US Hawks Hang Gliding Association

Big tent thread..
Future of hang gliding included.
It's all tied together and most of it is documented.

Political correctness is the design of a scientific dictatorship.
A prison of the mind.

I have ideas for the future of hang gliding. I have concerns about the future of mankind.
One doesn't mean much without the other.

Here is a timely slice of where things are heading if people don't wake up: http://www.prisonplanet.com/global-warm ... niers.html

The enonomic collapse is also designed.
The banksters are not blundering buffoons.
Bevis wants to throw more money at them. Crazy.
This thing is all planned. I talked about it over ten years ago.

In hang gliding, David Glover wants to take money away from USHPA Foundation.
No explanation to his constituents..

What does David Glover know that we don't?

Ryan Voight, says "people suck" and we can all agree that many do. Ryan was specifically speaking of Blindrodie Gaar's response in discussion about platform towing proceedures at:
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.ph ... c&start=40

As that discussion is censored by lowest common denominator, Jack Axaopoulos,
it seems appropriate to explore the various aspects and expand on that discussion here.

Ryan made valid points on safe proceedure that fell on deaf ears of those that pretend to have more experience than they actually have. It's not a crime to be inexperienced but it is not good for the inexperienced to blow off constructive criticism from someone trying to help them because of ego or whatever.. Ryan's points were on target but he was frustrated by Gaar's resistance to constructive criticism.

What Ryan didn't know was that the person he was trying to communicate with was dishonest about his experience in the matter. Gaar was 'old heading' the more experienced pilot by deceptive statements and Ryan finally gave up.

Pilots in general are the losers in this game of egotism and deception.
Valid safety issues were blown off and a chance for others to learn were thwarted.

Maybe Jim Gaar could post that same GIF here so censored pilots can see it?

It would be nice if Ryan could also make his points without someone's ego getting in the way of other's safety.

From thread ...In hang gliding, David Glover wants to take money away from USHPA Foundation. -No explanation to his constituents.. -What does David Glover know that we don't?....
I contacted the USHPA, to affirm my documented Charter Membership in USHGA, the original organization from which USHPA "spawned"...I called Colorado & spoke with the Treasurer of the "club"... he informed me , without a blink that the organization had no interest in extending an Honorary permanent membership to "anyone"...He further told me I could get a one year membership for payment to the USHPA of the annual "fee"...I explained to him that I could share very interesting and valuable first hand memories in detail about the oranization from the inception & creative brains of others who shared breath with me there & then...He said the monthly magazine of the USHPA had "NO INTEREST" in interviewing me about any first hand knowledge I have on the subject of the origins of the early 70's Hang Glider Sport Movement.
Dismayed , I was set aback by his rudeness and was not interested in throwing any of my precious finances into a black hole which seemed to be controled by an insane idiot with power but abolutely NO Wisdom at all...
If there is anyone here who would be interested in so of the many "fact" based first hand "stories" that I can share about my participation in the birth of the Peninsula Hnag Glider Club or the Sothern California Hang Glider Association , or what has now evolved into the current USHPA...contact me -
Neil Larson ......I was there FROM DAY ONE ...
- attendee of the First Otto Meet in Newport along with Taras , Joe & Jack & Mark, SCHGA charter member #24 - first Historian by appointment to as an "officer" for the SCHGA. (member) Since October of 1971. Keep Flying , focus on the Horizon ...

FromDayOne wrote:From thread ...In hang gliding, David Glover wants to take money away from USHPA Foundation. -No explanation to his constituents.. -What does David Glover know that we don't?....
I contacted the USHPA, to affirm my documented Charter Membership in USHGA, the original organization from which USHPA "spawned"...I called Colorado & spoke with the Treasurer of the "club"... he informed me , without a blink that the organization had no interest in extending an Honorary permanent membership to "anyone"...He further told me I could get a one year membership for payment to the USHPA of the annual "fee"...I explained to him that I could share very interesting and valuable first hand memories in detail about the oranization from the inception & creative brains of others who shared breath with me there & then...He said the monthly magazine of the USHPA had "NO INTEREST" in interviewing me about any first hand knowledge I have on the subject of the origins of the early 70's Hang Glider Sport Movement.
Dismayed , I was set aback by his rudeness and was not interested in throwing any of my precious finances into a black hole which seemed to be controled by an insane idiot with power but abolutely NO Wisdom at all...
If there is anyone here who would be interested in so of the many "fact" based first hand "stories" that I can share about my participation in the birth of the Peninsula Hnag Glider Club or the Sothern California Hang Glider Association , or what has now evolved into the current USHPA...contact me -
Neil Larson ......I was there FROM DAY ONE ...
- attendee of the First Otto Meet in Newport along with Taras , Joe & Jack & Mark, SCHGA charter member #24 - first Historian by appointment to as an "officer" for the SCHGA. (member) Since October of 1971. Keep Flying , focus on the Horizon ...

Hello Neil,

It would be a great honor for the US Hawks to host any of your first hand stories about the early history of hang gliding. Please feel free to post them as you see fit. I am also considering a newsletter which could include those kinds of articles as well, and that might be another avenue for sharing your history with the world.

Also, thanks for posting to this forum. We don't have many readers at this time, but I'm hoping we can grow as more people contribute perspectives that aren't available (or have been banned) from the other forums. I am disappointed (but not surprised) by USHPA's unwillingness to honor your Charter Membership. They're a business now. They make business decisions. Please come and be part of the US Hawks. We're not a business, and we make our decisions based on our members ... and not our members' money.

Sincerely,
Bob Kuczewski

Sort of felt like commenting on various threads from the Bevis and Butthead (Oz and Org) forums but made the mistake of following music links at the org.. thanks Fred.. now I think I'll go to bed instead.

Edit: Clicked back to delete. Can't delete.
Definitely going to bed..

Hi Warren,

Sorry, I set up the forum to only allow about an hour to change / edit your posts. The history of what we say is important to me, and I don't like revisionist history. I can go back and make minor grammar changes if anyone would like that help, but I like the record to reflect what we said and when we said it. It turns out that the 1 hour change limit was established on HGAA and I supported it. But then they began changing the history of topics to suit them and that's what I protested.

I hope that helps explain my philosophy here. Please let me know your own thoughts.

Thanks,
Bob Kuczewski