[dhmartens]

Didn't USHPA list Bob K bad mouthing San Diego Police as a condition of his loss of insurance coverage?

[Bill Cummings]

The United States is an insurance company with vast military capabilities.
If you wish to exercise your birthright freedom of movement you need to have vehicle insurance. Once you agree to pay insurance you are then required to pay for, and insure, uninsured motorist.

Under current law you are required to pay for medical insurance otherwise pay a penalty tax.

Exercising freedom of movement over bodies of inland waters will necessitate the purchase of a watercraft license to avoid harassment by the authorities. Once assigned watercraft license numbers you are required to purchase either paint or adhesive numbers for each side of your watercraft.
With this purchase you will be charged a sales tax.

For anyone to say that this sales tax is not, “Tax on a Tax,” is laughable.

If you should get arrested while assembling in a protest to petition your government for redress, your VA disability, and Social Security benefits will be interrupted during your incarceration. You will be ground into poverty by the big stone wheel of the legal system. You will be persecuted until you become compliant.
For the status quo to persist it is necessary to make your dependence on your government mandatory.
Even if my house is paid in full and I don’t pay property tax the Sheriff Sale will dispose of my property. Private ownership is a fallacy but we accept this as status quo.
As a retired baby boomer I came to this realization too late in life. I have one option and that is, conform to requirements. I am subject to any abuse that may come my way. Just like the Borg dictum, “You will be assimilated. It is futile to resist.” (Here in the land of the free.)

[dhmartens]

This was in the April 18th Expulsion email from ushpa

...In an ongoing campaign to discredit and apparently displace the concessionaire at Torrey Pines, Mr. Kuczewski has appeared before the San Diego City Council over 60 times. USHPA doesn't question his right to do so as a citizen however USHPA believes the effects of numerous inaccurate, misleading and unsupported statements Mr. Kuczewski has made before the council puts the Torrey Pines flying site at-risk. Links to his testimony before the city council are available for review. USHPA's Board will consider, for example, whether claims of corruption within the city government made by a USHPA member are consistent with USHPA's purpose and interests, or whether they have the potential for putting a landmark flying site at-risk...

[Bob Kuczewski]

The United States is an insurance company with vast military capabilities.

We have allowed insurance requirements to trump the freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution. I predict that the 2nd amendment will be eventually undermined with a requirement for gun owners to hold liability insurance.

[Bob Kuczewski]

This was in the April 18th Expulsion email from ushpa

...In an ongoing campaign to discredit and apparently displace the concessionaire at Torrey Pines, Mr. Kuczewski has appeared before the San Diego City Council over 60 times. USHPA doesn't question his right to do so as a citizen however USHPA believes the effects of numerous inaccurate, misleading and unsupported statements Mr. Kuczewski has made before the council puts the Torrey Pines flying site at-risk. Links to his testimony before the city council are available for review. USHPA's Board will consider, for example, whether claims of corruption within the city government made by a USHPA member are consistent with USHPA's purpose and interests, or whether they have the potential for putting a landmark flying site at-risk...

It's funny how USHPA ended that little section by claiming that my actions putting a landmark flying site at risk. They completely ignore all the accidents and abuses that really put the site at risk. Instead of correcting the underlying problems, USHPA's solution was to try to silence the messenger. Which approach is endangering the site in the long run?

Here's what USHPA should have written:

In an ongoing campaign to bring fairness and safety to the Torrey Pines Gliderport, Mr. Kuczewski has appeared before the San Diego City Council over 60 times. At $15 per visit for parking (minimum), that's at least $900 of his own money that Mr. Kuczewski has spent to improve the conditions at Torrey Pines. That does not include his own time in preparation and attendance at these meetings. Mr. Kuczewski's commitment to fairness and safety at this world famous site is commendable, and USHPA will support Mr. Kuczewski and his efforts in all ways possible.

That's what the US Hawks would have done.

[SamKellner]

They, Jade-Helm, says we are hostiles in Texas. They are conducting ops here at this time. Somewhere? So far I've seen only one military style vehicle.

[dhmartens]

There are reports of a Russian Fleet operating off the coast of Texas.

Here in California we have seen v 22 Osprey squadrons flying over the Sylmar LZ on several occasions.
Here are some in Santa Monica June 15th

[wingspan33]

Speculation about Jade Helm reminds me of those individuals who've declared that the "Rapture" is at hand. Six months from now nothing will be different than six months back. Good people, bad people, good politicians, bad politicians, good generals, bad generals - in roughly equal percentages. Life will go on.

Human beings enjoy worrying and perceiving possible/potential threats because once upon a time real threats existed (200 years to 500 thousand years ago). Our neurochemistry is still set to be on the lookout for that local saber toothed tiger lurking silently in the brush. Our brains are often "happier" when we think there's a threat around the corner.

As far as National politics goes (or opinions/theories about US military exercises) well, this is a hang gliding forum web site. I would recommend that people find a forum site that focuses on Jade Helm if they want to discuss that topic.

On SG.org I'd say let's send this to the "Basement". Over on Oz, I'd say let's send it to the "Off Topic" section. Perhaps we need a place like those here on the US Hawks. ( ? ? ? )



PS - I live in New York State. Apparently, according to Jade Helm, we are a not included part of the good old US of A. I guess we must be doing something right!

[Frank Colver]

I agree Wingspan33!

FC

[Bob Kuczewski]

One of the prices of our own free speech is tolerance of the free speech of others.

On SG.org I'd say let's send this to the "Basement". Over on Oz, I'd say let's send it to the "Off Topic" section. Perhaps we need a place like those here on the US Hawks.

Scott, the reason you're not on "SG.org" or "Oz" is because you were kicked off for asserting your own freedom of speech that they didn't like. I have no plan to follow their example here ... although the temptation is sometimes very strong indeed.

If you don't like a particular topic, please don't click on it. If you feel a topic has no relationship to hang gliding at all, please flag it with the "Report" button and explain why you think it should be moved to the Free Speech Zone. If you want a subforum where you can exercise greater control over content please start a blog or a club. Those are all reasonable options that we make available for you here on the US Hawks if you want to use them.

Thanks.