I've been distracted, disterbed...
Excellent way to illustrate the point.
I'm interested in new ideas to promote TRUE FLIGHT...
If you're really interested in "true flight" you're probably gonna need an engine 'cause we don't "fly" any more than Flying Squirrels do. We GLIDE. They and we are always going down with respect to the air around us. The air stops going up, we start going down.
...as it was ment to be at the beginning of USHGA...
1. Our hang gliders are descendants of the Rogallo wing whose raison d'etre was that it be capable of being stowed, deployed, and controlled minus an airframe. Paragliders are more true to that origin than the jobs with the sticks in them are.
2. If modern paragliders were available in the days of Rogallo standards people would've jumped all over them 'cause their performance and safety margins kick standard a**.
The primary purposes of the Association are to engage in the development, study and use of hang gliders and the sport of hang gliding; to make available and disseminate knowledge about hang gliders and hang gliding; to promote the organization of meets and competition for the flying of hang gliders; to select pilots for national and international competition; to promote the training and rating of students interested in learning the art of hang gliding; and to promote safety and safe flying practices. As used in these Bylaws, the term "hang gliding" encompasses all fuel-less flight systems and aircraft capable of being launched by human power alone.
3. That's probably pretty close to how USHGA defined hang gliding at the beginning. If you wanna make distinctions then DEFINE the distinctions.
True, the high cost of CANOPY liability (due to the added danger of...
I'm guessing that hang gliders are more of a threat to parked Lamborghinis that are paragliders.
...attempted soaring flight under CANOPY)...
They don't just ATTEMPT soaring flight. The DO IT - and, under many conditions and circumstances, way more successfully than we do. Somebody goes over three hundred miles on a paraglider, I don't get to look at him with disdain and contempt.
...and the added cost of magazine space (50%?)...
Why would ANYONE want a magazine nowadays?
...could be reduced if CANOPY people would just join the U.S.PARACHUTE ASSOCIATION and be with thier own kind rather than attempting to dominate the SKY, EARTH, and SPACE.
1. They have WAY more in common with us that with people who jump out of planes.
2. There are a lot of people who aren't total scumbags who fly paragliders as well as hang gliders.
3. Every last one of us is attempting to dominate sky, earth, and space. That's why you don't see a whole lot of four to one gliders in the setup area nowadays.
terryJm - 2011/12/05
I still belive this forum is dedicated to buiding a new organization of HANG GLIDING PILOTS...
terryJm - 2011/12/01
Thanks to Sam for limiting Our forum to FLYERS.
Make up your mind, Terry. You want an organization of flyers or pilots? If you just wanna get lotsa people up in the air fast and don't really care how they come down I suggest you go with your original "thought" and stay with flyers.
I'm also very pleased that you plan to limit our discusion to COURTEOUS, reciprocall, incouraging, and informative, conversations among fellow FLYERS!
I'm REALLY glad to hear that, Bob!
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
You will ... hopefully. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Everyone has to do their part once in a while. If you see something that's not being done correctly, then it's your duty to speak out. One big difference between the US Hawks and other organizations is that the US Hawks really does honor the free speech of its members.
There was just NO FREAKIN' WAY a totally lunatic principle like THAT was ever gonna work out.
bobk - 2011/11/19
TadEareckson wrote:
Blah blah blah blah blah
1. So who gets to determine what's permissible "COURTEOUS, reciprocall, incouraging, and informative" speech? The "moderator", the president, a panel of chapter presidents, or a fifty-one percent majority of those paid-up members who bother responding to a poll (a la the Houston club)?
2. How long does one have to reciprocate by answering specific questions within a certain time before being banned?
3. Can one use the defense that the reason he didn't reciprocate was because the correspondent was on his ignore list?
4. What about someone incapable of organizing ten words into a sentence without butchering the spelling of twenty of them? Can he get off on a functional illiteracy plea?
5. What's a "fellow FLYER"? Is there a geographical range requirement? Time limit? How many hours a month does one hafta maintain? If someone chickens out because the wind's stronger than what he's comfortable with can he maintain his status by driving retrieval and/or buying the beer?
6. How much in the way of damage and/or injury is one allowed on a particular flight for it to qualify for currency?
7. Is it really such a great idea to require all posts to be incouraging AND informative? Aren't those two parameters fundamentally incompatible?
But most of all, capitalism only works when there is competition.
And it would be ABSOLUTELY INCONCEIVABLE to have two coexisting incompetent apathetic corrupt Regional Directors clubs whose members will only get their fat useless stupid asses into any kind of gear to come down on whistleblowers by any and all means possible. It's a well known fact that as long as there are TWO coal companies operating within any given country that miners will ALWAYS be treated with the utmost fairness and concern, their safety will ALWAYS come before any other consideration, and regulation and enforcement efforts will ONLY make things INDESCRIBABLY WORSE for all concerned.
Welcome to the US Hawks Terry. Now YOU'RE a part of the solution!!
Yeah Bob. Let's fine print and ban our way to freedom - one troublemaker at a time.
by terryJm » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:20 pm 
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