[JoeF]

Cool.
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Jeff:

[JoeF]

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Cleaning and reducing notes, I found a small-paper jotting shown.
And a 2009 tiny note showing:

[Chris McKeon]

I have a Question' How many of You Guys feel as I do that it would be great to be able to after having landed after Flying XC flight. Where You have landed not right next to the road because because of the fact that you have not have a Clear spot to land,. Or more directly to the Problem at Hand; You are not a GOOD PIOLOT. That later Point is the case with just about all My friends. My Friends while all of them are what I would call Good People. But on the other Hand as H-G Pilots they all pretty much suck. Like one day in the L-Z up at McClure California. I was talking to My Friend Ken Muccio. Well Ken was honest, Forth right, and Magnanimous when talking about Himself. I said to KM; Ken You are here Flying once again. Ken why is it that You Fly so Much? I mean as a Pilot You Truly do suck. Yet You Fly so often. Ken replied; "Big Guy I know that I suck as a Pilot, But I just love to Fly" We lost KM due to a Mid-Air a number of Years ago. I so Miss KM. A friend of Km and Mine Pamela said once that K-M visited Her in Her dreams. I just hope and Pray that K-M will visit Me in My Dreams.

So I need to eat My breakfast. Then I will get down on the floor and do my slow-controlled stretching movements. I will also get on My Bicycle today which is attached to an eccentric trainer. Pedal, Pedal, Pedal! I try to Pedal as I try to do My stretching work-Outs. I try to do the movements slowly and controlled. I have Toe-Clip Pedals. I try to push each pedal down, and pull each foot up and around. I remember back when I lifted weights. I used to lift a Lot of weight. I remember when I would Multiply the Weight by the numbers of Reps. I remember having been as much as 22 tons. When II would be going for a Maximum amount of weight on a movement. Such as Bench pressing. I if I could only press the weight for one Rep. If that was the case loading the Bar to that amount. If I truly could only do a rep once. Then in My Mind, I failed to demonstrate to Myself that I could handle that much weight. No I needed to be able to do at least two reps so that I could say to Myself, that I could lift X amount of weight. My all Time best Bench press session was just fifteen pounds short of a quarter Ton, I benched that amount of weight three Reps. kick My Self For not doing for doing a Quarter Ton Bench Press, if only one Rep. A Quarter Ton of weight used to be a lot ow weight.

[JoeF]

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"Wing4" will indicate a drive towards a final pack that is at most 4 feet in longest dimension. Aspect ratio of a pack would be neat at 4 also, but we will see the pack's aspect ratio after some maturity in use.
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Get "light" for Wing4 pack is a target of keen interest. To achieve a Dockweiler Dandy conservative wing at Wing4 may include what I am calling now "technical beams" where beam construction fits specific stresses. E.g., where a tip beam is needed for holding sail loads, such beam need not be strong in all directions, just in the direction of holding the sail. So, the beam may have focused tension-holding structure on outboard side and compression-holding on the inboard side. Consider low-mass rigid foams separating the tension member from the compression member, and shell case the affair in a thin shell of fiberglass-epoxy or carbon-fiber-epoxy.

[JoeF]

The tension tape in the drawing is to connect to the compression element's ends, at least. One may see such affair as a "splinted foam core" deal.
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[JoeF]

If main wing spar is splinted-inflated air beam, and if a sail is SS and set to spar case at each flight session assembly and at the aerodynamic stagnation point by way of ties, will it pay to bond a small stiffener so that ties won't tear the spar case? Exploring ....

[JoeF]

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[JoeF]

Sample pack categories? Weights and appearances of various hang glider solutions to the topic will vary.
5-ft by 1-ft by 1-ft
4-ft by 1-ft by 2-ft
4-ft by 1-ft by 1-ft
4-ft by 1-ft by 0.5-ft plus 2-ft by 0.5-ft by 0.5 ft
3-ft by 1-ft by 2-ft
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Satisfying packs will one day appear and we will know the dimensions.

How many offers of solutions to the topic's challenge will surface in the world by the end of 2022? 2023? 2024? 2025? 2026? 2027? 2028? 2029? 2030?
How many hang glider pilots will use solutions to the topic on buses and trains and long foot treks? t

This topic thread will probably report on solutions that fit. Solution makers and solution-using pilots are ever invited to report their adventures with their new wings.

[Chris McKeon]

Maybe I am all wet here? But is this post about giving the X-C Pilot the ability to be able to vary a set-up with Him or Her to be able to Pack-up there Glider and then because this Set-Up had a couple of wheels. Thus the Pilot would be able to cover some distance with the Glider.

I can see it now; I have put Myself in a position where I was in that dreaded predicament where You have to do that dreaded thing that we all loath a fear on an XC Flight. When You have to "LAND" a ways from a road. A set-up that would allow the Pilot to Move their glider easier by themselves this could be Cool.