Post subject: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:45 pm
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Yesterday, the La Jolla Town Council sent this letter to San Diego City Councilmember Joe LaCava:
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From: La Jolla Town Council Date: Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 10:55 AM Subject: Torrey Pines Gliderport To: CouncilMember Joe LaCava
Dear Councilmember LaCava,
Attached please find a letter from the La Jolla Town Council (LJTC) regarding the Torrey Pines Gliderport (TPG). This issue, which has a long history in La Jolla, appears to be escalating. LJTC heard from residents who feel they are unable to use this park and the TPG. We invited the management of TPG to attend our meeting on several occasions; however, they declined. Upon review, one factor which may help clear up a significant number of issues is the TPG Advisory Board. LJTC voted during its April 2021 meeting that the reconvening of the TPG Advisory Board would provide solutions for the concerns of La Jolla residents. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Respectfully,
James P. Rudolph President La Jolla Town Council
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April 9, 2021 Councilmember Joe LaCava City of San Diego, District 1 202 C Street, 10th Floor-San Diego, CA 92101
Dear Councilmember LaCava,
La Jolla Town Council (LJTC) reviewed several issues happening at the Torrey Pines Gliderport that were brought to our attention by residents of La Jolla. During our March 11, 2021, meeting, we reviewed a presentation on the Gliderport, and the issue was sent to committee for further review.
On April 8, 2021, the committee reported its findings to LJTC, which unanimously supported that the City of San Diego reconvene the Torrey Pines Advisory Board, as there are multiple issues occurring that are relevant but outside the purview of LJTC. We are requesting a review of issues regarding public safety and the right-of-way of tandem users in the park, as well as training. With respect to training, there are other areas in San Diego which presumably are more appropriate.
We also are requesting that the City of San Diego consider whether solo flyer pilots should have to pay annual membership fees or costs of insurance to fly at the Gliderport.
LJTC thanks you for your attention to this issue.
Respectfully,
James P. Rudolph President La Jolla Town Council
Good job La Jolla Town Council!!
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Joe La Cava after saying that, “- - these are not the final thoughts, - “ Went on to say, “I don’t need any more input because I’ve been briefed and know what the problems are - -“ mentioned more than once about the Advisory Board being reconvened. Can he produce the start date of any Advisory Board? Did the City Auditor just this year start the revenue audit of the Glider Port? We are 6 months into this year. How much longer will the wait be? Joe wants the Glider Port to be safe, he said. Is Joe qualified to see to that or is he going to need more input. What will be his method of obtaining the expertise? I hope Joe can elaborate on the undisputed reason that the Advisory Board was shut down. It appears that the input Joe received was too brief.
Post subject: Re: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:21 am
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Thanks for your excellent comments Bill. As usual, you have done a great job finding the contradictions (doublespeak) coming from our politicians mouths.
When I wrote "... work in progress ..." above, I was planning to give an in-depth analysis of Joe LaCava's doublespeak, but a number of other distractions intervened (see the "SITE RECORD BROKEN!!!" topic ).
I also found several major problems with Joe LaCava's statements in this video:
"It is also well outside the capacity of the the City of San Diego to operate it"
But later (6:25 in the video) Joe LaCava states:
"The City will not reconvene the Advisory Board"
If the Torrey Pines City Park (Gliderport) is well outside the City's capacity to operate, then that's the perfect reason to form an Advisory Board. In fact, that's the primary reason to form an Advisory Board. You only need advice from experts when you don't have sufficient expertise yourself. Joe already admits that the City doesn't have the expertise, but then he turns around and flat out states that "The City will not reconvene the Advisory Board". That is a clear contradiction.
Joe gives the reason as:
"The City will not reconvene the Advisory Board because an Advisory Board does not intervene in between a private vendor and a lease holder and the Real Estate Assets.
That's like saying that the City will not reconvene the Advisory Board because an Advisory Board does not guarantee world peace. Where does it say that Advisory Boards can only exist to "intervene in between a private vendor and a lease holder and the Real Estate Assets"? That's a stupid statement. An Advisory Board exists to A-D-V-I-S-E. Period.
Joe goes on to say:
"An Advisory Board advises Park and Rec. There's no park there to really speak of. That's kind of where we're at."
First of all, where does it say that an Advisory Board can only advise Park and Rec? Advisory Boards advise the entire City and not just Park and Rec. Second, what does he mean that "There's no park there to really speak of"??? It's a flight park. People go there to have fun flying. It's called the "Torrey Pines City Park"!!!
At 3:11 in the video Joe LaCava states:
"They shut down the Advisory Board because that's the job of an Advisory Board was to create the plan and then oversee the construction.
Where in the world did Joe LaCava get that "job" description of the Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board?
Joe states:
"Where the City got tripped up is the City got sued ..."
That's the wrong perspective because it focuses on the City getting sued while completely ignoring WHY the City got sued. The City got sued because the City was not providing proper oversight of its vendor. That's why the settlement agreement - from that lawsuit - required the City to Establish a Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board (see references below).
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