special immunity, all of those threats are threats to you as well. They were threats to everyone.

If you can't understand that, then I don't know how else to say it.

Michael, the outrage that you're exhibiting is way over the top. I am not a liar, and your statements are indeed defamatory in the very real sense of the word. If you cannot control yourself, then I suggest you might want to give yourself a voluntary time out before you make things much worse.
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