Schedule Change Re: Wing5-M1 The trip to Dockweiler for Sept. 21, 2021, by Wing5-M1 has been canceled. I will not be traveling to Dockweiler as anticipated. Attention crew! Thank you. This notice gives crew a full week's notice of the change. ==================================================================== The Wing5-M1 project continues to move forward. Two pools (boxes unopened) were donated to St. Vincent de Paul Society. Hence, those pools will not be a source of spar bladders. Hook-and-Loop crafting continues to be learned. Six sets of 23-ft ribbon, adhesive backing, have arrived. ====================================================================
Others are invited to this discussion thread to advance 5-ft-or-less packed HG projects or ideas for such.
JoeF wrote: Others are invited to this discussion thread to advance 5-ft-or-less packed HG projects or ideas for such.
I continue to advance the donation of my Wills Wing Alpha ... and a hacksaw.
Bob Kuczewski wrote:Via text messaging to Joe on June 27th, 2021:
Bob wrote:Let's convert the Alpha to a 5' busable glider.
Bob wrote:We can start by disassembling it and figuring out what tubes to cut.
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Your continued great offer about the Alpha to the Movement is robustly noticed! Thanks, Bob! ================================================================ Not all Movement participants will be going after the same parameters. Here are some global parameters: Empty weight Assembly tools Assembly ease Materials Parts: COTS or custom machines? Launching airspeed Control system Pack volume Pack appearance Contraption quotient Expected life Public perception Ease of busing, hiking, carrying City-bus appearance, threat quotient Assembly and pack ease Carry-back ease Fun factors Joy factors Mass-production quotient Hiking ease Flight speed Novelty Inspectable quotient Sink rate Glide ratio Costs What technologies are used in the making? Tooling? Ease of experimentation on base platform? Making labor Safety Fitness for intended use Failure modes G load? Useful life? How long will it last? Maintenance attention Will plans be made available or not? Are duplicates expected? Carbon footprint Recyclability Part salvageability for next wing version?
Sept. 20, 2021, a note on the Wing5A project: Consider: (this is a flash ideation, barely filtered) A second case over the main spar case: * could hold inner CE in place * could receive CEs tied at any station for experiments * could receive the wear of the tension strappings * could be additive for protection from explosion of the inner spar case * could be of various colors, a billboard for drawings, a place for variable advertising * could be at 45 degrees to the inner main spar case * could keep the main spar case clean * could be washed * could change for experiments about itself * could hold the root of the upper sail and lower sail while leaving the inner main spar case dedicated to CEs and wing-tip rib-bowsprit
Wing5 note on making bladders DIY with 2-mil TPU, matte, ester, using an economy hinged-arm impulse bag sealer: it can be done. Detail steps will be posted in this topic thread at a later date. Bladders might be for main spar-case, keel case, strut cases, rib-strut cases, or rib cases. ===============================
A Wing5 (pack small and be politely busable) within each technology focus? A potential aim of the 5-ft-or-less HG movement could be to have examples that dominantly feature a certain technology. Someone might go gangbusters over the focus of artificial inflation pressure elements to achieve a wing. Another someone might go bananas over fine trusses made of carbon fiber. Someone in Maine might decide to make an all-bamboo HG that fits the 5-ft bill. A maker in New York might explore tensegrity for most of the frame elements of a Wing5. In Kansas there might be right now a Wing5 builder who has pre-stress coilables as the foundation for frame members of a Wing5 Some tinkerer in Alaska might decide to get splinted air beams for most of the frame parts. "Telescoping Tennessean" might be with a firm decision to use telescoping tubes to do the Wing5 job. TT Another, perhaps in Nevada, might say "angle elements, no tubes" for all the sticklike elements of a Wing5. Maybe in New Jersey one could find a Wing5 worker aiming to have a one-time deal: carry parts in tight pack; glue it rigid at site; fly; leave the wing full spread parked at the site; return home on the bus. An artist in Mississippi might find a way to rigidize and derigidize a special fabric via electrical impulse or UV light or the like: on then off at will? Fold the Wing5 up into small compact form; spread it out in the sun to rigidize to a memorized form; at night after sunset: it all softens for pack. Maybe in a corner of South Dakota one might find a specialist in kedering that saturates a Wing5 build with the keder technology. Or a doer in California might take an OEM hang glider and reformat all the elements of that glider to fit the Wing5 call. A visionary in Connecticut might decide to massively use hook-and-loop to put pieces together. Chemistry wizard in Wyoming might be cooking up a deal: Take a gallon or two of ChemX to site: zap ChemX to self-assemble to a HG; post flight session, melt down the wing to ChemX again for packing home. Repeatable? In Idaho we might one day find someone with a graphene craze where graphene is used throughout a Wing5. Perhaps in Oregon one will find a Wing5 shop making an unobtanium Wing5. Over in Michigan there may be someone right now deciding that "paper-only" is something to explore for a Wing 5. A builder in Florida might want to explore putting a frame to a portion of an old paraglider canopy and losing the cascade of bridle strings. Or maker in Arizona could make an entire Wing5 using almost only Mylar for all parts of a satisfactory Wing5 deal. Or someone from Nebraska might get excited about a Wing5 that is a biplane hang glider.
Etc. for each technology known. Describe one's current favorite!
But can you land safely? That's the important question. The video isn't clear whether the "landing" was followed by another "flight" ... or a trip to the hospital.
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Who is going to land? Sand? ??? ========================================== Consider a HG mod of 8-meter Naish S26 Wing-Surfer LE Wing 2022 ? Send in your experiments. The 8 meter stands for 8 square meters of area, not span. Stubby aspect ratio; about 80 sq ft. Fast. =================================== Not sure of the size for wing in video:
JoeF wrote:8-) Who is going to land? Sand? ??? ========================================== Consider a HG mod of 8-meter Naish S26 Wing-Surfer LE Wing 2022 ? Send in your experiments. The 8 meter stands for 8 square meters of area, not span. Stubby aspect ratio; about 80 sq ft. Fast. =================================== Not sure of the size for wing in video:
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For comparison, "Little Hawk" is about 65 square feet.
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Two pools (boxes unopened) were donated to St. Vincent de Paul Society. Hence, those pools will not be a source of spar bladders. 
Who is going to land? Sand? ??? 
