[Free]

Care to serve on jury duty?  

The defense would surely 'strike' me for prejudice.
Maybe a witness for the prosecution?

[Bob Kuczewski]

Care to serve on jury duty?  

The defense would surely 'strike' me for prejudice.
Maybe a witness for the prosecution?

I think I could dig up enough evidence right here on this forum where you've been very critical of me. You even expected me to ban you at least once. But I never did. Remember?

Even though we've disagreed, Warren, I still value and respect your opinion. I hope the same will be true for Frank and Red and others. But that's up to them.

When I was in the Rangers we did sometimes have heated arguments and even a few physical fist fights (I was in a few myself). But we always put them aside when it was time to fight the bigger fight. We could depend on each other with our lives. We literally did.

Maybe that experience gives me a different perspective than some other people. We could punch each other in the nose, and an hour (or maybe two) later be working side by side like best friends. That's why as critcal as some have been of me, I'm still here trying to improve the sport side by side with each of you. I believe that's the kind of dedication it will take to overcome the Mark Forbes's and Jack Ax's who control the sport. Anyone who gets too easily offended isn't much help in that larger fight.

The Wall of Shame has been a mixed bag. It's gotten some people really mad, but I hope it's made some folks think about how their actions affect - and often hurt - other people.

[Bill Cummings]

It was the same in Vietnam Bob.
There was usually enmity between the blacks and
the whites in the rear areas (1970). Everyone wounded
in the jungle knew that they would be carried to
the Medivac chopper without any prejudice interference.

[Bob Kuczewski]

It was the same in Vietnam Bob.
There was usually enmity between the blacks and
the whites in the rear areas (1970). Everyone wounded
in the jungle knew that they would be carried to
the Medivac chopper without any prejudice interference.

I served in the Ford/Carter post-war era. Even though we were well-trained and well-tested, we knew that we hadn't faced the ultimate challenge. I remember trying to pretend that there were real bullets coming at me, but as I charged ahead I always knew they were either blanks or carefully aimed rounds safely above my head. There's no substitute for testing a man under real fire. We always treated the men with actual combat experience with reverence.

[Free]

I think I could dig up enough evidence right here on this forum where you've been very critical of me. You even expected me to ban you at least once. But I never did. Remember?

I've surely repressed an actual altercation that I might have expected to be banned but do have memory of skating on ice much thinner than it took to be banned at any of the doppelganger sites. Jack and Davis don't need a reason to ban other than they can't stand to be confronted on any issue. Censorship is a weak person's subterfuge.

Anyone who gets too easily offended isn't much help in that larger fight.

That's what I was thinking when the argument went to 'people might be turned off to some bitchin going on here'.

[Bob Kuczewski]

Anyone who gets too easily offended isn't much help in that larger fight.

That's what I was thinking when the argument went to 'people might be turned off to some bitchin going on here'.

You're right.

Some people might indeed be turned off. But those aren't the people who were going to step up and fix things anyway.

[Bob Kuczewski]

Everyone wounded
in the jungle knew that they would be carried to
the Medivac chopper without any prejudice interference.

That's what Joe should have been able to count on when he was posting about USHGRS on hanggliding.org. But there's been nothing but silence over there since that evil deed [of Jack banning Joe]. Most of Joe's "friends" seem satisfied to leave him wounded in the jungle while they carry on with "happy talk" about Frank's "Puffin". I call that shameful.

[Free]

Frank and Red likely have a pragmatic point of strategic value in not purposely burning their 'exclusive club' membership in the doppelgangers.
That's basically a one shot pistol. One bullet and you're done.
If you are going to pull that trigger you really need to make it count.
Frank has really put in an effort to help.
I don't think we should be so critical that he didn't choose to die on that hill.
He's in the enemy camp and he still has his bullet.
Joe is in rehab and the fight is not over.

[Bob Kuczewski]

Frank has really put in an effort to help.
I don't think we should be so critical that he didn't choose to die on that hill.
He's in the enemy camp and he still has his bullet.
Joe is in rehab and the fight is not over.

  I'd like to add some of that to my signature line, but it's already a bit crowded.

Only time will tell us what Frank or Red or Mike or any others will do with their bullets. If any of them surprise me, they'll get a big public apology from me. Public comment goes both ways and I've been way more willing to call people heroes than not.

But none of us are getting any younger, and time is not otherwise our friend.

[Free]

I'd like to add some of that to my signature line, but it's already a bit crowded.

I see what you did there and it makes me nervous. I don't know if it is good for either of us to highlight anything
scribbled by me.

But none of us are getting any younger, and time is not otherwise our friend.

Time has sure gotten away from me. I've been lucky to last this long.
Been in rehab a bit myself for last decade or so. In much better shape now
than before. Used to be such a cranky dude. Now I'm all about peace and love.
And puppies.
I think my recovery would have come along sooner if I had not been shut out of the therapeutic
value of hang glider flight within a 2 hour drive. There is where some bitterness still lies, the theft of that.