Sign in, say "hi", ... and be welcomed.

Re: Recreation Risk Retention Group, Inc. (RRRG)

Postby eagle » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:48 pm

I'm Calling Total BS on the parties involved
Do you have Any idea of the Damages the
Out of Control Group has caused


From my last negligent Torrey Pines Gliderport crash
Does Anybody have an Extra $12,000 for My surgery tomorrow

~ They almost killed Me and joke about it ~

Tooth Hawk.jpg
Tooth Hawk.jpg (26.08 KiB) Viewed 8630 times
eagle
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 1061
Joined: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:58 pm

Re: Recreation Risk Retention Group, Inc. (RRRG)

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:53 pm

eagle wrote:~ They almost killed Me and joke about it ~


That sounds like the Torrey crowd I've come to know.
Join a National Hang Gliding Organization: US Hawks at ushawks.org
View my rating at: US Hang Gliding Rating System
Every human at every point in history has an opportunity to choose courage over cowardice. Look around and you will find that opportunity in your own time.
Bob Kuczewski
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 8396
Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:40 pm
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: Recreation Risk Retention Group, Inc. (RRRG)

Postby jimmyD » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:58 am

I just watched the video of the bikini snow bunny almost get clobbered by a hot doggin para G buzzing the crowd, and I think that type of reckless flying puts all of us at risk when you consider our RRG insurance situation. Just think about the what if- broken neck, or killed if they collided. That behavior, for the most part is discouraged that I have seen in hang gliding, but has that changed in recent years, or is it something tolerated in paragliding. Anyway, it should not be tolerated.
jimmyD
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 3
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:37 pm

Recreation Risk Racket Group, Inc. (RRRG)

Postby eagle » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:17 pm

Tell yourself, Its not so bad
~ Just shut up ~ Pay them and you get to fly ~


Smiley Hawk.jpg
Smiley Hawk.jpg (27.34 KiB) Viewed 8506 times
eagle
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 1061
Joined: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:58 pm

Re: Recreation Risk Retention Group, Inc. (RRRG)

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:05 pm

Nice choppers there, Smiley Hawk!!    :thumbup:


With regard to the RRRG, there's been a recent discussion about it on hanggliding.org:

SlopeSkimmer wrote:RRRG INSURANCE

Last year we at Big Air Hang Gliding paid 4700 dollars for insurance through the RRRG. In order to purchase this insurance, we also had to buy into the company with a stock purchase of 500 shares at 1 dollar per share. This year we decided to go with another insurance company and purchased a policy to start the day before the RRRG insurance policy ended. Not long after the RRRG policy ended we got the following letter from the RRRG. Does anyone know if this is legal?

Attachments
RRG_to_Jefferson.png
RRG_to_Jefferson.png (348.19 KiB) Viewed 8327 times



The topic continues with our own Joe Faust followed by the usual cast of USHPA insiders (Mark Forbes, Ryan Voight, etc.) and ends with this:

bickford frederick wrote:What year was it when USHGA let paraglider pilots join?

remmoore wrote:Now, now - be nice. We need to try to keep a good relationship with our PG brethren. It won't be long before we're begging them to let us stay in their organization.
RM

Yup, it won't be long at all.
Join a National Hang Gliding Organization: US Hawks at ushawks.org
View my rating at: US Hang Gliding Rating System
Every human at every point in history has an opportunity to choose courage over cowardice. Look around and you will find that opportunity in your own time.
Bob Kuczewski
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 8396
Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:40 pm
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: Recreation Risk Retention Group, Inc. (RRRG)

Postby Rick Masters » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:27 pm

Does anyone know if this is legal?

Mike, this bird's for you...
Image
We warned all you guys in great detail.
Here:     http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2203&hilit=RRG&sid=5f94c9648670aaaba433b5a7c4df4dcf&sid=5f94c9648670aaaba433b5a7c4df4dcf#p14950
Rick Masters
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 3260
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:11 am

Re: Recreation Risk Retention Group, Inc. (RRRG)

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:22 am

That's a very cute - and appropriate - song!

Aside from making a good point, it brightened my morning considerably. Thanks Rick!!!!    :thumbup:
Join a National Hang Gliding Organization: US Hawks at ushawks.org
View my rating at: US Hang Gliding Rating System
Every human at every point in history has an opportunity to choose courage over cowardice. Look around and you will find that opportunity in your own time.
Bob Kuczewski
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 8396
Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:40 pm
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: Recreation Risk Retention Group, Inc. (RRRG)

Postby Rick Masters » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:33 pm

In all seriousness, Mike should look at the bright side.
He escaped the liability all stock-bearing members of the RRG share.
For the cost of only $500, he gets total protection against any massive lawsuit or regulatory action that could destroy the RRG and leave its members liable for astronomical costs for many years to come.
A class action lawsuit based on the omission of certain facts that resulted in multiple deaths of participants, for instance.
That is cheap protection.
In the future, other members may wish they had followed Mike's example before it was too late.
Members need not worry about the RRG Directors getting caught up in any of it, though.
They're most likely covered by a reinsurance policy the members paid for.
(They might have forgotten to say anything about it.)

Mike's action also exposes a big hole in the RRG story.
He got insured with another company.
That flies in the face of everything the USHPA was telling their gullible members about the end of free flight.
Actually, free flight is probably going to be around for a while longer.
I'm not so sure about the USHPA, RRG and the Federation of Free Paragliding Flight.
Rick Masters
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 3260
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:11 am

Re: Recreation Risk Retention Group, Inc. (RRRG)

Postby Rick Masters » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:21 pm

Image
I am renaming the RRRG O'Para Care, also known as The Unaffordable Scare Act

That's not rain you feel. It's hang glider pilots opening their USHPA dues notice.
Rick Masters
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 3260
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:11 am

Re: Recreation Risk Retention Group, Inc. (RRRG)

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:25 am

Rick Masters wrote:I am renaming the RRRG O'Para Care, also known as The Unaffordable Scare Act

:srofl: :srofl: :srofl: :srofl: :srofl: :srofl: :srofl: :srofl: :srofl: :srofl:
Join a National Hang Gliding Organization: US Hawks at ushawks.org
View my rating at: US Hang Gliding Rating System
Every human at every point in history has an opportunity to choose courage over cowardice. Look around and you will find that opportunity in your own time.
Bob Kuczewski
User avatar
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 8396
Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:40 pm
Location: San Diego, CA

PreviousNext
Forum Statistics

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: JoeF and 63 guests

Options

Return to Hang Gliding General