Hangwind
Post Sun, Aug 20 2006, 07:56:36 pm
I couldn't have said it better Christian.
Jim Rooney
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Post Sun, Aug 20 2006, 09:11:38 pm
Here here Christain!
It's like dejavu all over again
Hangwind
Post Sun, Aug 20 2006, 07:56:36 pm
I couldn't have said it better Christian.
Jim Rooney
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Post Sun, Aug 20 2006, 09:11:38 pm
Here here Christain!
It's like dejavu all over again
Leadsled
Post Mon, Aug 21 2006, 05:53:14 amChristian Williams wrote:
You're just spitballing, S.C. Youve been out of touch a while and you really need to catch up.
You should read the Oz Report files on site insurance, personal liability insurance, the long debate over the USHGA name change, the exhaustive discussions about declining hang gliding numbers, the informative debates about the role of a national organization, the political value of ratings. You need to study the USHPA budget, which is available on the Web Site (sorry, you'll have to join).
Sound like homework?
Does this mean beauties with foreign accents driving beer-laden retrieve vehicles is out of the question?
marc
Tommy Thompson Sr.
Post Mon, Aug 21 2006, 09:58:36 am
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Christian Williams wrote:
You're just spitballing, S.C. Youve been out of touch a while and you really need to catch up.
You should read the Oz Report files on site insurance, personal liability insurance, the long debate over the USHGA name change, the exhaustive discussions about declining hang gliding numbers, the informative debates about the role of a national organization, the political value of ratings. You need to study the USHPA budget, which is available on the Web Site (sorry, you'll have to join).
Sound like homework?
Crap! guess that means no adds in people magazine either
Tommy Thompson Sr.
Post Tue, Aug 22 2006, 08:33:34 am
S C Wise
I like the idea of a new kind of Hang Gliding Org. and IMO it is needed, just not
for the reason I'm guessing you think(Damn PGers!). USHGA(as it is still printed on my checks)
has it's hands full dealing with training, insurance and FAA issues for both forms of
Free Flight(HG/PG). there are ways to help Hang Gliding other then the above issues.
I'm not sold on the lowering the cost as a reason for a new Org. either, because USHGA has
systems in place for low income pilots that can't aford or don't want the magazine
(just need to be able to fly at USHGA sites).
(IMO) whats needed is an Org. for pilots with the time, desire and money($40 a year)
to help Hang Gliding in new ways that USHGA can't(like Marc's idea, please!).
(IMO) like with an Instructor or Master pilot rating there comes responsiblities, maybe any
new Org. should also, like members must vote on all topics to keep their membership.
PS:I'll support USHGA/USHPA/call it what ever you want, as long as it keeps working on
Hang Gliding issues.
Even if you can give me a picture of Davis in a glider on a box of wheates, I'll still support USHGA.
(IMO)you should also(don't bite the hand that feeds you, or the new Org. that you can start).It's like dejavu all over again
I feel guilty also(finding new ways and topics to push an agenda), Sorry Jim!.
Tommy
Steveseibel
view from the outside
Post Thu, Aug 24 2006, 03:26:36 pm
This may be slightly off topic, I'm not saying that anyone wanting to join a new organization must necessarily believe X or Y about USHGA politics etc but...
I felt I was getting a view of how some of our HG/PG/USHGA/USHPA controversies must look to an outsider, when I picked up an AMA model airplane magazine the other day and this guy had written a letter about how he was tired of having to look at pictures of electric-powered airplanes in his magazine, why can't they have a separate magazine, he felt like someone was trying to convert him over, most of those new electric guys weren't even going to be members of the AMA organization anyway, etc...
Others pointed out that that's where all the new blood was coming into the sport, people appreciate not having to get their hands dirty and smelly etc and being able to fly wherever not just at a few official fields...
Food for thought in there somewhere...
PS those model airplane guys are mostly really old, for whatever that's worth.
Steve
JBBenson wrote:steveseibel wrote:PS those model airplane guys are mostly really old, for whatever that's worth.Steve
You mean, like, 40?
Steveseibel wrote:JBBenson wrote:steveseibel wrote:PS those model airplane guys are mostly really old, for whatever that's worth.Steve
You mean, like, 40?
I mean, the same issue featured a revolving walker so the guy could fly his control-line plane while sitting down and being pulled in circles by the plane and not get dizzy... more power to him, but..
Jacmac wrote:Steveseibel wrote:JBBenson wrote:steveseibel wrote:PS those model airplane guys are mostly really old, for whatever that's worth.Steve
You mean, like, 40?
I mean, the same issue featured a revolving walker so the guy could fly his control-line plane while sitting down and being pulled in circles by the plane and not get dizzy... more power to him, but..
A revolving walker? You've got to be joking!
Brian "The Capitalist Snake" McMahon
Look out for the force without form…
Tommy Thompson Sr. wrote:Jacmac wrote:A revolving walker? You've got to be joking!
Don't laugh too hard, even older Hang Gliding pilots will find a way to fly
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can't an Aero-tow dolly be used as revolving walker, or rider as above?
Tommy
Chris McKeon wrote:NEW HANG-GLIDING ORGANIZATION JOIN? Why should We.
Chris McKeon wrote:We should put our energy into reclaiming our own former site; USHGA.
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