[reluctantsparrow]

Yep, saw those "extensions" of Johns just a couple weeks ago....left a message for him to contact me. His handles are only good for smooth air.....he needs the forward portion that runs between the two downtubes to prevent twisting of the downtubes....John would be the perfect person to put the flybar into production and tweak it to its fullest capacity.

[ARP]

Reluctantsparrow,

The bars do not seem to have any lateral bracing so the twisting load on the down tubes could pose a problem. As you say, your version links the two extension arms reducing the possibility of overloading the down tubes. It would be interesting to hear more from John if he replies to your message.

[reluctantsparrow]

my third prototype is so strong and allows so much forward motion.....If Heiney wanted to he could attach to a predator and loop the damn thing in the suprone position.....I would love to see that done....I also feel my new bar is strong enough to hold a flat spin....I am getting a bit anxious for the snow to melt....

[Bob Kuczewski]

I just spoke to John to let him know about the discussion.

I mentioned the torque issue and he didn't think it was a problem. He felt the brackets would probably slip before doing any damage to the downtubes.

[ARP]

Bob,

That may be the case but then the resulting loss of control might also be a problem. Did he indicate when the video/film was shot?

[reluctantsparrow]

a short update on the third suprone bar design. also the potential increase in roll control from an altered basetube (don't worry, I did it up proper and re-installed an inside cable)...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKkSKDT ... e=youtu.be

[Bill Cummings]

When flying in smooth air (for the video) you should fly with your feet and pour a cub of coffee, make a sandwich, clip your nails, shave, light a pipe, read a book, launch paper airplanes, (bio-degradable), check your email and tweet your flight.

Figure out how to place the camera like you had it for this shooting.

[reluctantsparrow]

When flying in smooth air (for the video) you should fly with your feet and pour a cub of coffee, make a sandwich, clip your nails, shave, light a pipe, read a book, launch paper airplanes, (bio-degradable), check your email and tweet your flight.

Figure out how to place the camera like you had it for this shooting.

Excellent Idea Bill.....I think I will do just that.... I have already flown with my feet in smooth condition and all of the above is quite doable except lighting a pipe (probably too windy)....

[Bob Kuczewski]

Bob,

That may be the case but then the resulting loss of control might also be a problem.

That's a good point. I think you could still use the downtubes directly in that case. That defeats the purpose of the extensions ... but only in that (hopefully) rare case.

Did he indicate when the video/film was shot?

I'm sorry, I didn't ask. I get the impression it was recent.

[Bob Kuczewski]

all of the above is quite doable except lighting a pipe (probably too windy)....